Voltor Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just ran it a few times as it is the weekly. While a fun TF, there is way too much jumping from zone to zone along with repetitive missions: Start in Talos then immediately go to IP for the first two missions, then its back and forth between IP and Talos, with a quick stop in SC and Skyway Mission 1: defeat all Mission 2: defeat all Mission 3: defeat boss and guards +3 glowies talk to contact in SC Mission 4: defeat boss+ guards in Skyway Mission 5: defeat boss+guards usually in Talos Mission 6: street sweep in IP for 40 council Mission 7: back to Talos for defeat all + 3 glowies Mission 8: back to IP for defeat all + 3 glowies Mission 9: back to talos for defeat all + 4 glowies Mission 10: Defeat Vandal (AV) and guards Idea for a tune up with classic version going to Ouroborus After speaking to Citadel you go to IP as usual but you stay in IP for missions until after the street sweep for 40 council is complete. Missions 7 to 10 are in Talos Mission 1 is still defeat all but clearly labeled as such Mission 2 is the same as mission 1 and usually is even at the same door, remove this mission due to redundancy Mission 3: is still defeat boss+ guards talk to contact in SC, contact COULD be relocated to IP for efficiency Mission 4: changed from skyway to IP, is still boss + guards Mission 5: changed from Talos to IP and is still defeat boss+ guards Mission 6 street sweep for 40 council Remaining missions are in now in Talos Mission 7: defeat all + 3 glowies Mission 8: Defeat all + 3 glowies Mission 9: changed from defeat all + 4 glowies to defeat the boss which is still the EB called Bulwark + get 6 glowies Mission 10: defeat Vandal (AV) and guards A bit more streamlined, no more need to zone back and forth between Talos and IP and a redundant mission is removed. Yes Mission TP and Team TP make the zoning a bit quicker, but not everyone has those powers and they need some time to recharge. Also you can still use them while in the same zone as the next mission anyway. 1 1 1 25 alts with all the badges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Doing a TF revamp to still end up with 9 door missions (with 3 defeat alls) and a street hunt is a no vote from me. 1 2 A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltor Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Vanden said: Doing a TF revamp to still end up with 9 door missions (with 3 defeat alls) and a street hunt is a no vote from me. Open to further ideas on how to revamp it. 🙂 1 25 alts with all the badges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clave Dark 5 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Eh, we can speed run anything quickly enough as it is, it's not like any PUG or team isn't already loaded up with ATT and TTs by now. I'm not concerned about the unmitigated gall of them forcing us to change zones once in a while ha ha. But you're 100% about Mission 2, just drop it. Street sweeping and that Posi thing where you go "check in" on certain points around the map are also fairly pointless these days; I'd like to see them turned into something worthwhile than just dropped forever but I dunno just what yet. ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltor Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 Yes but not everyone has a top of the line PC or fast connection and thus has to suffer bad zoning times. TT and MT are great, yes. But they work just as well for jumping to a mission in the same zone as jumping to a new zone. Also, it just seems crazy to keep flipping from one zone to another and back to the previous zone and so on. having the first half up to the street sweep of council all in IP then the second half of missions in Talos would be a nice tune up. As to the street sweep....eh. It isn't a problem to get 40 council, but perhaps if were replaced with a new mission or just omitted and Citadel giving dialogue that the council are now hiding in Talos, that would work. Revised Idea for a tune up with classic version going to Ouroborus After speaking to Citadel you go to IP as usual but you stay in IP for missions until after the street sweep for 40 council is complete. Missions 7 to 10 are in Talos Mission 1 is still defeat all but clearly labeled as such Mission 2 is the same as mission 1 and usually is even at the same door, remove this mission due to redundancy Mission 3: is still defeat boss+ guards talk to contact in SC, contact SHOULD be relocated to IP for efficiency Mission 4: changed from skyway to IP, is still boss + guards Mission 5: changed from Talos to IP and is still defeat boss+ guards - remove. Same as mission 4 Mission 6 street sweep for 40 council - remove and change Citadel to saying he has intel that the Council bases are now in Talos. TF Missions now shift to only Talos Remaining missions are in now in Talos Mission 7: defeat all + 3 glowies Mission 8: Defeat all + 3 glowies - change to get glowies, defeat boss and smash open cell doors to liberate some captives that were forced to design the mech men. Note: you don't need to escort them out just smash the cell doors. Mission 9: changed from defeat all + 4 glowies to defeat the boss which is still the EB called Bulwark + get 6 glowies Mission 10: defeat Vandal (AV) and guards So mission 2 is removed, so is mission 5, Missions 8 and 9 are modified and the talkie contact in SC is brought to IP. Mission 6 also removed. Total of 3 missions removed, TF is streamlined to have the first half in IP and the rest in Talos. 1 25 alts with all the badges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZag Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Put Manticore in charge of the TF against council since he has a thing against them. Put Penelope as the clockwork task force because the clockwork king and Penelope have a dialogue going. Put Synapse on the Crey TF because he was experimented on by them and would like to dismantle the organization. That leaves Citadel with sending you to stop Clamor from blowing up the power plant. It seems like a very Citadel thing for him to do. Except give him back his original name, thats a very Bastion thing of him to do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, TheZag said: Put Manticore in charge of the TF against council since he has a thing against them. Put Penelope as the clockwork task force because the clockwork king and Penelope have a dialogue going. Put Synapse on the Crey TF because he was experimented on by them and would like to dismantle the organization. That leaves Citadel with sending you to stop Clamor from blowing up the power plant. It seems like a very Citadel thing for him to do. Except give him back his original name, thats a very Bastion thing of him to do. I think Manticore going after Crey makes the most sense, since he's the most Batman-y, Vigilante-type character, so he'd have the least problem with openly going against "legitimate" business. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPrime Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 2:28 AM, Voltor said: Open to further ideas on how to revamp it. 🙂 Dump the Defeat Alls or at least only have 1 per task force. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrauleinMental Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) On 8/8/2022 at 10:49 PM, Voltor said: Mission 2 is the same as mission 1 and usually is even at the same door, remove this mission due to redundancy That's the joke. The entry caption indicates it looks like just a fresh coat of paint, just like all Council bases look the same. 🙂 Seriously, though, if I can spend two hours on Synapse, an hour on Citadel (we did it in 61 minutes yesterday) doesn't concern me that much. We were more concerned with the missions in Talos being in those far NW/SW corners in a surprisingly-large zone. But not everything needs to be streamlined. Edited August 14, 2022 by FrauleinMental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biostem Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 8:06 AM, Voltor said: Yes but not everyone has a top of the line PC or fast connection and thus has to suffer bad zoning times. I'm all for revamping the TF, but if your PC or internet connection has an issue running an 18 year old game, even on low settings, then maybe address that 1st... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZag Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 What would be considered bad load times now? Back in the retail run, some of the worst load times i saw were around a minute. Mine were in the 20-30 second range i think. At this point, a potato with some wires sticking out should get reasonable loading times. I wouldnt mind some of the tedium being trimmed from the long task forces to put them into the 45-60 minute clear time range. Often i cant guarantee that i have 2 hours, so i dont join Dr. Q or Synapse and the few others that are very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 My current potato takes 30-60 seconds to zone. 2012 Dell laptop via Wifi. Though I'm all for less swapping between IP & Talos even if I had a fast connection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clave Dark 5 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 13 hours ago, TheZag said: At this point, a potato with some wires sticking out should get reasonable loading times. Amazing what they can do with GMO food by now! ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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