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Swordacool

Swordacool

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Hello fellow CoX'ers!

 

I've been going through the forums and been trying to piece together a decent build for a [grim] concept I had in mind.  I wanted to go with a back story of someone who was experimented on and survived a nuclear reactor gone bad scene (hence DM/Rad with one of the sets being Experimentation).  But alas, I couldn't find much for this pairing.  I ended up compiling various DM/x and x/Rad builds and playing with what I thought might be decent.

 

At first I included the Leviathan Mastery for the School of Sharks hold and Arctic Breath debuffs but I sacked that and *gasp* Hasten to pool the Fighting set.  I figure it's better to go defensive since Dark/Rad have some debuffs already..

 

Goals in mind:

1. Generous damage dealer

2. Take a hit or two

3. Be able to hold aggro

4. Would love to solo AV/GMs (as is everyone)

 

Some notes - never played a Tank/Brute, even back on live servers.  I've mained Scrappers though lately I've been running a Fire/Dark Controller.  I'm still getting a grasp on Incarnates as well - I get the general gist but I'm still not super savvy as to what works best on what types/builds.

 

Any thoughts/suggestions/guidance as to how I can really improve this build?  Money/merits aren't an issue at the moment as it's only in concept phase.

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Nuclear Imprint: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Experimentation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold
  • (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  • (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (7) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
  • (9) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
  • (9) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End

Level 2: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
  • (13) Power Transfer - EndMod

Level 4: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
  • (13) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (15) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 6: Proton Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (23) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance/Regeneration

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage
  • (25) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (27) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (27) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (29) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (31) Aegis - Resistance
  • (31) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 12: Taunt

  • (A) Accuracy IO

Level 14: Speed of Sound

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End
  • (31) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (46) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 18: Dark Consumption

  • (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
  • (19) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  • (23) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 20: Beta Decay

  • (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
  • (36) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
  • (37) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff

Level 22: Experimental Injection

  • (A) Healing IO

Level 24: Corrosive Vial

  • (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff
  • (36) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (37) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Armageddon - Damage
  • (39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (40) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy

Level 28: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (40) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (40) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance

Level 30: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (37) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (42) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
  • (43) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 35: Ground Zero

  • (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Obliteration - Damage
  • (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge

Level 38: Meltdown

  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (46) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
  • (48) Aegis - Resistance
  • (48) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 41: Kick

  • (A) Empty

Level 44: Tough

  • (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 47: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 49: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (50) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 1: Fury


Level 1: Brawl

 

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Meknomancer

Meknomancer

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First thing i did was turn off meltdown. Do that and look at your resists. Without hasten you won't get perma soul drain and thats a large dent in your dps. You could dump corrosive vial for adrenal booster, even with a couple of boosted adjusted targeting bits (recharge+to hit/recharge) it'd make a difference although its got a downtime even longer than meltdown it could fill in a bit when soul drain's down. I'm not convinced 6 slotting winter bits is the way to go, fire/cold def doesn't seem that necessary i'm pretty certain you can get much higher resists to it more easily. I do have 1 of these but it rarely/never gets played i find dm/bio/soul much more fun and easier to build but i did post the dm/rad somewhere on here when others were asking but it runs hasten. Seriously i'd find a way to fit it in purely for soul drain even if it means dumping manouvres which is making next to no difference anyway. Possibly something like this although the defence drops . the resist are up and with spiritual/agility in you'd have perma hasten/soul drain. Its a rush job using whatever build i had in mids theres gaping resist holes and i'm sure it can be done much better but its just an example of how to bump the recharge sufficiently to raise the dps (drop cross punch for shadow maul and i think its all your power picks

 

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

DM RAD: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Experimentation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Smite    
 (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (7) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (11) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (11) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End


Level 1:    Alpha Barrier    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 2:    Gamma Boost    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (13) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End


Level 4:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (5) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 6:    Touch of Fear    
 (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (19) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
 (19) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
 (21) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (21) Armageddon - Damage


Level 8:    Siphon Life    
 (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
 (23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
 (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
 (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (27) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
 (27) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing/Absorb


Level 10:    Proton Armor    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (29) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 12:    Fallout Shelter    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (36) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 14:    Toxic Dart    
 (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (15) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (15) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime


Level 16:    Radiation Therapy    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (17) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (23) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
 (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 18:    Speed of Sound    
 (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
 (31) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance


Level 20:    Beta Decay    
 (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 22:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
 (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (49) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)


Level 24:    Kick    
 (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge


Level 26:    Soul Drain    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (33) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 28:    Particle Shielding    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (37) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime


Level 30:    Tough    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
 (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 32:    Midnight Grasp    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (42) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (43) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 35:    Gloom    
 (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (36) Apocalypse - Damage
 (45) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
 (45) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy
 (45) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy


Level 38:    Cross Punch    
 (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
 (39) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
 (40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (46) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (50) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (50) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge


Level 41:    Ground Zero    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (46) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (47) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (47) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
 (48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage


Level 44:    Corrosive Vial    
 (A) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime
 (46) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (49) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime


Level 47:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (48) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
 (48) Reactive Defenses - Defense


Level 49:    Meltdown    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)


Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty


Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (3) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
 (5) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
 (40) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge


Level 50:    Agility Core Paragon    
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Swordacool

Swordacool

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Thank you for the critiquing!  Slotting for a Brute definitely not my strong suit but I do appreciate the feedback.  I guess my first question is that Soul Drain is pretty much the key to a DM build?  Or just key for a high DPS in general?  Asking to learn.

The 6 slotting for winter was to try and round out the defense but I understand what you mean.  I'll definitely play around with the build you provided (thank you!!).  There are a lot of interesting mixes for the enhancements.  Another question I have since I mostly have found people slotting for sets rather than individual boosts - does this kind of build benefit more from slotting for individual bonuses rather than the set bonuses?

 

I really appreciate you taking the time to look over this and provide some insights!  I was debating if Bio was better than Rad...ended up going with Rad since I've been trying to play with a TW/Bio Scrapper (which I've yet to play around with in Mids).  You rock!

Snarky

Snarky

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I have not run Rad armor but I have run a ton of Dark melee, usually with Invul.  They key is ..... Recharge and Accuracy.  Chase your recharge and accuracy bonuses and things start to tighten up.  

 

Here is the Dark Invul perma hasten build I use.

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Brute Mage: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (5) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus

Level 1: Resist Physical Damage

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Temp Invulnerability

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 4: Dull Pain

  • None:D-Sync Reconstruction

Level 6: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (15) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (17) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (17) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (19) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (19) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  • (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 10: Resist Elements

  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  • (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance

Level 12: Kick

  • (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 14: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (29) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 16: Unyielding

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 18: Dark Consumption

  • (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (36) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 20: Resist Energies

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (36) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (36) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (37) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (48) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 22: Weave

  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
  • (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 24: Mystic Flight

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (40) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (40) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (40) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (42) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End

Level 28: Invincibility

  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
  • (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (43) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (43) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 30: Arcane Bolt

  • (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage
  • (43) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 35: Tough Hide

  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
  • (46) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (48) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 38: Rune of Protection

  • (A) Resist Damage IO
  • (48) Resist Damage IO
  • (50) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (50) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 41: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Superior Conditioning

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 47: Physical Perfection

  • (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 49: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Fury 


Level 1: Brawl 

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Spaghetti Betty

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2 hours ago, Snarky said:

I have not run Rad armor

Slight thread hijack but never? I think you should try it. DM/Rad is a personal fave of mine. I run it as a proc-based Scrapper, but it's a combo that excels on any Scrap/Tank/Brute.

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Snarky

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4 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Slight thread hijack but never? I think you should try it. DM/Rad is a personal fave of mine. I run it as a proc-based Scrapper, but it's a combo that excels on any Scrap/Tank/Brute.

I need a Brute to break out of the ziggurat tomorrow night (they killed it but we play on anniversary).  I will do this thanks!

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Meknomancer

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@Swordacool this might help:

 

 

Its an old thread not updated builds for page 5 but you can re-order power picks as you like. Yes i find soul drain to be the base for my dm builds and yes it will bump you to max damage if you can find and keep mobs around you to drain off. This works really well with /rad as its not running a damage aura so they don't tend to evaporate as fast and you can just use them to keep the damage high and focus on single hard targets.

 

As to set slotting that all depends on the player. If you look at other builds on other AT's posted by various players you'll soon start to notice they slot in a particular way with specific goals in mind. For example @Hyperstrike builds tanks, irrelevant of the AT it will be built for maximum defence and resists. You'd be able to jump into the centre of a mob and survive and click attacks til they die. There won't be a single extra chance for damage or much recharge but you won't die. On the other hand @Nemu will build to maximise the primary and secondary in the opposite way with a very specific goal in mind, tons of recharge, tons of extra damage and just enough survivability (provided you know your primary+secondary extremely well and the enemies your facing, where to position yourself and which ones to take out first) to murder mobs at speed and look cool doing it...and not die. Build like a tank and you'll feel very safe have a 'clean' build (by clean i mean you'll have a ton of set bonuses, like 2 pages long, usually every power fully slotted) but you'll have 0 recharge in the build and do very little damage. Build a 'dirty' build (very few set bonuses but tons of extra recharge and extra chance to damage pieces) and you'll have a much higher dps toon. 

 

What you build will depend on your playstyle as we all play differently and enjoy the game in different ways. For the Dm/Rad you need to understand the primary and secondary and how the 2 mesh and decide which route you want to go. Do you want to max damage and recharge or do you want to max defence and resists. You won't get both with this combo.

 

Your a brute not a tank so i recommend getting enough recharge to keep soul drain up for the damage with just enough defence and resists to keep you standing and kill stuff before it kills you. Or make it a tank. Or go dm/bio.

 

I was going to post another old build but i won't bother, it had high resists but was so dull to play i respecced out of it. Make your own, take gloom and dark obliteration and have fun with it. Or roll it as a tank. Or make a dm/bio instead.

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Meknomancer

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Not sure this is one of mine ( I often copy builds and have them in mids for a later look ) but it looks ok despite having downtime on soul drain and hasten, good res+def to most stuff and most importantly its got gloom and dark oblit, not sure how you'd swap in ground zero and experimentation but maybe you can:

 

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

DM RAD SOUL: Level 49 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Smite    
 (A) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
 (48) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
 (49) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage


Level 1:    Alpha Barrier    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (7) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 2:    Shadow Maul    
 (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (11) Obliteration - Damage
 (11) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
 (13) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
 (13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge


Level 4:    Gamma Boost    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery


Level 6:    Proton Armor    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 8:    Siphon Life    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (17) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (19) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (19) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (21) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 10:    Fallout Shelter    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)


Level 12:    Super Speed    
 (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)


Level 14:    Taunt    
 (A) Perfect Zinger - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range


Level 16:    Radiation Therapy    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (23) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (25) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (25) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
 (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 18:    Dark Consumption    
 (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (29) Obliteration - Damage
 (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
 (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
 (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge


Level 20:    Beta Decay    
 (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 22:    Kick    
 (A) Empty


Level 24:    Tough    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
 (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 26:    Soul Drain    
 (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End
 (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (34) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (34) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (34) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (36) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 28:    Particle Shielding    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (36) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (36) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (37) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 30:    Weave    
 (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
 (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense


Level 32:    Midnight Grasp    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (40) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 35:    Touch of Fear    
 (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
 (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (43) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic)


Level 38:    Gloom    
 (A) Decimation - Chance of Build Up
 (46) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
 (46) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
 (47) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
 (47) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
 (48) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge


Level 41:    Dark Obliteration    
 (A) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage
 (43) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge/Endurance
 (43) Bombardment - Damage
 (45) Bombardment - Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance
 (45) Bombardment - Damage/Recharge
 (46) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge


Level 44:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (45) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 47:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (48) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)


Level 49:    Meltdown    
 (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty


Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance


Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod


Level 12:    Speed Phase    
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Swordacool

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9 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Slight thread hijack but never? I think you should try it. DM/Rad is a personal fave

Hijacking is totally fine as long as it leads to good discussion, insights, and laughs 🙂 At least for me anyway.  Would you be willing to share your build, Spaghetti?  Would love to get a feel for your build style (going to tie this to Mekno's comments in a few).

 

11 hours ago, Snarky said:

They key is ..... Recharge and Accuracy

I appreciate the post over all but this stuck out to me.  I went in with the mindset of "theme", "GM/AV", and "defense" but as I read/learn more, it sounds like going after Recharge should be the priority and everything else will follow.  I guess it makes more sense to wipe the floor fast rather than draw it out (which in my initial mindset was to go after GM/AVs as well).  I'll start to fine tune my thinking!

 

45 minutes ago, Meknomancer said:

Your a brute not a tank so i recommend getting enough recharge to keep soul drain up for the damage with just enough defence and resists to keep you standing and kill stuff before it kills you.

Digesting a lot of the post (still waiting on the coffee to kick in) but I'm picking up what you're putting down.  As you mention it, it is definitely clicking that I tend to see the same players posting their play styles over several posts.  But having it called out makes it click even better.  I appreciate it.

 

Putting toon building in the sense that (grossly summarizing) going "defensive" for long drawn fights v "DPS" wipe the floor clean makes a whole lot of sense.  I was trying to balance it the best I could in a maximized way but I as I look over the builds, definitely see how I let it get out of hand and I lost sight of things.  Thank you for the great perspective on this.  I think the line I quoted for you really hit for me - I should play more on the offensive side rather than the defensive side given it's the brute.  I'll have to look at the two folks you tagged and look over their builds.  Eventually I'd like to find the type of building style that is my style but maybe I'm naively optimistic.

 

Thank you all for the great insights!!  I really do appreciate it.

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Nemu

Nemu

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Following up on @Meknomancer's call out.

 

There are some build combinations that lend themselves better for building more aggressively than others and it's still important to understand even in those aggressive builds what is the key to your survival.

 

For Rad Armor it's Particle Shielding. Since it's a click power with a decent cool down, it means your survival is going to depend a bit on having good to high recharge. The absorb shield + Siphon life from dark melee will do a decent job of topping off your HP.

 

HIgh recharge has a lot of synergy with an aggressive proc monster builds and Rad armor is a great set for proc monster powers. Radiation therapy and ground zero can both do a lot of damage when filled with procs. If you really want to go nuts with more procs take arctic breath from Mako's patron pool. Having a good density of AoE attacks means you can alpha strike groups and kill fodder faster. And less stuff hitting you = less pressure to lean into your survival tools and that is the other half of the equation for survival against 90% of game content. If you played blasters you know that killing stuff before they kill you works.

 

Here is a stone/Rad scrapper build I posted a while ago that capitalizes on procs, recharge, and knockdown. I prefer power combinations with a few knockdown powers both for the recharge bonus and the mitigation the mechanic provides, but Dark Melee is a solid pick as well.

 

Here's my thought on arctic breath. However unlike banes, a procced Rad armor build will have enough AoE to alpha strike fodder, and since AB is a cone it does interfere with positioning all your other PBAoEs.
 

 

Unpopular opinion here I'm sure but I also debate the sequencing of unleashing my AoEs to open fights. Most folks probably gravitate to soul drain first then whatever else. But soul drains sucks up 4 seconds of cast time for mediocre damage. If you open with ground zero and then rad therapy you can do a whole lot more alpha damage in that time. And without a good saturation of mobs the soul drain buff is lackluster. Soul drain is not too proc monster friendly and most people will try to maximize the recharge slotting of it which to me means it's a placeholder for a set for those much needed global recharge bonuses.

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Meknomancer

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I'm wishing i'd made mine a scrapper/tanker both get access to better AT sets and even with the lower res cap the scrap has the option to take shadow meld from soul which can be a lifesaver.

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Spaghetti Betty

Spaghetti Betty

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8 hours ago, Swordacool said:

Hijacking is totally fine as long as it leads to good discussion, insights, and laughs 🙂 At least for me anyway.  Would you be willing to share your build, Spaghetti?  Would love to get a feel for your build style (going to tie this to Mekno's comments in a few).

Personally, I run an Overkill proc DM/Rad Scrap over a Brute for access to Moonbeam and Shadow Meld. My philosophy is "If it's dead, it can't kill me." This goes for everything up to +4 AVs. Seriously, only Diabolique and her stupid bubble have escaped my clutches!

 

I did my best to translate it to a Brute to stay on topic.

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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proc god reflavored: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (15) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (15) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End
  • (17) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
  • (36) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 4: Proton Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (21) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (21) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (23) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (40) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (42) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (19) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 12: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (19) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Super Jump

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  • (23) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (34) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (36) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (36) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 18: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20: Beta Decay

  • (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 22: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 24: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (33) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 28: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 30: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (46) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 35: Ground Zero

  • (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
  • (42) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (43) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (43) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
  • (43) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage

Level 38: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 41: Gloom

  • (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (48) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (50) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
  • (50) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 44: Darkest Night

  • (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
  • (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 47: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Meltdown

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Fury 


Level 1: Sprint

 

And here is the original Scrapper build for anyone interested:

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twisted samsara: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  • (23) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (34) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 4: Proton Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (21) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (7) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (7) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (9) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  • (40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (42) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (11) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 12: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Super Jump

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  • (17) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (17) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (19) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (21) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 18: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 20: Beta Decay

  • (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 22: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 24: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 28: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 30: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (42) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (43) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (43) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 35: Ground Zero

  • (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
  • (36) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (36) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (37) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
  • (37) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage

Level 38: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 41: Moonbeam

  • (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (46) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
  • (46) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 44: Shadow Meld

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Meltdown

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Critical Hit 


Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (5) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (5) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
  • (3) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
  • (3) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge
Level 14: Double Jump 

Level 49: Quick Form 
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
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Meknomancer

Meknomancer

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I just logged mine on for a bit, ran a +2 moony, got repeatedly hit, slowed, immob'd and had my - to hit floored so its back to mids for me. It needs more defence and slow resist and better to hit if it can't even handle a group of archons without panic clicking insps.

Spaghetti Betty

Spaghetti Betty

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17 minutes ago, Meknomancer said:

I just logged mine on for a bit, ran a +2 moony, got repeatedly hit, slowed, immob'd and had my - to hit floored so its back to mids for me. It needs more defence and slow resist and better to hit if it can't even handle a group of archons without panic clicking insps.

Slow resist is something I'm very particular about in every build I make. I hate being slowed. It's such a bummer. If a build I made has less than 80% slow resist, it has a good chance of getting scrapped completely and starting over, even to the detriment of other stats.

Edited by Spaghetti Betty
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Yomo Kimyata

Yomo Kimyata

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14 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

 

As to set slotting that all depends on the player. If you look at other builds on other AT's posted by various players you'll soon start to notice they slot in a particular way with specific goals in mind. For example @Hyperstrike builds tanks, irrelevant of the AT it will be built for maximum defence and resists. You'd be able to jump into the centre of a mob and survive and click attacks til they die. There won't be a single extra chance for damage or much recharge but you won't die. On the other hand @Nemu will build to maximise the primary and secondary in the opposite way with a very specific goal in mind, tons of recharge, tons of extra damage and just enough survivability (provided you know your primary+secondary extremely well and the enemies your facing, where to position yourself and which ones to take out first) to murder mobs at speed and look cool doing it...and not die. Build like a tank and you'll feel very safe have a 'clean' build (by clean i mean you'll have a ton of set bonuses, like 2 pages long, usually every power fully slotted) but you'll have 0 recharge in the build and do very little damage. Build a 'dirty' build (very few set bonuses but tons of extra recharge and extra chance to damage pieces) and you'll have a much higher dps toon. 

 

 

I am very impressed by this paragraph, so much so that I didn't want to let it go with just a "like".  Very wise.

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Zect

Zect

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This build ticks every major build sin on the list:

  • Missing key powers (hasten)
  • Missing key procs (GA +3 def but no steadfast +3 def? Shieldwall +5 res but no reactive defenses +3 scaling res? Make up your mind.)
  • Poor enhancement values (particle shielding, tough), illogical slottings (CJ is better slotted than Weave?)
  • Incoherent defense strategy (mix of typed & positional defense)
  • Low recharge (why is soul drain not permanent?)

Fortunately, I see people have posted lots of builds for you to copy, so you should be set. Make sure to pick one that has perma-souldrain or close to it, and well-slotted particle shielding (max absorb and rech, because tough enemies deplete the shield quickly, and IIRC the regen lasts for less duration than the recovery). Also, I'm not a fan of relying on meltdown to cap res, because it is not permanent. But that's my personal preference; you may differ, especially if you think you are willing to manage yet another power in the middle of combat.

 

I just want to point out one particular issue:

 

Quote

Power Pool: Experimentation

 

You took this, and from this pool you only took:

 

On 11/29/2022 at 8:54 AM, Swordacool said:

Level 22: Experimental Injection

  • (A) Healing IO

Level 24: Corrosive Vial

  • (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff
  • (36) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

 

I respect picking powers for the sakes of a concept, especially since it increases the challenge of making the build perform well. But I question if your concept involves ineffectually throwing test tubes at enemies and carrying around syringes you never use.

  • Experimental injection has an extremely short range, almost melee range. It is a lot harder to use than Aid Other from medicine. If you have a syringe fetish you may as well take the recovery booster P2W power which has a very dramatic animation, but on yourself.
  • Without acc your corrosive vial will hit nothing.

When you're taking powers for concept, think about what it is about the power that attracts you. Is it the animation? Is it a particular effect? Can that animation or effect be found elsewhere, for lower cost or for free? Can it be substituted with clever power customization, a temp power or prestige power, maybe a /cce or other emote? And if the decision is to take the power, make sure it's a power you'll actually want to use. Proc out corrosive vial! Make it something that inflicts more than mocking laughter from enemies. Because if you take it and you never use it, it ain't doing a whole lot for your concept is it?

 

P.S. Love to see some love for arctic breath. Cones are clunky on a melee AT, but this one is actually worth it.

Edited by Zect
Meknomancer

Meknomancer

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Ok my last attempt. There's no room for experimentation as far as i can tell. I often say to new players that every combo can be made to work on every AT. Just not this one. Dark Melee has no soft control other than the - to hit and thats mostly single target. You can toss avalanche/overwhelming procs into pbaoe's and hope they fire off but thats not reliable. Moonfire run reminded me that resist sets with no defence are about as useful as defence sets with no resists (unless your running SR) and that defence trumps resists in 90% + of game content. And accuracy matters...a lot. So i started from scratch gave up recharge/procs/resists. Cross punch makes up for a lot of DM's weaknesses provides a little soft control and bumps recharge. i don't know why i ever took it out the build in the first place. Still can't fit in ground zero/dark consumption/shadow maul and some of the slotting just looks wrong, but its just mids isn't it? In game should be a totally different matter *fingers crossed*

 

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DM RAD SOUL 2: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Smite    
 (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (3) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (3) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (5) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (5) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (7) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End


Level 1:    Alpha Barrier    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
 (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 2:    Gamma Boost    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (11) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End


Level 4:    Proton Armor    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 6:    Touch of Fear    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (19) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 8:    Siphon Life    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (25) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (25) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 10:    Fallout Shelter    
Hamidon Origin:Ribosome Exposure
 (27) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 12:    Boxing    
 (A) Empty


Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
 (27) Aegis - Resistance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge


Level 16:    Radiation Therapy    
 (A) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
 (31) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge


Level 18:    Cross Punch    
 (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
 (34) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
 (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (36) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge


Level 20:    Beta Decay    
Hamidon Origin:Enzyme Exposure
 (21) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 22:    Soul Drain    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (36) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 24:    Particle Shielding    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
 (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (40) Preventive Medicine - Heal


Level 26:    Midnight Grasp    
 (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (40) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
 (40) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
 (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
 (42) Hecatomb - Damage


Level 28:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (31) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
 (46) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)


Level 30:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (43) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 32:    Super Speed    
 (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)


Level 35:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (43) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
 (43) Reactive Defenses - Defense


Level 38:    Tactics    
Hamidon Origin:Cytoskeleton Exposure


Level 41:    Gloom    
 (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (45) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
 (46) Apocalypse - Damage


Level 44:    Meltdown    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)


Level 47:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense


Level 49:    Dark Obliteration    
 (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
 (49) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
 (50) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (50) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
 (50) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge


Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty


Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (49) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
 (13) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
 (48) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge


Level 32:    Speed Phase    
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Nemu

Nemu

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I went and chased my dreams of trowing sharkz and trowing up.

Presenting - Dark Rad Sharkman!

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Don't Proc Me Bro: Level 49 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (5) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 2: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self

Level 4: Proton Armor

  • (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Titanium Coating - Resistance

Level 6: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit
  • (7) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (15) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (21) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
  • (36) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage
  • (9) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (9) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (11) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (11) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 12: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (13) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (37) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 14: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (17) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (17) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  • (19) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  • (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (21) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance

Level 18: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (49) Reactive Defenses - Defense

Level 20: Tactics

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 22: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (23) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (23) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (25) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (25) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance

Level 24: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (34) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 26: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (27) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (29) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (29) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  • (36) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 28: Ground Zero

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (31) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (31) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
  • (31) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  • (33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 30: Beta Decay

  • (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 32: Kick

  • (A) Empty

Level 35: Tough

  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (40) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist

Level 38: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (43) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (46) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 41: School of Sharks

  • (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
  • (42) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (42) Gravitational Anchor - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (42) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
  • (43) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold

Level 44: Bile Spray

  • (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 47: Arctic Breath

  • (A) Analyze Weakness - Chance for +ToHit
  • (47) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (47) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage
  • (48) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (48) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
  • (48) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 49: Vengeance

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Fury


Level 1: Sprint

  

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Jezebel Delias

Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster

 

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23 hours ago, Nemu said:

Following up on @Meknomancer's call out.

 

There are some build combinations that lend themselves better for building more aggressively than others and it's still important to understand even in those aggressive builds what is the key to your survival.

 

For Rad Armor it's Particle Shielding. Since it's a click power with a decent cool down, it means your survival is going to depend a bit on having good to high recharge. The absorb shield + Siphon life from dark melee will do a decent job of topping off your HP.

 

HIgh recharge has a lot of synergy with an aggressive proc monster builds and Rad armor is a great set for proc monster powers. Radiation therapy and ground zero can both do a lot of damage when filled with procs. If you really want to go nuts with more procs take arctic breath from Mako's patron pool. Having a good density of AoE attacks means you can alpha strike groups and kill fodder faster. And less stuff hitting you = less pressure to lean into your survival tools and that is the other half of the equation for survival against 90% of game content. If you played blasters you know that killing stuff before they kill you works.

 

Here is a stone/Rad scrapper build I posted a while ago that capitalizes on procs, recharge, and knockdown. I prefer power combinations with a few knockdown powers both for the recharge bonus and the mitigation the mechanic provides, but Dark Melee is a solid pick as well.

 

Here's my thought on arctic breath. However unlike banes, a procced Rad armor build will have enough AoE to alpha strike fodder, and since AB is a cone it does interfere with positioning all your other PBAoEs.
 

 

Unpopular opinion here I'm sure but I also debate the sequencing of unleashing my AoEs to open fights. Most folks probably gravitate to soul drain first then whatever else. But soul drains sucks up 4 seconds of cast time for mediocre damage. If you open with ground zero and then rad therapy you can do a whole lot more alpha damage in that time. And without a good saturation of mobs the soul drain buff is lackluster. Soul drain is not too proc monster friendly and most people will try to maximize the recharge slotting of it which to me means it's a placeholder for a set for those much needed global recharge bonuses.

Interesting, in my mind, I was treating Particle Shielding like Dull Pain for a /Regen scrapper.  I rarely used it unless I was in an emergency.  But as I type, I'm realizing that they are two verrry different circumstances and I need to not associate the builds like that.

 

I did want to add Arctic Breath but I traded it for the Fighting set thinking defenses were better in the end.  I think the "Kill or be killed" mindset clicks here though in the sense that long, drawn out fights make survival seem less likely.  Very useful to keep in mind.  Especially if I want to go after AV/GMs.

 

15 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Personally, I run an Overkill proc DM/Rad Scrap over a Brute for access to Moonbeam and Shadow Meld. My philosophy is "If it's dead, it can't kill me." This goes for everything up to +4 AVs. Seriously, only Diabolique and her stupid bubble have escaped my clutches!

 

I did my best to translate it to a Brute to stay on topic.

 

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proc god reflavored: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (15) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (15) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End
  • (17) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
  • (36) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 4: Proton Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (21) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (21) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (23) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (40) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (42) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (19) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 12: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (19) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Super Jump

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  • (23) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (34) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (36) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (36) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 18: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (39) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20: Beta Decay

  • (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 22: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 24: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (33) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 28: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 30: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (45) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (46) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 35: Ground Zero

  • (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
  • (42) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (43) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (43) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
  • (43) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage

Level 38: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 41: Gloom

  • (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (48) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (50) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
  • (50) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 44: Darkest Night

  • (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
  • (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 47: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Meltdown

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Fury 


Level 1: Sprint

 

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twisted samsara: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  • (23) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (34) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 4: Proton Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (21) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (7) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (7) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (9) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  • (40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (42) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  • (11) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 12: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Super Jump

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  • (17) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (17) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (19) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (21) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 18: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 20: Beta Decay

  • (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 22: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 24: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 28: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 30: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (42) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (43) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (43) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 35: Ground Zero

  • (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
  • (36) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (36) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (37) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
  • (37) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage

Level 38: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 41: Moonbeam

  • (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (46) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
  • (46) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 44: Shadow Meld

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Meltdown

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Critical Hit 


Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (5) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (5) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
  • (3) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
  • (3) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge
Level 14: Double Jump 

Level 49: Quick Form 
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
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Ohhh this looks interesting.  Thank you for sharing!  I really appreciate it.  Was there any big changes between the ATs that you saw in rebuilding?

 

14 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

I just logged mine on for a bit, ran a +2 moony, got repeatedly hit, slowed, immob'd and had my - to hit floored so its back to mids for me. It needs more defence and slow resist and better to hit if it can't even handle a group of archons without panic clicking insps.

 

Yikes...I'm sorry for making you go through that kind of torture.. you can call me as many funny names as you'd like that for that.

 

8 hours ago, Zect said:

This build ticks every major build sin on the list:

  • Missing key powers (hasten)
  • Missing key procs (GA +3 def but no steadfast +3 def? Shieldwall +5 res but no reactive defenses +3 scaling res? Make up your mind.)
  • Poor enhancement values (particle shielding, tough), illogical slottings (CJ is better slotted than Weave?)
  • Incoherent defense strategy (mix of typed & positional defense)
  • Low recharge (why is soul drain not permanent?)

Fortunately, I see people have posted lots of builds for you to copy, so you should be set. Make sure to pick one that has perma-souldrain or close to it, and well-slotted particle shielding (max absorb and rech, because tough enemies deplete the shield quickly, and IIRC the regen lasts for less duration than the recovery). Also, I'm not a fan of relying on meltdown to cap res, because it is not permanent. But that's my personal preference; you may differ, especially if you think you are willing to manage yet another power in the middle of combat.

 

I just want to point out one particular issue:

 

 

You took this, and from this pool you only took:

 

 

I respect picking powers for the sakes of a concept, especially since it increases the challenge of making the build perform well. But I question if your concept involves ineffectually throwing test tubes at enemies and carrying around syringes you never use.

  • Experimental injection has an extremely short range, almost melee range. It is a lot harder to use than Aid Other from medicine. If you have a syringe fetish you may as well take the recovery booster P2W power which has a very dramatic animation, but on yourself.
  • Without acc your corrosive vial will hit nothing.

When you're taking powers for concept, think about what it is about the power that attracts you. Is it the animation? Is it a particular effect? Can that animation or effect be found elsewhere, for lower cost or for free? Can it be substituted with clever power customization, a temp power or prestige power, maybe a /cce or other emote? And if the decision is to take the power, make sure it's a power you'll actually want to use. Proc out corrosive vial! Make it something that inflicts more than mocking laughter from enemies. Because if you take it and you never use it, it ain't doing a whole lot for your concept is it?

 

P.S. Love to see some love for arctic breath. Cones are clunky on a melee AT, but this one is actually worth it.

Well if this is the worst sins I've created, I'll certainly take it..  But jokes aside, I wanted to see if I could go without Hasten.  Seeing all the feedback, definitely a big mistake on my end.  Not sure what you mean about Steadfast +3 Def or Shieldwall +3 Res.. They are both in the build unless you're implying they are on the wrong powers like you make in point 3 (thank you for the feedback on those).

 

Can you elaborate a bit more on point 4 regarding mixed and positional defense?  I feel like I've read that but didn't click so I tried to keep everything as broad values.

 

There's definitely speed in the Experimentation set too!  So I promise it doesn't break the pick 2 power requirement.  I've never seen the powerpool used (or used it myself) so I never realized how poor it is..  You do have an amazing point that that if I don't use the power, is it actually worth it.  Definitely something worth stetching the ole noggin' for.

 

 

All of this helps me understand what I am missing out on as well.  I knew I didn't know a whole lot and reading posts only gets me so far.  Having conversations like this helps folks grow so I do truly appreciate everyone's input 🙂

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8 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

Ok my last attempt. There's no room for experimentation as far as i can tell. I often say to new players that every combo can be made to work on every AT. Just not this one. Dark Melee has no soft control other than the - to hit and thats mostly single target. You can toss avalanche/overwhelming procs into pbaoe's and hope they fire off but thats not reliable. Moonfire run reminded me that resist sets with no defence are about as useful as defence sets with no resists (unless your running SR) and that defence trumps resists in 90% + of game content. And accuracy matters...a lot. So i started from scratch gave up recharge/procs/resists. Cross punch makes up for a lot of DM's weaknesses provides a little soft control and bumps recharge. i don't know why i ever took it out the build in the first place. Still can't fit in ground zero/dark consumption/shadow maul and some of the slotting just looks wrong, but its just mids isn't it? In game should be a totally different matter *fingers crossed*

 

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DM RAD SOUL 2: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Smite    
 (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (3) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (3) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (5) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (5) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (7) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End


Level 1:    Alpha Barrier    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
 (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 2:    Gamma Boost    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (11) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End


Level 4:    Proton Armor    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime


Level 6:    Touch of Fear    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (17) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (19) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 8:    Siphon Life    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (23) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (25) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (25) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 10:    Fallout Shelter    
Hamidon Origin:Ribosome Exposure
 (27) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 12:    Boxing    
 (A) Empty


Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
 (27) Aegis - Resistance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge


Level 16:    Radiation Therapy    
 (A) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
 (31) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
 (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge


Level 18:    Cross Punch    
 (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
 (34) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
 (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (36) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge


Level 20:    Beta Decay    
Hamidon Origin:Enzyme Exposure
 (21) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff


Level 22:    Soul Drain    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (36) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 24:    Particle Shielding    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
 (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (39) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (40) Preventive Medicine - Heal


Level 26:    Midnight Grasp    
 (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (40) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
 (40) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
 (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (42) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
 (42) Hecatomb - Damage


Level 28:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (31) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
 (46) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)


Level 30:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (43) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 32:    Super Speed    
 (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)


Level 35:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (43) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
 (43) Reactive Defenses - Defense


Level 38:    Tactics    
Hamidon Origin:Cytoskeleton Exposure


Level 41:    Gloom    
 (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (45) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
 (45) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
 (46) Apocalypse - Damage


Level 44:    Meltdown    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)


Level 47:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense


Level 49:    Dark Obliteration    
 (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
 (49) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
 (50) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (50) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
 (50) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge


Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty


Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (49) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
 (13) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
 (48) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge


Level 32:    Speed Phase    
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Sorry...should have added this in my last post..  I appreciate the attempt in trying to add in Experimentation but Zect has a decent point.  Even though the pool may seem good in concept, it does not good if it's never used...  That said I dig this a lot.  It seems pretty balanced although it looks like some of the powers are out of order.  I think some of the later powers were placed too earlier but nothing moving won't fix.  Hasten is almost permanent too without other procs going off it looks like... Definitely going to need to play with this and some of the other builds!

 

4 hours ago, Nemu said:

I went and chased my dreams of trowing sharkz and trowing up.

Presenting - Dark Rad Sharkman!

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
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Don't Proc Me Bro: Level 49 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (5) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus

Level 1: Alpha Barrier

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (39) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 2: Gamma Boost

  • (A) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self

Level 4: Proton Armor

  • (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Titanium Coating - Resistance

Level 6: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit
  • (7) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (15) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (21) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
  • (36) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage
  • (9) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  • (9) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (11) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (11) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End

Level 10: Fallout Shelter

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 12: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (13) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (37) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 14: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 16: Radiation Therapy

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (17) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (17) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  • (19) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  • (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (21) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance

Level 18: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (40) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (49) Reactive Defenses - Defense

Level 20: Tactics

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 22: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (23) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (23) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (25) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (25) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance

Level 24: Particle Shielding

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
  • (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (34) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 26: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (27) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (29) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (29) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  • (36) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 28: Ground Zero

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (31) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (31) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
  • (31) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  • (33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 30: Beta Decay

  • (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 32: Kick

  • (A) Empty

Level 35: Tough

  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (40) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist

Level 38: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (43) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (46) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 41: School of Sharks

  • (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
  • (42) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (42) Gravitational Anchor - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (42) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
  • (43) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold

Level 44: Bile Spray

  • (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 47: Arctic Breath

  • (A) Analyze Weakness - Chance for +ToHit
  • (47) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (47) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage
  • (48) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (48) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
  • (48) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 49: Vengeance

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Fury


Level 1: Sprint

 

  

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This build lets you be the shark you are destined to be.

 

Is Bile Spray a good power for this set?  I've never used it.  Considering the feedback from others too, how would it fit into the rotation of attacks?  Or is it just a set mule?

 

Thank you both again 🙂

Spaghetti Betty

Spaghetti Betty

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3 hours ago, Swordacool said:

Ohhh this looks interesting.  Thank you for sharing!  I really appreciate it.  Was there any big changes between the ATs that you saw in rebuilding?

Not too much that isn't readily apparent. The only changes I really made were the shuffling of some enhancements, and I made those while considering the pros and cons of Brute vs Scrapper.

 

For me, giving up Shadow Meld for Darkest Night is a hard trade, but it does present some new strategies. Having DN allows you the ability to make the mob come to you instead of having to aggressively engage, which is what I use Shadow Meld for. I consider Gloom and Moonbeam to be equal in value, one is just better for sustained DPS and the latter for burst.

 

Meltdown is also huge on a Brute for mitigation, at least in this case. Going from 70% RES to almost capped is good utility vs mostly being a DMG buff click on a scrapper. I would amount this to the Brute being able to stand up about 15 seconds longer than the Scrapper before going splat, which can make a difference in a hot situation.

 

But is that worth trading out the damage the Scrapper can give? For me, no, but I like the big orange numbers. Everybody is gangster until Midnight Grasp + Moonbeam does over 2k dmg with crits.

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Nemu

Nemu

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6 hours ago, Swordacool said:

Is Bile Spray a good power for this set?  I've never used it.  Considering the feedback from others too, how would it fit into the rotation of attacks?  Or is it just a set mule?

 

It's mostly just a mule for the purple sets. Proc heavy builds need recharge and accuracy due to the fact that you won't be slotting much of either in powers you want to proc. And proc heavy builds don't proc bomb every power. So you have to strategically set aside powers as mules for sets that gets you those bonuses.

 

You have to look at how all the pieces fit together. In chasing global recharge I have the option to take spirit shark instead of school of sharks or bile spray. but I opted for those two because both purple sets gives me +ACC bonuses where as apocalypse in spirit shark does not. And I need those Acc bonuses to make sure that powers like arctic breath and touch of fear have a better chance to connect.

 

Incidentally with those power picks you can have a pure ranged AoE volley if you want to be a hipster. It'll be almost as epic as a ranged hover blasting scrapper.

Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting

Jezebel Delias

Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster

 

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Meknomancer

Meknomancer

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Ok @Swordacool i edited the first build i posted with the experimentation pool in and it looks like it might actually work. I have 0 experience with corrosive vial so i don't know what slotting works best though. Theres plenty of slow res in it maybe too much which would let you pull 2 slots from toxic dart and toss them in either rad therapy (oblit and eradication procs) or corrosive vial (probably lady grey and achilles/shield breaker/posi/bombardment proc) Obviously some powers got dropped. Shadow maul i find useless on scraps/brutes its basically single target unlike the tank version on a power set that already has more than enough st attacks and lacks aoes. No room for taunt if i toss in hasten and leadership had to go. Resists went down but i found that it was possible to hit 45'ish s/l/melee defence which makes for a much smoother play. Recharge doesnt appear fantastic until you hit cross punch (essential for the force feedback) and then you'd probably find you have perma hasten/soul drain. Ground zero/dark consumption are interchangeable depending on which you'd prefer. You could drop gloom for whatever its just there for the 10% recharge and because i love it (take taunt for instance and toss the apoc bits into toxic dart) . Its not fantastic its just something to look at and fiddle with til you get the build you want.

 

The biggest thing i noticed after running the moonfire was that even if my to hit got floored by the vamps and all my attacks missed if i hit soul drain (which would miss everything) the gaussian proc would fire off and i'd then be able to punch stuff til the debuffs wore off so that piece alone made a huge difference.

 

Thanks to @Spaghetti Bettyand @Nemu for tossing in builds and ideas. Certainly gave me some thoughts about my own build.

 

Last thing i'll say on this is it makes a huge difference when other players chime in and post stuff but i'd advise against directly copying a build and then making it in game. Nobody plays the same way and i can tell you from experience (and having team up with @Nemu on torch+excel) that the builds players post will not work for you. I once copied someone elses and then tried it in game and it felt like a glass cannon and i got hammered after watching them tank and dps +4 mobs with ease. Everyone has their own way of playing the game and unlike other mmo's where you could just straight copy what someone else uses and make it work , you need to make your own builds that work for you in coh. So stick to your theme, keep experimentation as it fits the character idea you have in your head and you'll have alot more fun once you find the build you like and it works out for you. 

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Nemu

Nemu

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Psst @Meknomancer, the secret to success is to hide behind blasters.

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Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting

Jezebel Delias

Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster

 

I am the Inner Circle!

Snarky

Snarky

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2 hours ago, Nemu said:

Psst @Meknomancer, the secret to success is to hide behind blasters.

Behind every great Blaster is a Brute standing around looking confused about what is left to charge....

  • Haha 1

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