Can we get only enhancements we can use?

[angar 100]

Half my enhancements I get I can't use and while the cash is good I rather get only ones I can use.

Is this possible?

[arcane]

Considering you will only use SO’s for a tiny tiny fraction of the game, if at all, I would really recommend just getting comfortable with selling them.

[Luminara]

Already in the game.  Enemy groups have Origins and drop enhancements appropriate for their Origins.  If you want Natural enhancements, fight enemies like Council or Warriors.  If you want Magic enhancements, fight Circle of Thorns.  Et cetera.

[Starhammer]

This would be a nice addition to the S.T.A.R.T. vendor, in the same way you can purchase a restriction on what inspirations drop for you. That way, those who might find it useful could get it, while everyone else could keep things as they are.

[Rudra]

28 minutes ago, Starhammer said:

This would be a nice addition to the S.T.A.R.T. vendor, in the same way you can purchase a restriction on what inspirations drop for you. That way, those who might find it useful could get it, while everyone else could keep things as they are.

So you would like the ability to get no enhancements from specific factions? Because that is what it would be.

 

Edit: If that is what you want, then I won't stand in your way. However, you should keep in mind that the way things are now, when you are running around with others and fighting mobs that don't drop what you can use? At least you can still sell it to buy what you want.

 

Edited February 10 by Rudra

[biostem]

I can understand not liking your enh storage getting filled up all the time with stuff you can't or won't use, but it is kind of free money.  Now, that being said, at the same time, I can see wanting something like "Reject other-origin enhancements" as an optional feature...

[tidge]

13 hours ago, biostem said:

I can understand not liking your enh storage getting filled up all the time with stuff you can't or won't use, but it is kind of free money. 

 

This. Just vendor those enhancement drops. As a practical matter, unless a player is playing a somewhat peculiar corner of the game (e.g. low levels with a high spawn size and NoXP) the enhancement inventory shouldn't be filling up with DO/SO drops faster than they can be sold.

[JKCarrier]

Keep in mind that most Contacts will buy stuff off of you too, so you don't even have to go out of your way. When you're picking up a new mission, just take a moment to click on the "Store" option in the dialogue, and dump your crap right there. If you have a supergroup base, you can place a vendor there for added convenience.

[biostem]

2 minutes ago, JKCarrier said:

Keep in mind that most Contacts will buy stuff off of you too, so you don't even have to go out of your way. When you're picking up a new mission, just take a moment to click on the "Store" option in the dialogue, and dump your crap right there. If you have a supergroup base, you can place a vendor there for added convenience.

Heck, you can use the AH before entering a mission and either list them there or just store them until you have time to collect and sell them normally...

[Doc_Scorpion]

1 hour ago, biostem said:

Heck, you can use the AH before entering a mission and either list them there

Which also earns you badges...

[gameboy1234]

On 2/10/2025 at 8:44 AM, angar 100 said:

Half my enhancements I get I can't use and while the cash is good I rather get only ones I can use.

Is this possible?

 

Personally I agree wholeheartedly.  The money you get from selling your excess is pretty minor in the long run, there's far more money to be made by flipping crafted enhancements on the Auction House.

 

I'd like to see all Enh drops become "universal" so anyone can use them.  That way there's no problem with certain enemies dropping nothing.  Plus I'd like to see all dropped enh except acc, end redux, recharge, and interrupt become "power" as well.  Whatever a power does--damage, resist, defense, heal, etc. -- the "power" of it is enhanced.  The exact values here will require tweaking, but the current Enh game design is pretty tedious, there's way too much minutia involved in dealing with even the reduced number of Enh we get now.

 

[srmalloy]

4 hours ago, gameboy1234 said:

Plus I'd like to see all dropped enh except acc, end redux, recharge, and interrupt become "power" as well.  Whatever a power does--damage, resist, defense, heal, etc. -- the "power" of it is enhanced. 

That basic concept works fine for a power that has a single effect. However, for a power with multiple effects — like a hold or immobilize that does damage — enhancing "power" increases both effects; you no longer have to choose between increasing the effectiveness of the hold and doing more damage. Both effects improve in lockstep. This makes powers with multiple effects overpowered relative to powers that have only a single effect, and will require every single power in the game to be gone over for rebalancing. This will have the immediate effect of jerking over a significant fraction of the characters already built — for example, characters built around, doing more damage at the expense of control — and nerfing their damage output just to save you from the unspeakably horrible inconvenience of getting an enhancement drop you can't use.

[UltraAlt]

On 2/10/2025 at 11:44 AM, angar 100 said:

Half my enhancements I get I can't use and while the cash is good I rather get only ones I can use.

Is this possible?

 

If you are playing a hero character and you play the Origin arcs then you will be fighting enemies that will only drop enhancements that you can use.

[Rudra]

23 minutes ago, UltraAlt said:

On 2/10/2025 at 9:44 AM, angar 100 said:

Half my enhancements I get I can't use and while the cash is good I rather get only ones I can use.

Is this possible?

 

If you are playing a hero character and you play the Origin arcs then you will be fighting enemies that will only drop enhancements that you can use.

To add to this: It is easier if you do the missions from the contacts in city hall for your origin. No introduction required for the 1st contact in there, and that 1st contact will start the chain.

[Starhammer]

12 hours ago, gameboy1234 said:

 

Personally I agree wholeheartedly.  The money you get from selling your excess is pretty minor in the long run, there's far more money to be made by flipping crafted enhancements on the Auction House.

 

I'd like to see all Enh drops become "universal" so anyone can use them.  That way there's no problem with certain enemies dropping nothing.  Plus I'd like to see all dropped enh except acc, end redux, recharge, and interrupt become "power" as well.  Whatever a power does--damage, resist, defense, heal, etc. -- the "power" of it is enhanced.  The exact values here will require tweaking, but the current Enh game design is pretty tedious, there's way too much minutia involved in dealing with even the reduced number of Enh we get now.

 

The problem here is that it's not long before most characters are using IOs exclusively anyway. Before committing the development resources to altering dropped enhancements, we'd need them to be more useful than IOs. which of course would undermine the existence of IOs.

I think what I'd find most useful is a "setting" in START or with Null to automatically "sell" loot enhancements (convert directly to sale price inf upon receipt), and just never deal with them again from that point forward.

I suppose another direction, which might make origins feel relevant again, would be to make Origin-specific IOs with some themed bonus. That also seems more complicated than I want to think about now though.

[Doc_Scorpion]

4 hours ago, Starhammer said:

The problem here is that it's not long before most characters are using IOs exclusively anyway. Before committing the development resources to altering dropped enhancements, we'd need them to be more useful than IOs. which of course would undermine the existence of IOs.

No, we don't need them to be more useful than IOs.  We just need them to be a viable alternative to IOs.

And given their current costs and the speed of leveling...  The problem with SOs is as much economics as anything functional.  I've repeatedly seen people being urged to use IOs not because they're functionally better* but because they're cheaper.  And the same reason (expense) is sometimes given for not enhancing at all until you're in your twenties and thirties or even waiting until you respec into an endgame build.

* Other than not expiring, they're functionally worse until you're in your 20's.

[Starhammer]

19 hours ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

No, we don't need them to be more useful than IOs.  We just need them to be a viable alternative to IOs.

And given their current costs and the speed of leveling...  The problem with SOs is as much economics as anything functional.  I've repeatedly seen people being urged to use IOs not because they're functionally better* but because they're cheaper.  And the same reason (expense) is sometimes given for not enhancing at all until you're in your twenties and thirties or even waiting until you respec into an endgame build.

* Other than not expiring, they're functionally worse until you're in your 20's.

It's not just the expense of the enhancements themselves, but so little time is spent between 1-22, it's often pointless to do more than throw some DO acc in the attack powers before you reach worthwhile IO levels.

But yeah, I agree, something "alternative" is better than merely "better"