I was hoping for a Player Buff change. If enabled, it will be impossible to buff a player that's not on your team.

[Realitycheck]

Just give us the ability to disable ALL buffs from other players while not on their team. PLEASE!!!

[Skyhawke]

A self toggle, ala Null the Gull? Sure, it only affects you and on your terms. Imposed on everyone? Nope, keep your playstyle out of mine. 

[Akisan]

Until then, though, you can cancel any buffs that have been granted by right clicking on the status icon & hitting Cancel.  The only buff that I know of that this doesn't work on is Mystic Fortune, but that has its own option to auto-decline (either in options menu or at Null, can't remember offhand).

[mistagoat]

1 hour ago, Akisan said:

Until then, though, you can cancel any buffs that have been granted by right clicking on the status icon & hitting Cancel.  The only buff that I know of that this doesn't work on is Mystic Fortune, but that has its own option to auto-decline (either in options menu or at Null, can't remember offhand).

Yep, Mystic Fortune preferences are at Null. Don't forget to turn off group fly while you're there!

[DrRocket]

I find it difficult to believe that receiving buffs from well meaning players to be a bad thing, but be as it may, I would like to see the choice to be or not to be buffed be done in the option window where you can choose to be or not be teleported, why group fly is not there as well, simply bewilders me!

 

 

[Oubliette_Red]

2 hours ago, DrRocket said:

I find it difficult to believe that receiving buffs from well meaning players to be a bad thing, but be as it may, I would like to see the choice to be or not to be buffed be done in the option window where you can choose to be or not be teleported, why group fly is not there as well, simply bewilders me!

 

 

 

Some buffs and the colours players choose to give them can be... annoying/eye-searing/epileptic-enducing. Or they muck up the costume, because i spent 4 hours making it an I want to look at it dagnabbit! I can understand not wanting them on occasion, but at least there's the option to dismiss them.

[Ghost]

17 hours ago, Oubliette_Red said:

 

Some buffs and the colours players choose to give them can be... annoying/eye-searing/epileptic-enducing. Or they muck up the costume, because i spent 4 hours making it an I want to look at it dagnabbit! I can understand not wanting them on occasion, but at least there's the option to dismiss them.

But what if that costume you spent 4 hours to make, is dog ugly?  
Maybe the person buffing  you was trying to help you by hiding the embarrassment you created.

 

 

 

Edited February 17 by Ghost

[Oubliette_Red]

7 hours ago, Ghost said:

But what if that costume you spent 4 hours to make, is dog ugly?  
Maybe the person buffing  you was trying to help you by hiding the embarrassment you created.

 

 

 

 

NO! My costume is glorious and all should see!

 

[Akisan]

22 hours ago, Oubliette_Red said:

NO! My costume is glorious and all should see!

 

It's very good, but I feel like it's missing something...   Neon orange sparkles maybe?

 

On 2/17/2025 at 7:12 AM, Ghost said:

But what if that costume you spent 4 hours to make, is dog ugly?  
Maybe the person buffing  you was trying to help you by hiding the embarrassment you created.

 

I thought that's what Granite Armor was for.

[srmalloy]

Making it impossible to buff someone not on your team (instead of, as suggested above, having a 'reject outside buffs' flag from Null or elsewhere) would prevent one of the community-positive acts you see (albeit a specialized case) — standing at the top of the toboggan run in the ski chalet area hitting people with Speed Boost and Inertial Reduction to help them get the gold badge for the run. I'm sure that there are other examples — and since things like XP and Vmerits in leagues are team-specific, I wonder if making it impossible to buff someone not on your team would affect buffing/healing members of other teams in, say, a BAF, Lambda, or other incarnate trial. That would significantly jerk over league-based activities — entering the mission randomizes the teams, so if you wound up on a team with no heals, you could be significantly hampered compared to other teams.

[Realitycheck]

While using my dps tool and making various build calculations. UNWANTED buffs fudge up those numbers. Some times I have to start over. Kind of sucks. I did mention that folks would have the OPTION to tun off all buffs from other players while not on a team. Its not a tall ask really. It seems to be harder to get other players to just simply control themselves. Has anyone bothered to ask themselves why that is? I have to actually hide in base to lvl my toon because of your nut job buff whore running around. Yes yes folks can right click and dismiss them but that isn't a problem I should be FORCED to deal with. The problem lies with my fellow players lack of respect for the wishes of those trying to crunch numbers. STOP BUFFING MY TOON. I know I know its a BIG FREAKING ASK. Self control being what it is and all. So if I were able to just disable all player buffs, problem solved for everyone. Even you emotionally fucked up folks who just cant stop can benefit. SEE ya. 

[BasiliskXVIII]

4 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

While using my dps tool and making various build calculations. UNWANTED buffs fudge up those numbers. Some times I have to start over. Kind of sucks. I did mention that folks would have the OPTION to tun off all buffs from other players while not on a team.

You also said, in the big title there at the top, that you wanted is made so that players couldn't buff a player not on their team, so there's more than a little understandable confusion.

 

4 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

Yes yes folks can right click and dismiss them but that isn't a problem I should be FORCED to deal with. The problem lies with my fellow players lack of respect for the wishes of those trying to crunch numbers. STOP BUFFING MY TOON. I know I know its a BIG FREAKING ASK. Self control being what it is and all. So if I were able to just disable all player buffs, problem solved for everyone. Even you emotionally fucked up folks who just cant stop can benefit. SEE ya.

Wow... There is a hell of a lot of vitriol there for something that the majority of players consider a nice gesture of assistance to others. For one: No, it often isn't possible to not buff you and buff the person next to you if you're in a crowded area. Almost all buffs are AoE now. Second, with the exception of the original Sonic buff graphics and SB, people tend to overwhelmingly appreciate buffs.

 

If you're driven this far into apoplexy by someone trying to help, there's plenty of low pop servers you can go to where you generally don't even need to worry about running into anyone.

[biostem]

This isn't a single player game.  If another player is using their buffs to harass you or others, then they can report them for that.  If you are hanging out in an area where there's a lot of people coming and going, and/or people using buffs is to be expected, then I'm sorry, but that's part of the game.  Again, if people have set their AoE buffs to autofire in a crowded area, especially ones that are safe, (a la Pocket D), then I could see a case being made that such behavior constitutes trolling or harassment, but again, complete immunity?  Nah - you can cancel buffs on you that you don't like, and those firing such buffs off in safe areas could/should be treated as breaking the ToS/CoC.

[srmalloy]

9 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

While using my dps tool and making various build calculations. UNWANTED buffs fudge up those numbers. ... I have to actually hide in base to lvl my toon because of your nut job buff whore running around.

Another place you can go is the "quiet room" in any of the AE facilities, where powers are disabled, so no one can buff you at all.

[Rudra]

5 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

9 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

While using my dps tool and making various build calculations. UNWANTED buffs fudge up those numbers. ... I have to actually hide in base to lvl my toon because of your nut job buff whore running around.

Another place you can go is the "quiet room" in any of the AE facilities, where powers are disabled, so no one can buff you at all.

To add to this: if the character can fly, then just fly above normal viewing height. Even low level fliers just AFK'ing tend to get missed by drive-by buffers.

[Realitycheck]

If I am running to a mish and I am using my DPS tool and someone runs up and hits me with bubbles or sb or a huge number of other buffs then I would like this buff to ignored automatically. One would expect to be buffed on a team and or baf etc. To stand in an area where multiple buffing is going on say near some event, mish entrance etc. Then my request would obviously be unreasonable. But folks can resist the urge to buff just anyone. It is possible. To just say fuck it and tuff shit ill buff whomever I please, is a lean towards the abuse side of things yes?

 

So for me to be able to disable random buffs isn't a big ask. One of my close frens that I team with used to write code for this game and he said it wouldn't be hard to implement. So by the click of a button, any buffs out side an 8 man regular team would have no effect on my toon. Where's the harm in that? I ask people all the time to not buff my toon so I can crunch numbers but (sigh) they do it anyway. Then laugh and wonder why I'm pissed. So Players could have better self control too right? LOL Yeah that's a stretch. 

Ohh for you emotionally messed up folks, yes I ask politely. 

 

AOE buffs can easily be avoided by me because I usually see them coming and can hide. No shit seriously I hide. Fuckers cant control themselves so I beat it. Anyway my point has been made even if some of you are to stupid to realize it. Ty. 

[Rudra]

8 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

If I am running to a mish and I am using my DPS tool and someone runs up and hits me with bubbles or sb or a huge number of other buffs then I would like this buff to ignored automatically. One would expect to be buffed on a team and or baf etc. To stand in an area where multiple buffing is going on say near some event, mish entrance etc. Then my request would obviously be unreasonable. But folks can resist the urge to buff just anyone. It is possible. To just say fuck it and tuff shit ill buff whomever I please, is a lean towards the abuse side of things yes?

 

So for me to be able to disable random buffs isn't a big ask. One of my close frens that I team with used to write code for this game and he said it wouldn't be hard to implement. So by the click of a button, any buffs out side an 8 man regular team would have no effect on my toon. Where's the harm in that? I ask people all the time to not buff my toon so I can crunch numbers but (sigh) they do it anyway. Then laugh and wonder why I'm pissed. So Players could have better self control too right? LOL Yeah that's a stretch. 

Ohh for you emotionally messed up folks, yes I ask politely. 

 

AOE buffs can easily be avoided by me because I usually see them coming and can hide. No shit seriously I hide. Fuckers cant control themselves so I beat it. Anyway my point has been made even if some of you are to stupid to realize it. Ty. 

You know, as someone who also has a visceral reaction to a game mechanic, in my case it being patrol xp, I get where you are coming from. However, I feel the need to point out that calling others on the forums stupid for having a different point of view or trying to provide you with alternate means of dealing with your problem is not conducive to a positive reception. I haven't seen anyone actually opposed to your proposal beyond the concerns of how it would affect leagues and events. Even when a poster simply said "Until then, though, you can...", which was not a dismissal of your suggestion but the presentation of an available work around until such time as your requested proposal may be implemented, you responded negatively. The only post that was possibly negative also stated that the requested ability was fine but would prefer it be made available to players more directly. So my recommendation to you is to take moment and breathe. And not be so hostile to your fellow players on the forums.

[arcane]

9 hours ago, biostem said:

those firing such buffs off in safe areas could/should be treated as breaking the ToS/CoC.

seems a little extreme 

[Ghost]

12 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

If I am running to a mish and I am using my DPS tool and someone runs up and hits me with bubbles or sb or a huge number of other buffs then I would like this buff to ignored automatically. One would expect to be buffed on a team and or baf etc. To stand in an area where multiple buffing is going on say near some event, mish entrance etc. Then my request would obviously be unreasonable. But folks can resist the urge to buff just anyone. It is possible. To just say fuck it and tuff shit ill buff whomever I please, is a lean towards the abuse side of things yes?

 

So for me to be able to disable random buffs isn't a big ask. One of my close frens that I team with used to write code for this game and he said it wouldn't be hard to implement. So by the click of a button, any buffs out side an 8 man regular team would have no effect on my toon. Where's the harm in that? I ask people all the time to not buff my toon so I can crunch numbers but (sigh) they do it anyway. Then laugh and wonder why I'm pissed. So Players could have better self control too right? LOL Yeah that's a stretch. 

Ohh for you emotionally messed up folks, yes I ask politely. 

 

AOE buffs can easily be avoided by me because I usually see them coming and can hide. No shit seriously I hide. Fuckers cant control themselves so I beat it. Anyway my point has been made even if some of you are to stupid to realize it. Ty. 

What’s your alts name?

 

Asking for a friend 

😈😈😈

[Realitycheck]

18 hours ago, BasiliskXVIII said:

You also said, in the big title there at the top, that you wanted is made so that players couldn't buff a player not on their team, so there's more than a little understandable confusion.

 

Wow... There is a hell of a lot of vitriol there for something that the majority of players consider a nice gesture of assistance to others. For one: No, it often isn't possible to not buff you and buff the person next to you if you're in a crowded area. Almost all buffs are AoE now. Second, with the exception of the original Sonic buff graphics and SB, people tend to overwhelmingly appreciate buffs.

 

If you're driven this far into apoplexy by someone trying to help, there's plenty of low pop servers you can go to where you generally don't even need to worry about running into anyone.

I was hoping for a Player Buff change. If enabled, it will be impossible to buff a player that's not on your team. Do you see the word ENABLED? Meaning it can be disabled. By the player in both cases. I didnt think I had to explain something so simple. I guess I was wrong. lol

[Realitycheck]

8 minutes ago, Ghost said:

What’s your alts name?

 

Asking for a friend 

😈😈😈

Which alt? I have like a 100. Some folks seem to miss the part about "MY DPS TOOL". While crunching numbers ALL buffs fuck up the tools number rotation. So to have a fellow player realize I am only asking not to be buffed because I don't wish my numbers to be screwed up. So having the option to opt in and or out of non teaming buffs is a no brainer. Teams as in normal 8 man teams. Folks on here feel the need to nick pick lol. 

[Realitycheck]

13 hours ago, Rudra said:

You know, as someone who also has a visceral reaction to a game mechanic, in my case it being patrol xp, I get where you are coming from. However, I feel the need to point out that calling others on the forums stupid for having a different point of view or trying to provide you with alternate means of dealing with your problem is not conducive to a positive reception. I haven't seen anyone actually opposed to your proposal beyond the concerns of how it would affect leagues and events. Even when a poster simply said "Until then, though, you can...", which was not a dismissal of your suggestion but the presentation of an available work around until such time as your requested proposal may be implemented, you responded negatively. The only post that was possibly negative also stated that the requested ability was fine but would prefer it be made available to players more directly. So my recommendation to you is to take moment and breathe. And not be so hostile to your fellow players on the forums.

Look. I get your point. I'll be the better and not resort to any more acknowledgements to the lack of intelligence in some folks. Happy? But in game, could you ask our fellows to have a bit more SELF CONTROL? I've said before, it seems like a really big ask. Another point is that when I use the term "DPS TOOL" folks on this forum pass it right on by as if I have no REAL reason for such a request for this in game option. So hence, my frustration of those who make fun of myself. My fee fees aren't hurt or anything. Its just those who do that kind of thing I believe, are a bit the gormless for being so immature. But again, I will try and refrain from calling the deserving out ok? Good day. 

[Realitycheck]

9 hours ago, arcane said:

seems a little extreme 

I have to use my buddies base to lvl up because every time I stop at MS liberty or some other, I get inundated with buffs. Name the buff and i get hit with it lol. Its stupid bad lol. 

[Realitycheck]

On 2/16/2025 at 1:22 PM, DrRocket said:

I find it difficult to believe that receiving buffs from well meaning players to be a bad thing, but be as it may, I would like to see the choice to be or not to be buffed be done in the option window where you can choose to be or not be teleported, why group fly is not there as well, simply bewilders me!

 

 

Do you think I am only referring to grp fly? Yes the duck can make it so that grp fly doesn't effect me. Can I say duh? I've mentioned before that while using my "DPS TOOL" (which people seem to ignore) my numbers get all wonky after I get hit with defensive and or resist buffs and even dmg increase buffs sb etc. So being able to avoid said buffs ALL OF THEM, helps me to farm and do my missions, as I figure out the best build possible with my dps tool. Those numbers help me figure out the best possible build configuration for my toon. So OF COURSE I don't want to be buffed. ACCURACY of these numbers is essential. TY. 

[tidge]

20 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

Which alt? I have like a 100. Some folks seem to miss the part about "MY DPS TOOL". While crunching numbers ALL buffs fuck up the tools number rotation. So to have a fellow player realize I am only asking not to be buffed because I don't wish my numbers to be screwed up. So having the option to opt in and or out of non teaming buffs is a no brainer. Teams as in normal 8 man teams. Folks on here feel the need to nick pick lol. 

 

If you are using a "DPS TOOL", I am having trouble imagining that it is more valuable to be using it in the open world instead of on an instanced map. I also am having trouble believing that this is such a big deal (i.e. THE DATA IS SO IMPORTANT) that rando buffs from teh open world are more impor5tant than going through the temp powers list to make sure only the powers you want tested apply.

 

6 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

I have to use my buddies base to lvl up because every time I stop at MS liberty or some other, I get inundated with buffs. Name the buff and i get hit with it lol. Its stupid bad lol. 

 

Is the DPS TOOLS data vitally important at the Atlas Park Levels? Back Alley Brawler is also available in Atlas Park of course.