[OPEN BETA] Patch Notes for May 27th, 2025 - Issue 28, Page 2

[Ridiculous Girl]

and can we get a pinned topic of the current focused feedback pages, please? so i do not have to scroll through several pages trying to find one or look through the notes... 🙂

[Troo]

4 hours ago, Player-1 said:

Just to clarify, players do keep slots in powers that changed slotting options. Set bonuses might not work on them though if the power category changes (Targeted AoE bonuses may not work if the power becomes Single Target, and so on).

 

Players also do keep powers that were changed in order. The game only remembers the level they were when they acquired the power, not what level the power needs. It will only affect their build if they respec, or if they have not leveled into that power yet.

 

Hello Player 1. Thank you for your response. I know this is a busy time.

I am happy to make edits in order to be crystal clear and not cause grief.

 

14 hours ago, Troo said:

Existing characters do not get to keep previous slotting of powers if some enhancements have been removed from what a power can use.

 

Should this read different? How about:

Existing characters do not get to keep previous effects of slotting powers if some enhancement sets have been removed from what a power can use.

Note: It is on the player to know these changes as the enhancement may remain slotted but will not work.

 

Example: A power formerly accepted 'Accurate To Hit Debuff' enhancements but no longer does. A 'Cloud Senses - Chance for Neg Energy Dam' enhancement will no longer proc for damage and a 'Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit' will no longer provide a chance for +ToHit. If a character has both slotted they do not get to keep the effects.

 

14 hours ago, Troo said:

Existing characters [do often] keep powers at previous levels if the level availability changed. [this is lost if a character respecs]

 

Again happy to change this one. Let me know what you would prefer. [attempted to adjust this (shown above), still open to changing it]

 

[removed player post critique]

 

3 hours ago, Bionic_Flea said:

How much would you love it?

 

Mucho mucho amore!

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:02 PM by Troo

[Jacke]

 

11 hours ago, Troo said:

I would LOVE to be wrong.

 

54 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

How much would you love it?

 

Guess we'll find out....

 

11 hours ago, Troo said:

[ When there are radical changes to a Powerset ]

Existing characters do not get to keep powers that have been removed. 

Existing characters do not get to keep powers at previous levels if the levels have changed.

Existing characters do not get to keep previous iterations of powers.

Existing characters do not get to keep previous slotting of powers if some enhancements have been removed from what a power can use.

 

A character may get lucky and not have powers affected in a way that requires a respec, others will be gimped. A free respec will be provided to effected power sets.

 

Herm....  This is going to be tricky to get into a few words, especially without diagrams.  Quick replies:

• Yes.  For that Powerset, all the Old Powers on a Toon are transformed to a New Power.
• No.  If the Powerset change changed the order of Powers, the Toon gets to keep Powers that are too early in Level.
  • Until the Toon goes through a Respec.
• Yes.  For that Powerset, all the Old Powers on a Toon are transformed to a New Power.
• No.  The old slotting and the old enhancements remain.  But may not completely work, see below.
• Maybe the Toon won't need a Respec.  Maybe the Toon will need a Respec.  Depends on the Toon and the changes.
• I can't remember if free Respecs are still being given out what with all the sources of Respecs and Respec Recipes now.

What happens for a Powerset change is:

• The Old Version of the Powerset is 9 Powers in a sequence.
  • That sequences controls at what Levels those Powers are first available to add to a Toon.
• The New Version of the Powerset is 9 Powers in a sequence of the same sort.
• For the Powers of that Powerset on a particular Toon:
  • Old Power X is replaced by New Power Y.
    • For some 1-to-1 mapping of X from {1 to 9} to Y from {1 to 9}
  • Not necessarily Old Power X is replaced by New Power X (ie 1 becomes 1, 2 becomes 2, etc.).
    • An example:  New Regen changing its Powers sequence (and renaming to complicate things).
  • What happens when Old Power X is now New Power Y, but Y is normally available only at a higher Level?
    • The modified Toon gets to keep New Power Y at a lower Level than normally possible.
      • Until a Respec is done, then it's got to be taken normally.
  • What happens when Old Power X was slotted with enhancements that New Power Y can't take?
    • The modified Toon gets to keep those enhancements in New Power Y's slots.
    • If some entire enhancement aspects (Accuracy, Damage, EndRed, RechRed, etc.) were removed:
      • Those removed enhancement aspects if still present will do nothing.
    • I still have a Defender with Dark Mastery who had Soul Drain, now has Spirit Drain, and hasn't been Respeced.
      • Still has the PvP PBAoE enhancements from Soul Drain.
      • And as whole enhancement aspects weren't removed, they still enhance.
        • And give set bonuses not normally available on Spirit Drain, I think.
      • I have to Respec that Toon soon, at which time, I'll have to get proper replacement enhancements.
  • Even for the "simplest changes" to a Powerset, the Player, after thought and reflection, may still want to change the Toon's build in some way.
    • Thus needing a Respec.

 

 

[Guildslain]

Could Regen Sentinels please keep their absorption shields? My dads favorite character is now so squishy when I copied his build on the beta server. 🙏🙏🙏

[Troo]

35 minutes ago, Jacke said:

Guess we'll find out....

It is tricky keeping it brief and accurate.

I get that there can be sometimes situations or exceptions. I am okay with the expectation having some positive exceptions. There should be no negative exceptions or surprises. 

I appreciate your attempt at making it clear. If you boiled it down and distilled it to basic troo-ths..

 

5 minutes ago, Jacke said:

No.  If the Powerset change changed the order of Powers, the Toon gets to keep Powers that are too early in Level.

• Until the Toon goes through a Respec.

If a player doesn't ever respec. I don't have any characters even in their 40s which haven't respec'd much less characters that have gone through a revamp. ymmv.

I edited the line to include what you are saying.

 

15 minutes ago, Jacke said:

And give set bonuses not normally available on Spirit Drain, I think.

 

This as I understand it, this would be a bug.

[Mansome]

I am just happy Regen is finally gonna be fixed and playable. Ever since the old live server changes from toggle to click for instant healing I haven't been able to make it work for me. 

[ElectricKnight]

Really excited about Kallisti Wharf (along with other changes/additions).

One thing that I've desired, for ages now, is more variety for level 50 repeatable missions.  I may be in a minority, but one of my favourite things to do with CoH/V is to hop on and do some radio/newspaper missions, and Peregrine Island's select few enemies got old a long time ago. 😅
(I'd still love to see radio/paper missions opened up for all zones, and all enemies [available at those levels] for level 50s - but I can dream!)

Thanks for all the great work!

 

[Uun]

Now that City of Data is no longer being updated (10 months since the last update), would it be possible to provide more specific numbers in the patch notes? This is done in some cases, but not all. Notes that read "Resistances lowered" or "Gremlins have been given a new attack" aren't particularly useful without more specifics. Some of this information can be obtained in game, but may require creating or respecing a character if you don't have the power in question on an existing character.

[CradetheCoward]

Would be nice to get the ability to change powersets on a character. I dislike having to make a new character because a new powerset fits their theme better.

[Wavicle]

2 hours ago, Guildslain said:

Could Regen Sentinels please keep their absorption shields? My dads favorite character is now so squishy when I copied his build on the beta server. 🙏🙏🙏

The new version is stronger overall. If the character does not have Ailment Resistance it might need to respec to see the full improvement.

[Zenith Mech Man]

This is amazing I can't wait

[Riverdusk]

1 hour ago, Uun said:

Now that City of Data is no longer being updated (10 months since the last update), would it be possible to provide more specific numbers in the patch notes? This is done in some cases, but not all. Notes that read "Resistances lowered" or "Gremlins have been given a new attack" aren't particularly useful without more specifics. Some of this information can be obtained in game, but may require creating or respecing a character if you don't have the power in question on an existing character.

 

Agreed in general.  For gremlins though you can look at the detailed power info (green upside down ! in upper right) in the character creation screen to see the details.  Often you then just need to scroll down on the power info so that you can then click on the + sign to see the actual data.  For some reason it won't let you click on some info unless you scroll down first.

[High_Beam]

Hokie Smokes!  So much to absorb.  FYI the link to the Wyvern Revamp sends you to the Skulls like the skulls link does.

[Uun]

52 minutes ago, Riverdusk said:

Agreed in general.  For gremlins though you can look at the detailed power info (green upside down ! in upper right) in the character creation screen to see the details.  Often you then just need to scroll down on the power info so that you can then click on the + sign to see the actual data.  For some reason it won't let you click on some info unless you scroll down first.

Right you are, it's in the detailed enhancement screen. Still requires creating a character for powers I don't own.

[Wavicle]

7 minutes ago, Uun said:

Right you are, it's in the detailed enhancement screen. Still requires creating a character for powers I don't own.

You should be able to just type the power in brackets in chat to make the link to its info. You can also just look in the character creation screen without actually making the character…

[Nether]

I like all the changes, but I LOVE the idea of mutually exclusive powers!! It gives people more build choice, and allows devs to get creative. Do more of this please!!

[Kaballah]

yeah it's a great idea and I hope it becomes a common thing (e.g. how about a version of Storm/Hurricane that does a trawl instead of repel)

[Zhym]

Okay, yeah.  That's nice and all, but is anyone still actively developing Homecoming?

 

Seriously, though: Wow.  This is a LOT of new stuff and I can't wait for it. 

[nyhm]

9 hours ago, CradetheCoward said:

Would be nice to get the ability to change powersets on a character. I dislike having to make a new character because a new powerset fits their theme better.

 

This. I have a "psychic" sentinel Willpower/Psychic Blast or whatever it's called. Id love just to switch to the new psychic armor, and not create a new character, change the name of the original to give the new one that name, think of a new name for the original, and THEN start leveling the new one. 

[nyhm]

im excited for this. Ive been on hiatus and hthis will have me logging back in! 

 

Side note... can we please please please in the next issue get some new weapon options.......ok, just one new weapon option... escrima sticks for dual blades!

[Volt Mirage]

Peacebringer's Light Form is not mentioned with all the powers that get a visual cue when crash is impending. Did I miss it?

[Wavicle]

3 minutes ago, GreenWarlock said:

Peacebringer's Light Form is not mentioned with all the powers that get a visual cue when crash is impending. Did I miss it?

No, sadly kheldians and arachnos both seem to have been left out of upgrades to T9s, self heals and heal resistance, and whatever else. But the patch is so big, I can understand some things had to wait.

[ZEdglord]

"We understand nerfs are never popular, but sometimes we need to tone some sets down."

Why so much hate towards AE farms, man?

[gameboy1234]

On 5/26/2025 at 5:22 AM, The Curator said:

Various skirt models have had poor/non-functional LOD models that cause them to appear broken at distance; Skirt models should now always render the higher detail model.

 

BTW thanks for this!  It's a minor issue, but it always bugged me how these particular models didn't look right at a short distance away, it was kinda unclassy.  S.T.A.R.T. is looking much better now!

 

[temnix]

I can't believe they made Kallisti Wharf a high-level zone. There goes the last chance to have an alternative starting location for heroes, like Galaxy City of erst. In fact, it was a chance to have an alternative starting location for villains too, instead of doing Mercy for the hundredth time. But it's no dice with these people and their level of imagination.

Edited 17 hours ago by temnix