A controversial topic: Is it time to make items scarcer or cost more?

[Troo]

3 hours ago, baster said:

You want to make things more expensive for your own benefit, what about all the new players like myself? 

3 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

This is the most elitist, gatekeeping thing I've ever seen.

"I've got everything I want, so now I want no one else to get those things."

Shame on you.

 

ummmm... outrage much?

This is a 'general discussion' not a suggestion. lol. No one is doing anything. You're going to be okay.

 

"what about all the new players like myself?"

Folks like myself might welcome reading what quality of life suggestions you might have, what could improve the experience from a new player's perspective, and thank you for constructively participating in this discussion.

 

"Shame on you"

 

 

I gotta ask, did you even read the first post?

On 7/25/2025 at 12:43 AM, Troo said:

Making things scarcer likely wouldn't work well

On 7/25/2025 at 12:43 AM, Troo said:

If this is way off, I'd be happy to hear it.

On 7/25/2025 at 12:43 AM, Troo said:

Maybe there's a different reason.

 

[Skyhawke]

**Makes controversial topic**

 

**Wonders why there's so much controversy in said topic**

 

 

[skoryy]

1 hour ago, Skyhawke said:

**Makes controversial topic**

 

**Wonders why there's so much controversy in said topic**

 

 

[battlewraith]

2 hours ago, Skyhawke said:

**Makes controversial topic**

 

**Wonders why there's so much controversy in said topic**

 

 

 

 

He's not wondering about controversy (disagreement over ideas). 

 

Troo likes to think outside the box. This sets him at odds with people who want the box as snug as possible and get pissed off when people think about it. 

[Yomo Kimyata]

On 7/25/2025 at 3:43 AM, Troo said:

credit: @Yomo Kimyata 

for the original topic this is piggybacking

 

By the way, I've got a 2bn inf bet on which thread gets locked first.  Not telling what side I'm taking!

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

I'll take that bet!

[Skyhawke]

15 minutes ago, GM_GooglyMoogly said:

I'll take that bet!

 

No insider trading! 🤣

[Indystruck]

No.

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

25 minutes ago, Skyhawke said:

 

No insider trading! 🤣

 

14 minutes ago, Indystruck said:

No.

 

[skoryy]

Maybe instead of 2bn inf it was a pizza?

[tidge]

4 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

 

By the way, I've got a 2bn inf bet on which thread gets locked first.  Not telling what side I'm taking!

 

Those of us who've been around long enough know what will get a thread locked without also being worthy of warning points... I'm not saying there is or isn't a backroom deal in place.

[momentarygrace]

[UltraAlt]

8 hours ago, momentarygrace said:

[Skyhawke]

14 hours ago, momentarygrace said:

 

 

In fact, I <checks betting slip> DARE someone to lock this thread! 🤑💲

[Octogoat]

[Widower]

2 hours ago, Skyhawke said:

 

 

In fact, I <checks betting slip> DARE someone to lock this thread! 🤑💲

No. (Which is also a pretty good answer to the thread title, if you'd like more to debate.)

[Troo]

On 7/30/2025 at 5:13 AM, Skyhawke said:

**Makes controversial topic**

 

**Wonders why there's so much controversy in said topic**

 

guilty as charged.

 

 

no shy-ing from disagreement here either.

 

actively recruiting other perspectives (agree/disagree/outside-the-box) can be some choppy water.. 

still, thought exploration can distill to something more, often it doesn't. c'est la vie.

 

 

Spoiler

So why even try?

Believe it or not, there could be a larger plan at work and these exercises are part of a guiding methodology... maybe I am over sharing here:

 

"Form a Master Mind Group

Ally yourself with a group of like-minded folks for the creation and execution of your plan (or plans). Before doing so, decide what advantages and benefits you may offer the individuals of your group.

 

Build Your Leadership Capability

Some of the attributes of leadership which we could all aspire towards:

• Unwavering courage
• Self-control
• A keen sense of justice
• Definiteness of decision (more later)
• Definiteness of plans
• Doing more than being paid for
• Pleasing personality – leaders can’t be slovenly or careless
• Sympathy and understanding
• Mastery of detail
• Willingness to assume full responsibility
• Cooperation of others

In the same breath, we should also avoid the failures of leadership:

• Inability to organize details
• Unwillingness to render humble service
• Expectation of pay for what we “know” instead of what we do with that which we know
• Fear of competition from followers
• Lack of imagination
• Selfishness
• Intemperance (eg losing control through use of alcohol or drugs or other vices)
• Disloyalty
• Emphasis of title"

 

[Troo]

 

3 minutes ago, Widower said:

No. (Which is also a pretty good answer to the thread title, if you'd like more to debate.)

 

"Is it time to make items scarcer or cost more?" 

"No."

 

that's a fair position.

 

 

[TheMoneyMaker]

2 hours ago, Troo said:

 

 

"Is it time to make items scarcer or cost more?" 

"No."

 

that's a fair position.

 

 

It is the only right answer.

[Troo]

Plenty of folks are willing to agree things are a little cheap at the higher levels. (with the exception of a handful of very specific uber expensive items)

At the same time, things are expensive at lower levels.

 

3-5M for Luck of the Gamblers is the norm but they can be had for even less. That's not much for a level 50+. That's a lot for level 32 and below.

 

My personal opinion: 1) The cost to upgrade enhancements using Upgrade should be reduced. 2) The drop rate for rare salvage could be increased for lower level content. This might help the low end without drastic market swings. I don't have an opinion for the higher levels which effectively equates to do nothing sans a better idea.

 

Edited Thursday at 05:48 PM by Troo

[Skyhawke]

5 hours ago, Widower said:

No. (Which is also a pretty good answer to the thread title, if you'd like more to debate.)

 

 

C'mon...that was a perfect "/jranger" chance. 😅