cohRock Posted Friday at 01:21 PM Posted Friday at 01:21 PM It's always been a (very) minor irritation of mine that the power you choose at 49 can never be fully slotted. I was hoping for a while that we would be able to level our characters to 51, with the 51st not granting a new power, but three slots. I realize now that the game already has issues with level 50 toons being overpowered, as evidenced by the upcoming optional scaling of foes to +5 for non-incarnate content and +7 for incarnates. New slots would not be restricted to the 49th power however -- the could be placed in any power. To avoid further power creep, it occurred to me that we could just get the three slots without a 51st level. Three incarnate powers, Alpha, Lore, and Destiny, individually offer +1 benefits. I suggest that as each +1 is achieved a new slot is gained. A character would go to a trainer to get one (or all) of the new slots placed. They would not have to wait for +3 to train. (I wouldn't really object if this were the case, though.) slots would be normal, not special in any way slots would be permanent. Even if you chose a different Alpha power, say, and went below tier 3, the slot would remain. slots would not be affected by examplar status. Even if doing the first Positron TF at level 8, any slots in active powers would remain. slots would be respeccable. During a respec, you could re-assign the "extra" slots just like any other. slot limit would remain at 6 for all slottable powers. 1 1 1 1 -- Rock
tidge Posted Friday at 02:37 PM Posted Friday at 02:37 PM 1 hour ago, cohRock said: It's always been a (very) minor irritation of mine that the power you choose at 49 can never be fully slotted. In the words of the immortal Aretha Franklin: "R-E-S-P-E-C" 6 2
Yomo Kimyata Posted Friday at 02:47 PM Posted Friday at 02:47 PM 8 minutes ago, tidge said: In the words of the immortal Aretha Franklin: "R-E-S-P-E-C" To reinforce this and add more clarity, if you use one of your five free respecs at level 50, you can slot that level 49 power all the way to 6 slots. 1 Who run Bartertown?
tidge Posted Friday at 04:20 PM Posted Friday at 04:20 PM 1 hour ago, Yomo Kimyata said: To reinforce this and add more clarity, if you use one of your five free respecs at level 50, you can slot that level 49 power all the way to 6 slots. You don't even have to wait until level 50! The power simply has to be be picked prior to deciding how to assign slots.
Snarky Posted Friday at 04:21 PM Posted Friday at 04:21 PM I have always advocated for more slots. The least unbalancing suggestion I have offered was one slot at vet level 100. Which would still require a RESPEC at 50, for the 49 power to be fully slotted. Alternatively, you can plan your build beforehand and pick a power at 49 that needs no/few slots like a Leadership pool power. 2
Yomo Kimyata Posted Friday at 04:40 PM Posted Friday at 04:40 PM 18 minutes ago, Snarky said: I have always advocated for more slots. The least unbalancing suggestion I have offered was one slot at vet level 100. Which would still require a RESPEC at 50, for the 49 power to be fully slotted. Alternatively, you can plan your build beforehand and pick a power at 49 that needs no/few slots like a Leadership pool power. Speaking of slots, have you found the secret slot machine in St. Martial yet? Who run Bartertown?
cohRock Posted Friday at 05:53 PM Author Posted Friday at 05:53 PM 3 hours ago, tidge said: In the words of the immortal Aretha Franklin: "R-E-S-P-E-C" As I said, the level 49 power restriction was a very minor issue. My main point is the owning of three more slots on 50+3 characters. 1 -- Rock
cohRock Posted Friday at 05:54 PM Author Posted Friday at 05:54 PM 34 minutes ago, Ghost said: Less slots, not more! I'm not sure you'll maintain this position when your TF leader has set difficulty to +7. 1 1 -- Rock
lemming Posted Friday at 06:11 PM Posted Friday at 06:11 PM Would three more slots deeply unbalance the game? Probably no worse than anything else. I don't think it's needed by a long shot, even though I'm always needing more slots because my builds are sloppy. And if it was tied to incarnates, I'd add them at Judgement, Interface, and Hybrid being opened. 2 1
tidge Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Posted Friday at 06:26 PM 26 minutes ago, cohRock said: As I said, the level 49 power restriction was a very minor issue. My main point is the owning of three more slots on 50+3 characters. So why lead with "I'm irritated my lvl 49 power can never have 6 slots"? Are there any other parts of the argument we aren't supposed to believe, like maybe "avoiding power creep"? 1 1
cohRock Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Author Posted Friday at 06:31 PM 1 minute ago, tidge said: So why lead with "I'm irritated my lvl 49 power can never have 6 slots"? Are there any other parts of the argument we aren't supposed to believe, like maybe "avoiding power creep"? I led with it because it has been, as stated, a very minor irritation for a very long time, even back to Live. The obvious point of the suggestion is to add 3 slots to use for anything, not just the level 49 power. You can choose to ignore or believe whatever you wish, up to and including my opinion of your gracious nature. 1 -- Rock
Rudra Posted Friday at 06:33 PM Posted Friday at 06:33 PM 6 minutes ago, tidge said: So why lead with "I'm irritated my lvl 49 power can never have 6 slots"? Are there any other parts of the argument we aren't supposed to believe, like maybe "avoiding power creep"? Or how about how the OP states that level 50s are already OP, but wants three more enhancement slots anyway? 5 hours ago, cohRock said: I realize now that the game already has issues with level 50 toons being overpowered, 2 1
tidge Posted Friday at 06:48 PM Posted Friday at 06:48 PM 11 minutes ago, Rudra said: Or how about how the OP states that level 50s are already OP, but wants three more enhancement slots anyway? I was expecting a better springboard from @Ghost suggestion, maybe something like "I don't use those slots in prestige sprints (or Fitness *gasp*), how about I get the chance to move them to other powers I do use?"... sort of "I'm only optimizing slots I already have, I'm not asking for more slots' 1
Snarky Posted Friday at 07:25 PM Posted Friday at 07:25 PM 2 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said: Speaking of slots, have you found the secret slot machine in St. Martial yet? Only the contact, very fun. Is there something cool there?!?
biostem Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Posted Friday at 08:32 PM I wonder how difficult or unbalancing it would be to have an option to still level up, but just not place any enh slots "yet"...
cohRock Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM Author Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM 6 hours ago, biostem said: I wonder how difficult or unbalancing it would be to have an option to still level up, but just not place any enh slots "yet"... Easy enough to instatest. Shift to a second build, which i think trainers will allow once your character is at least level 10. 1 -- Rock
biostem Posted yesterday at 03:42 AM Posted yesterday at 03:42 AM 8 minutes ago, cohRock said: Easy enough to instatest. Shift to a second build, which i think trainers will allow once your character is at least level 10. Right, but it won't let you do anything with that first build until you do place those slots, and without using a respec, you still wouldn't be able to 6-slot that lvl 49 power pick. 1
Snarky Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Again, and i cannot emphasize this enough, just pick a low slot power at 49. There are usually 3+ powers in any build that require zero added slots. Maybe 7 on average that take less than 4 total slots? Why not just wait and take one of those powers at 49? 1 1
Ghost Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Snarky said: Again, and i cannot emphasize this enough, just pick a low slot power at 49. There are usually 3+ powers in any build that require zero added slots. Maybe 7 on average that take less than 4 total slots? Why not just wait and take one of those powers at 49? Because…….people want everything given to them 1 1
tidge Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Snarky said: Again, and i cannot emphasize this enough, just pick a low slot power at 49. There are usually 3+ powers in any build that require zero added slots. Maybe 7 on average that take less than 4 total slots? Why not just wait and take one of those powers at 49? Even if a non-EAT took every power from the Primary and Secondary, I think they could still pick all five of the Epic/Patron powers by 47.... so maybe the cool kids are doing that, plus a travel power, which is delaying a pick until 49? 1
Rudra Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 57 minutes ago, tidge said: Even if a non-EAT took every power from the Primary and Secondary, I think they could still pick all five of the Epic/Patron powers by 47.... so maybe the cool kids are doing that, plus a travel power, which is delaying a pick until 49? Correct. If a player should want to for some reason, they can have every primary power, every secondary power, every epic pool power, and still have one more pool power choice left.
golstat2003 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago On 11/14/2025 at 11:21 AM, Snarky said: I have always advocated for more slots. The least unbalancing suggestion I have offered was one slot at vet level 100. Which would still require a RESPEC at 50, for the 49 power to be fully slotted. Alternatively, you can plan your build beforehand and pick a power at 49 that needs no/few slots like a Leadership pool power. Yep A LOT of build crafters on this forums do this in the Mids builds they post. Great suggestion! 1
golstat2003 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago On 11/14/2025 at 1:11 PM, lemming said: Would three more slots deeply unbalance the game? Probably no worse than anything else. I don't think it's needed by a long shot, even though I'm always needing more slots because my builds are sloppy. And if it was tied to incarnates, I'd add them at Judgement, Interface, and Hybrid being opened. Or one slot each for the NEXT incarnate slots (if HC ever adds them)
Starhammer Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago The thing I've always wanted is from level 41-50 on level up, allow each character to choose whether to get a new power or 3 new enhancement slots. Some of my characters at 50 have powers they don't need and just took because you gotta take something, but are vastly low on enh slots. Others are fine on slots, but could really use another power, or two, or three. Most are somewhere in the middle. But the choice would be great. Obviously, I doubt the coding for this would be feasible.
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