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Thanks mate, yeah if you have that bind for Mystic/Transloc, will take a look. Will have to respec my Widow again now to swap out Fly for Mystic for sure! 😉

Ohhh...I misunderstood & got overly excited, thinking that it would have a chance to proc & add end/health to ME every time my pets hit! DOH! _blush_

New MM necro/dark is frickin awesom! All I have is 25 IOs, a couple LotGs, a Freebird:Stealth in Fly & the build is pretty much done at 22! Seems you now get the Lich at 22. Once I get the 2nd Knight at 24, just need to grab Hasten and Hover, there's only really Dark Emp & Fluffy left in the 30s, which will be nice, but not essential for normal gaming. With Soul Ext I'm pretty much steamrolling most +2/+2 content as it is he he. Thanks heaps for tips guys, especially Striker for Panacea:Chance slotting into Zombies, which I must try next! 😄

From a casual carebear pov, all I know is, there used to be 100s of cheap melee recipes which I could convert with new toons to make a few small million inf, just to get a head start with SOs for the first 20-30 levels or so. Now, there are single digit amounts and they are asking up to 100K for the recipes, when they used to go for 5-10K. Bleh. I guess like most ppl here (and one said it explicitly), the game is only meant for/aimed at hardcore players with multiple 50s. I'm yet to get one toon to 50, as I much prefer progression to end game, and also due to my rampant OCD alt-o-holism, he he. So, I can't run all those 50+ missions/zones/raids to get heaps of merits or inf, other than playing the AH early conversion game. Any advice on how to work around this market blowout much appreciated. If there are whales creating a monopoly stranglehold on the market, I would hope that the HC admins would do something about it - supply & demand free market economics don't work in mmo virtual markets for very long before something breaks.

Cheers matey, she's parked again at 24 - I went off on a PB/WS tangent, and am now power-levelling my Necro/Dark MM, which is absolutely ludicrous mode, even at +2 diff / 2-player! I had her parked as a Villain, so I switched to Hero, as I much more enjoy the zones, eh. My Fortunata build - don't have Mids or anything, here is a summary: Fortunata Training: - mostly all 25 IOs currently: - Mental Blast - 1 acc, 2 dmg - Subdue - 1 acc, 2 dmg - Dominate - 1 acc, 2 dmg - Aim - 2 rchrg - Psionic Tornado - 2 acc, 3 dmg Teamwork: - Combat Training Def: 1 LotG global rchrg - Tac Train: Manuev - 2 end, 1 def - Combat Train Offens - 1 acc - Indomitable - 1 end, 2 resist dmg - Foresight - 2 def, 1 resist dmg Fortunata Teamwork: - Mark Pres - 1 LotG global rchrg - Mid Link - 1 ToHit buff, 2 deff Pools: - Stamina - 3 end mods - Fly - Freebird Stealth, Flight Speed - Hover - def So, as you can see, very much a WIP. Hope you like the flying with yours, I think it really suits a ranged play style much better.

Hey guys, couple hopefully quick questions: 1. how do I list my keybinds in chat? /bindlist doesn't work on HC...I know I can save them to a file and look at them that way, but that seems a bit silly. 2. I saw somewhere a simple, instant teleport bind, so that when I press the 'F' key for example, it instantly teleports me to where my cursor is pointing - no secondary click, release or anything else (never mind - found this one on one of my alts it's: /bind F "powexec_location Cursor Teleport" 🙂 3. how to I then bind my normal teleport on my Warshade say, to the same key as the Black Dwarf one? Or do I need to re-bind as part of the form switch binds every time? Cheers!

Awesome guide, thanks Yomo, even in 2022 for this grumpy old bastard gamer! 😄 I notice you still talk about travel powers as if they are only available from level 14, but HC changed that to level 4...? Just a minor observation mate ;).

Very late to the Fortunata party. Just dinged 24 & my whole world changed lol! I think getting the Widow to 24 was one of the more painful levelling experiences of my CoH carreer! But, I'm here now, I re-spec'd to pure ranged tonight & the damage, control, safety and end management is like playing an entire new class! Ok, so I intend to solo her to 50 - I rarely group, so if you have any advice on which powers I can drop, especially if they only benefit teams, that would be grand. One thing I don't understand about any of the Fortunata builds presented - I'm baffled that no one takes Fly+Hover with a ranged build - I couldn't play without that freedom! Plus you can add Freebird Stealth to supplement Mask Presence then, so you don't need to have a useless Sprint toggled on sucking end. What am I missing folks...?

Yeah, I barely lost any health just in the 1st 10 levels with a couple builds (Inv/Fire & Bio/Dark). Defenders surprised me on HC - I don't remember them doing anywhere near that amount of dmg back on live, not that I'm complaining! Have a theme Spider-Woman look-a-like (Poison/Energy) & a Storm/Dark. I think the AT def deserves more play time solo, heh. Dafuq? LOL, kidz play the craziest things he he! It's like me deciding to play a pure melee blaster, or pure dmg controller say...😱 Which gives me an idea...has anyone gotten any AT to 50 before just on pool powers i.e. without picking/using a single primary/secondary (apart from the 2 or 3 you have to pick before level 4)...? That would be a challenge for someone like Voltak lol! 😉 Read that in detail before, but there isn't an alien bi-form build specifically, which relegates human-form just to stealth, buffs/heals, no melee support. Perhaps I'm asking for too much, or gimping my PB as a result, I'm not really anti-human you know! 😉 Would a WS fair better without HF perhaps...?

Thanks Gulbasaur, I'm going to look into those suggestions of yours, should I keep levelling the PB. Still trying to find the sweet spot as far as which class resonates with me as a mostly solo carebear...even tried a couple tankers this week, *shock, horror*! 😉

Thanks again to you vet guys. I recently started a dark/temp blaster, also have a psychic/temp from a while back + psychic/mental. Might have to roll a elec/temp and/or beam/temp to see how they go, for sure. I imagine this says that the general consensus is, you can't go wrong with TM as a secondary for any blaster...? Tried several corruptors and doms recently as well, yesterday I went off on a tanker tangent, when I tried to resurrect my old invul/fire tanker Ruby Rock back from live, heh. Then made dark/bio one which is even more tanky I think. The stalkers I tried just didn't stick. Only really enjoying my Ill/Dark troller, PB, beast/nature MM & a couple defenders were ok for solo levelling I guess. The widow is parked at 21, I just can't afford the hospital fees to get her to 24 Fortunata - you def need private health insurance levelling those lol! ---- Finally got my widow to 24 last night. She is now all death-from-above Fortunata ranged goodness! Totally different ballgame with her new powers and approach. Most mobs up to orange just melt before they even get to move, much less get to me, given her core holds and mez powers :D.

I'm getting back into my PB after a long hiatus. Only at 23, but loving the Nova blasting & Dwarf tankiness+heal, really makes this a survivable, fun, mostly ranged build, which is my preferred play style. I only really use the human form for stealth, buffs & Fly/Hover, which is lot more manoeuvrable than Nova Flight. So, is this bi-form viable to end-game? Why no love for the pure alien build? Am I missing something major from the human form that will gimp me later on perhaps...? I was very pleasantly surprised to find that HC had fixed the toggles in HF, so they stay on when you transform back & forth, which is a huge QoL change imo! 🙂 If anyone has any links to a good, affordable build that will take me to 50, would be much obliged. I currently have all 25 IOs slotted, not sure how far they will take me and when I should upgrade again, or switch to attuned IOs.

Yet to get my Fortunata (well lvl 21 Widow) to any place that's not under-powered or squishy as hell. On a whim, went back to my PB which was parked at 22. OMG! So long-ranged deadly with Squidly, so tanky with Dwarfy, so...stealthy & buffy with Hooman form lol? Granted that's with all 25 IOs, but just a joy to play, so I'm not sure how I will go back to my poor widow....I guess that's why they are called that - most end up getting abandoned after their 'husband' dies too many times? 🤣 Anyway, I think I need to get at least one toon to 50 and play some team endgame finally. It's prob going to be my Ill/Dark troller who is almost at 40, or this PB, if I can stick with it. Alt-o-holism is a real curse and needs to be taken seriously folks! 😉

This is a fantastic guide/exposé of the Widow class, thanks guys! I'm trying my hand at one & just hit 20. Very end hungry and squishy so far, but I will power through to 24 & def re-spec as a purely ranged Fortunata, as I mostly solo and love to snipe from above (so Fly/Hover are almost mandatory). So, does anyone have a link to a good, cheap, relatively beginner-friendly Fortunata Mids build please? I have around 100million Inf across all my mains/alts, but really don't want to blow it all if it's going to cost that much (or more!) to get a Fortunata viable! If a low cost Fortunata will be a struggle, I'll prob just go back to my Ill/Dark troller or PB or even Beast/Nature MM, which are all fairly solo/low-cost friendly for levelling to 50, in my experience so far. I have no idea what I want to do at 50 - obviously, I may need to dip my toe in the team waters, although I hate letting others down if I'm crap at playing a particular role/class eh. Perhaps I should just go back to one of my Defender/Blaster builds for a pure ranged sniper hero...? Sorry, I know this is duplicate question/post from another thread, So, any good, cheap, starter build for a Fortunata from 24-50 would be much appreciated, cheers folks, at least until this alt-o-holic finds his niche heh.

Thanks heaps kindly guys - you learn something new every day, even when you achieve grumpy old bastard gamer status he he!

Thanks mate, a Fortunata certainly sounds like it's worth having a good go at, especially as I have a Widow at 16 already! Will power level her into the 20s & see how I go. I made my "FlyGirl" theme widow originally with just super-flight-speed in mind, but since everyone gets that virtually for free now, I'll have a look at re-specing her from someone's build on the forums that suits my 'play style' heh. Just looked at her - I 3-slotted Fly & picked Hover and Evasive Maneuvers already lol! That can't be very good, especially with mostly DOs across the board, as it was meant to be a kind of 'solo self-found' build, live & learn...🙄 (I assume that the forum post "Voltak's Fortunata geared for ITF 4 star - tested and proven." is def not for me, as I'm nowhere near there yet...? 😉 ---- Just quickly dusted off my widow & levelled quickly to 18 (i switched her to hero last time I played as I find the CoV maps depressing & prefer playing the hero power fantasy anyway ;). So, I forgot just how damn squishy she was lol! Just no defense/resist or dmg mitigation at this level. Had to exit a couple missions several times, heal & come back. Daymn. She was a little better at 17 when I switched out all those crappy old DOs to 20 SOs. Hope it all changes when I upgrade to Fortunata and can just stay at range...8-/.

Can you please elaborate on "using your stalker ATOs"...Archetype Origins? What does that mean in this context? Sorry, total terminology newb here! ;).

I have a concept Dominator lass you would like! https://imgur.com/a/KhqDW1n Belladonna Nightshade, Plant/Thorny We should...'get together' some time, Mr Squiggles...😘

Cheers I made mine "Kelvina Tor" - she hits like a super-mule, but I guess I'm just crap at melee - more then 3 or 4 mobs & I struggle to mop up once I de-stealth, eh. Is there a Stalker School you can send this Grumpy Old Bastard (GOB) Gamer to lol...?

Oh course, you can always auto-cast it along with Hasten if you want... 😉

Wow. Didn't expect a simple post/question to spark this much debate! 🙂 I actually watched Voltak's Dark/Dark Dominator wiping the floor with some 54 Incarnates after posting this - the gameplay, along with several points in this thread, is well above my head & experience with the game lol! To elaborate on some follow-up points: I'd love to hover-blast and never let the mobs get close if I could, but I gather that's a cowardly & inefficient way to play even a Blaster he he. For context, I have an Ill/Dark troller at almost 40 (I did get a ice/fire blaster to mid 40s back in the day), and that's my highest. I have never gotten a character to 50 & I guess I could easily power through to 50 with the troller (gotta love range+pets+perma-stealth+debuffs!), if it wasn't for my rampant alt-o-holism...I also have a beast/nature MM at 26 & a PB at 22, Widow at 16, WS at 18, all of which I have enjoyed to various degrees. Have tried a couple Defenders more recently - poison/energy Spider-Woman theme hero & a Storm/Dark, also just started a Dark/TM blaster last night after reading some other posts, which I can't comment about yet being only level 4 heh. I do also love stealth, but having tried a few stalkers, you are pretty much in melee range after the alpha, and quite squishy I found with several primary/2ndary combos I tried - taking on more than 3 or 4 mobs was always a hospital sentence for me, and yes, it's probably just my play style, or lack thereof! 😉 All of my other 20 cosplay heroes are under 10...*blush*. My other criteria is getting around quickly & easily - I mostly prefer Flight so usually grab Hover at some point, although I appreciate Teleport to be quicker after trying it on one of the defenders recently - love that hover-in-place-on-arrival was added in until you do something - I don't recall that on live & remember I kept tele-falling constantly :D. However, I am getting on in years, and my reflexes and reaction time ain't what it used to be, ahem, (although I still play Warframe daily), so just keep that in mind please. So, I'm basically an older, time-limited, wannabe power-gamer, who only plays casually but does love all things spandex & this game (may the Gods bless you Homecoming - I was almost inconsolable after Marvel Heroes got shut down!). Thanks for all your help & lots of food for thought so far.

How did you go matey? Mine is almost 40 & virtually indestructible with all my pets, superior invis, all the debuffs & whatnot - very enjoyable solo play style indeed! 🙂

Just started a Dark/Temp blaster as a sort of thematic hero, just for fun, doubt I'll get her to 50, with my rampant alt-o-holism he he. Which led me to thinking...what is in fact the best solo AT/build for killing at range consistently? Is it in fact a blaster, or a defender perhaps, or a sentinel, Kheldian, Dominator, Corruptor,, or even some MM build perhaps...? Obviously, extreme glass canon builds are out of the running, as it has to be playable solo to 50 & have a decent TTK/TTL overall, so it doesn't become overly squishy & frustrating at any particular levels or content. What does everyone think is the CoH #1 Top Gun, if there is such a thing?

I'm a bit late to the party, but I just made one of these on Excelsior ("Entropia") & looking forward to blasting away with this theme build. As I intend to almost exclusively solo, I can skip 2 or 3 powers from both pools, correct...? I've gone with a tech time lord kinda build - just grabbed Fly at 4th (can't live without it!) & may take Stealth & Hasten soon after & Hover a bit later. Might take Leadership towards the end & your Epic Force Mastery looks the go too! Any other pool powers might be best saved for global CD IO slots for the likes of Luck of the Gambler, which seems to be the meta for most builds.

I made a Spider-Woman defender too a while back & being recently inspired to try some defenders (being a mostly solo carebear) I've tried some out. Storm/Dark most recently was very controlly & a little squishy, especially when I ran out of End, which I was constantly. So, my Jessica Drew is thematically Poison/Energy, as I thought that fit best. Even at low levels, she is head & shoulders above Luna Tempest (the other defender). She also flies, so can Envenom from the get-go, snipe a lot of damage with Power Bolt/Blast & seems to never run out of End, make of that what you will. The next couple def & to-hit debuff powers virtually make her untouchable. Shame poison has 3 powers that only work on allies, which means I'll hardly ever use them & therefore most likely skip them, eh. I'll play her through to 20, see how she tracks, but so far, I am preferring the Blastender approach of "the best defense is a strong offense" 🙂. If anyone has a good levelling/power guide for a Poison/Energy defender, would be much obliged folks.