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I don't think the thread should be locked. Folks clearly still need to vent and it's better that it happens here. Just at least put down your own wants and consider the bigger picture when you do, or at least conceptually understand that this is a practical step to keep us away from the unhealthy economy we had on the original servers.

Oh, I managed to miss the earlier post explaining what you were doing. The reason I distinguish tanker melee and stalker melee is Gauntlet, which gives it a support function. That aside, hard to think of any other substantial differences. I feel as though Melee, Ranged and maybe assault should score the same? Do the secondary effects between the powersets differ enough to distinguish them in this way? I'd say Pet Damage should score higher than either support or mitigation, and mitigation second due to bodyguard. The supportive functions of pets tend to be limited to themselves or too uncontrollable to be very useful.

Since you're using 255 as your highest mark, I gotta assume you're planning on doing something with this data. Can you clue us in at all how you're thinking of using it? It might help us know what sort of feedback would be useful. As others say, it's a bit hard to assess purely against the powersets without regard to AT. A tank's melee set is a different beast to a stalker's melee set.

I'm in the corner of new hero-side patron arcs of the same 6-7 mission length that foil the plots of each of the patrons, learning their secrets in doing so and giving access to the patron powers. It might take longer to see realised but it would be a bit more elegant, I think, than opening redside arcs to blue. Edit: I understand the badge predicament, and I'm not even an RPer. I like to keep my heroes and villains on the sides they belong.

I was thinking this for a while, but since domination is still an 'either on or off' thing, rather than the progressive buff of fury, there's enough of a distinction for me. But you'd definitely start getting the same rush to get into the fray and get that bar up, which maybe isn't so attractive. And yes, you'd be thinking about the bar even once you've hit perma.

My pro selling strategy is to eyeball an average from the last five sales and subtract about 200 to 500k inf. Usually sells within a day to a value I'm happy with. Sometimes it misses if the last five sales have been anomalous or if the IOs are settling into a new equilibrium (The new IOs have been very hit-and-miss), but it does the trick for a fairly casual player. Definitely don't just sell for prices that you want to sell at. That's just too hopeful and it doesn't work that way. You gotta list at prices people will buy things.

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Shall we not name-call, maybe?

In the example of tanking (and practically ever other form of playing I can think of), you progressively become a better tanker through small steps. A little goes a long way. Domination is unusual per the rest of the game's progression, where it requires a 122.5% recharge to bloom and anything before then is dramatically less effective. At the moment, the recharge for domination at anything less than 122.5% invariably adds the time it takes for the domination bar to refill, which could be a few minutes. After 122.5%, the bar is irrelevant if you're able to click the button in time. The suggested change potentially removes the additional forced waiting time for anything less than 122.5% by allowing you to rebuild the domination bar while domination is active, ready for the next one. The 122.5% requirement to perma won't change, and perma won't be available at any lower level than it is now, but you'd feel a more obvious progression towards perma as you build your global recharge.

Is this your battle cry now?

Same boat. And this from a person who loves their permadoms. Galaxy Brain's explanation won me over. I like the idea of enabling near-permadom. I could live with a little less uptime and it would be nice to hot have to take either lotg mules or hasten.

I think this is a fair concern and the update has come as a surprise. Broadly speaking, I agree that the lack of warning is out of character. However, we're not privvy to the data that the hc team have access to, so we can only speculate. The abruptness of it makes me suspect that some alarming data around inflation was raised recently. Presumably the data showed that inf generation from farming was too rampant and too niche. Let's say it turned out that farming generated over 50% of the games influence, that would be pretty scary. (Anything more than, idk, 25% should make you twitchy.) A month of discussion plus solution implementation means a month's worth of damage done. Once the inf is generated, there's no fair and easy way to get rid of it. I suspect the data was concerning enough that this measure simply had to be pushed out immediately. It could be (and I'm not saying this is true, just postulating) that this measure is semi-temporary to curb inflation while a more robust solution is put in place. I doubt anything will change for farmers now, since farming is still the best way to generate inf. I think it's more likely we'll see exemplar rewards compensated via merits, since the existance of merits do a lot to keep prices down. You mentioned in another post that increasing money sinks would help, such as the AH tax. And yes, absolutely it would (though could start to cause other problems). Sustainable money sinks are very hard to find and balance, however. That's something that does require vigorous testing.

There's a game?!?

I don't see how that would make anything better for anyone...

I have a human-only warshade. He's great and ranks one of my most powerful characters, but he relies pretty heavily on his click powers: sunless mire, stygian circle and eclipse. The nature of those powers requires him to be surrounded by mobs, so going toe-to-toe with an AV, he struggles. The forms give you the adaptability to deal with that, but the enhancment slots get really tight.

I'd hazard a guess that we might see some changes to rewards to compensate in some way. Though I'm supposing it won't have anything to do with inf if the amount getting generated was unhealthy. It might take time for the team to know how to balance rewards, given that data needs a bit of time to settle.

My guess would be that farmers were generating the majority of inf. Certainly enough of a proportion to raise a warning sign. Totally a guess, though. I just imagine that the data HC were seeing must have been quite serious for this kind of solution. (Edit: Though after dwelling on it, I do see your point.)

The Abyss is co-op. Can't remember where you access it from Heroside. Maybe the Smugglers Submarine in IP?

I don't think we'll see purples shifting much at all for a really long time. If anything, their prices will eventually rise. I think PvP IOs will give more obvious clues into what the effects on the market are, but right now with more people playing we'll see them rise. Very hard to know what effect the change is having.

Interesting example of reality.

We're going to see if the forums break at page 256.

Each attack has a few components. An attack might have the components Cold/Smashing Ranged, for example. Whichever component you have the highest defence against will be used in the defence roll. So if you have Smashing at 30%, Cold at 20% and Ranged at 20%, you'll roll against it with your Smashing defence. Since practically every attack has at least one type (Smashing, Negative, Cold, etc) and one position (Melee, Ranged or AoE), it's normally a good idea just to focus on either your typed defence or your positional defence. Generally it's easier to build your typed defence thanks to massive boosts from fairly roundly available powers like Scorpion Shield, which gives you high Smashing, Lethal and Energy defence. Also, since the sizeable majority of enemy powers in the game have either smashing, lethal or energy components, you can get away with focusing mainly on those three. Negative is also good to cover. Super Reflexes and Ninjistu are examples of powersets that make good use of positional defence, which covers more attacks. Other than those few sets, it's normally pretty tough to build positional defence. (Edit: Ninja'd by a couple of seconds!)

I think it's because the set mixes it up between smashing/psi and lethal/psi damage. But yes, I'd rather be able to pick one or the other, damage type be damned.

Amazing work! Thanks Galaxy Brain! Edit: one anomaly I spotted that made me nearly change everything I thought I knew is that Domination can't be slotted with IOs.

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