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When I see my SG go from one of the biggest on Excelsior server to it being...just me...and the commonality between them is that they all PLed and then burnt themselves out on end game content, I have no other logical choice but to put together the commonalities between all of those players and the one thing they all had in common. Having said that, it would seem you have missed my point of this thread since you feel I am pointing a finger at anyone or anything. I simply made an observation and pointed that observation out. I cannot withhold my findings out of fear that people will think that I am pointing a finger at them. There is an expression of, "Facts don't care about your feelings" and although the only facts that I have are the facts of my personal experience, I simply can't stay silent out of fear that people are threatened by my personal experience. Again, I simply ask that those who do get bored from all the power leveling, to at least give a try running low level content before running off. I don't think that is too much to ask for and considering my personal experience of something that is prevalent in my SG, I used that as to my basis to make such a request of players who would do so. This narrative that continues to get pushed that ignores the root of this thread's purpose for some strange reason keeps being repeated all through this thread...and to be honest, despite my best efforts to keep this thread on track, it is quite frustratingly repeating the false projected intent over and over. The odds that they all quit playing while having that one thing in common being a pure coincidence would be an astronomical number considering all of the obvious reasons one could quit playing for. The observation had to be made in order to make my point. Instead of people saying, "Yeah, I guess that would be worth a try if I ever get bored of Power Leveling, hell, I just might like it and if I don't, I can always walk after giving it a shot" people are instead coming at me with, "you don't own me, you don't control me, stop telling me how to play and stop pointing your fingers at me" which is completely not even the point or subject matter of this thread, not to mention I have done none of those things. That is the most frustrating thing about posting forums. You can say one thing, but all it takes is for one person to misinterpret your meaning or place an accusation based on false assumptions and it throws the thread off for the rest of the duration. Meanwhile, even though I have made this abundantly clear that this is not my intentions, those posts are continuously overlooked and I continue to have to explain myself. I absolutely love a good debate. What I hate is debating against things that I never even said. That drives me insane and if there is ever a reason that I just vanish and stop posting these forums all together, it will be because of that very reason. I just wish people would open their minds and ask for clarification rather than assuming intent and then arguing against that projected intent instead of arguing against what the actual intent was.

I can dig that.

I will be periodically posting this because I see people continuing to respond as though this post is about nerfing AE or telling people how to play or telling people PLing is bad or whatever other false intent people like to put on threads like these. So I want to keep this in perspective since all it takes is one post stating false intent and it derails the real intent.

/interrupts ...I will be right here to shut the nerfers down, standing back to back with you to fight and beat them down till my last breath.

Your best bet is to ask Modders to help you out there. We are putting together tools to mod visual effects and it seems there are a few visual effects modders working to bring some cool stuff to the game. You'll find it in the tools, utilities and downloads section of the forums. We have tons of Sound Mods and QoL Mods, now we are working on Visual Effects as well.

My WS deals considerably more damage than my PB. And I think that is more due to the fact that I can have 3 pets up at one time. Those three pets plus my attacks really dishes out the pain, heh.

I'm sorry, but I hate everything about Torrent or Umbral Torrent. I absolutely love Nightfall, the animation, the visual effects, the DoT's, everything. The only thing I dislike about it is the narrow cone and I wish the cone were much wider....however, I would take that over Torrent or Umbral Torrent any day. With Torrent or Umbral Torrent I simply can't stand the Knock Back, I absolutely hate the weak animation, the weak Visual Effects...it is just an ugly power that doesn't do much for me mechanically either. If anything I would like to see those powers gone and replaced. However, I won't request that because I know some players actually like Torrent, so I don't request it to get removed. So please, don't request Nightfall be removed either.

Wait, what? Is that a thing??? How in the hell did I not know this? Well, I don't really run paper missions or radio missions very often, I guess if I did I would know this, right? Still, I had no idea you could get the accolade that way! Right? That will make leveling up so much easier since it will be a one click SO swap instead of replacing each and every one. It's even worse is if you out level them, then you have to combine them all which is a huge pain in the rear. I am right there with you on that!

Fire/Kins were PLing people before the cap was level 40? I honestly do not remember that. I remember Fire Trollers having more pets back then, but I don't recall them PLing in those days. Curious, how were they pulling that off? The mechanics back then were way different, I just can't see a Fire/Kin surviving in those days to be able to PL anybody. I'm not calling you a liar, I just wish I had seen that for myself. That would have been interesting to watch.

I suppose, however I always run them with normal DO's or even SO's and get through them fine. I personally feel running them with a fully IOed out build with set bonuses and such is just overkill. But yeah, I hear you, to each their own and different strokes and all.

I would just like to reiterate that nobody is asking for power leveling to end. This thread is a plea to anyone left playing that if they get bored of the game and all they do is PL to 50 and play end game content, to please give lower level content a try before running off. If you are still bored after that, by all means, see you next update. Having said that, one argument I have seen (can't remember who said it, it was a few pages back) is that they don't play lower level content because they have already played all of the lower level content and this was their reason for PLing to level 50. What strikes me as odd with that is two things; they instead play the same end game content so many times they grow bored with the game, even though they have already played the end game content just the same as they have played the lower level content, and now that we are getting brand new lower level content, I seen at least one person say how much they don't understand why the Devs would create lower level content. It seems to me that the Devs creating lower level content would give players (who don't play lower level content because they have already played it all) an actual reason to level up without power leveling, since now they have brand new lower level content. Here is another question that I am curious about...so please, help me understand, the logical part of my brain honestly can't find any logic in what I have seen, but can somebody explain to me why you would want to PL to level 50 and then turn around and run Positron through Numina? Why not just run those Task Forces as you level and then after you get your Task Force Commander badge, THEN Power Level the rest of the way? It makes more sense to me to do it that way, especially since if you want that Accolade you are going to have to run them anyway, right? That would help with players wanting to run those Task Forces on +0 because now they are not only doing it for the badges, but they are running them for the fast XP too. Kind of a win/win, right? And that is not a stab at anyone, it is just my logical mind trying to convey the most perceived logical way to run Task Forces, even if you prefer to PL to 50. Just seems to make more sense in my mind to do it that way rather than PL to 50 and then go back and have to run it anyway. At least this way you end up spending the same amount of time in the Task Forces, but you actually spend less time farming, but the end result is exactly the same. Honest question, this is not a stab at anyone, I just want to understand is all.

The GM's watching this thread understand that this is a very thin ice topic. So you will have to forgive them in this case because they are trying to keep this topic available without shutting it down all together, which also means they are going to be diligent about keeping this thread clean. I appreciate them for it, I wouldn't take it personal, they are just being cautious on this thread. The problem with balancing in this game, especially now, is that nobody can agree on anything. Players have been at each others throats over balancing requests and ideas on these forums. No matter what your suggestion, it becomes World War 3. I'm sure that the players being unable to agree on anything is probably making balancing more of a headache than it is worth for the Devs, because they simply just can't make people happy...even after they have bent over backwards to do so. IE the Energy Melee changes. Some people wanted the original ET, some people wanted to keep it as is. So the Devs brilliantly found a way to give players both....what happened? Players complained about that too. I would hate to be a Dev in charge of balancing in this game. Gamers, including myself, can be some of the most hard to please crowd out there. We are worse than self entitled, rude and demanding McDonald's customers. The difference here is, we are getting something for free and still act like this! 😄

If you read my original post (and if you have read it, check out the edited version) then you will know exactly what my goal is. I have also mentioned my goal on page 2 or 3. However, people keep talking to me like I am trying to remove it, or trying to tell people they are wrong for doing it, or trying to control how others play or whatever. They keep projecting that on to me and then arguing with me over it when I never even said that crap. It's a strawman argument and I really can't stand strawman arguments. One poster on this thread was even ignored by me because they were making insinuations as to my goals and using strawman arguments, then they acted like it was me who was bashing them for me defending myself against their strawman arguments. It's absurd really. The thing about strawman arguments is that other readers read those comments and then their views become coerced and then they start thinking the same thing. Anyway, check out my Edit in the OG post and then check out my response found here....then you will have a full understanding of what my goal in this thread is and then you can ignore any post that projects some evil plan to be rid of Power Leveling on me because you will know the truth, heh. Post below. Edit is on the Original Post.

I have not used Photon Seekers since they first came out. Once I tried it and realized just how useless they were, I thought, 'what a shame, such a bad ass visual effects and such a cool concept, but they are utterly useless. Why didn't they make them temp pets like they did with Dark Extraction?' Then I respecced the character out of Photon Seekers, made a request for them to change on the Live forums, was insulted and bashed for even suggestion a change, told they were fine as is and they did not need to change, people acted like I was in the minority of the players who felt they were useless and if I felt they were useless, then I don't understand the class, basically spit on...so I have just said screw it and have not spoke on it or used that power since then. You have my support on this thread, hopefully it goes better for you here on Homecoming than it did for me on Live.

Yeah, I only have the hit rolls showing in my combat tab, I have turned everything else off, so I never noticed it.

What? I never laughed at you. What are you going on about? You said... I seem to remember taking people to tf range before the sidekick stuff came in not being nearly as fast as what I can accomplish in ae with multiple accounts in this day and age To which I replied... Yeah, me and Bill Z Bubba had a convo about that and covered that, check it out. I was referring to this post and the conversation between Bill Z Bubba and I before this post... Then you at some point said... I seem to remember taking people to tf range before the sidekick stuff came in not being nearly as fast as what I can accomplish in ae with multiple accounts in this day and age Which brings us back to square one. I am not sure how you see that as me laughing at you or not understanding or misinterpreting what you said. I answered and replied to your statement in which you indicate that I am unaware that perhaps it is true that today's PLing systems is faster than the old way, all things considered, taking in to account the double xp of today which we did not have then and taking in to account that it can be done without padding the team. So again, I am not sure what you are going on about. I think you need to relax a bit, man. I am not your enemy here.

Man...I can't talk to you when you have completely taken what I said and misinterpreted it. I suggest you read my edit in this post and get back with me. You are far too defensive for me to converse with right now until you realize where my view point is. Right now you are coming at me with the idea that I have some intentions on taking away power leveling...which even if I were, that would be a joke because I simply do not hold that kind of influence...if I hold any influence at all, which is highly doubtful.

bragger... 😞

Hell, honestly, this is the first time I have heard of Streakbreaker. When did that come out?

Yeah, me and Bill Z Bubba had a convo about that and covered that, check it out.

Honestly, I think that would be bad ass and a one of a kind. I don't think that any other game has tried that.

Love that idea! Or even a cloud of Dark Smoke.

I didn't think anyone would see it the way you do. I see it and felt there was a mistake made that should be fixed. So that's good to know.

I remember speaking with one of the Devs of WeHaveCake about a year ago I think...maybe not that long ago, my sense of time is horrible, however, if memory serves me correctly, he was saying that the cost of their server was dirt cheap...even less than 165 as mentioned above. I just remember how cheap exactly. However, I don't even want to consider that for as long as Homecoming is up and running. I have grown very fond of this server and the people in it. Including some of the Devs here.

I agree with this 100%. However, please understand (I keep repeating myself here but people seem to keep skipping those posts and are still not understanding) that I am not trying to take anything away from anybody...not now, not ever.