DR_Mechano Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Ok I'm actually kind of curious, which is the least resisted easily available to players (this rules out toxic and Hamidon special since that is truly the least resisted damage type since nothing in the game has resistances to it) damage type? My personal bet is either Fire or Negative since there are so few groups that resist that heavily. I know most people think Psi but while Psi resistance isn't common early-mid game it gets very heavily resisted at endgame with things like Robots, Rikti, Carnies, Seers etc. all having massive Psi resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Cold? Ghosts resist Dark, Demon types Fire? I think that's maybe a common thing .. If its typically not resisted, then there are some baddies which resist it heavily. If its typically resisted its more spread out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 There's a thread somewhere that I'm too lazy to search for that ended up taking all the mob resistances (and vulnerabilities) and generating an average that showed that negative was the least resisted in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've always wanted to make a dark blaster but never got around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Apparently I underestimated my boredom. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR_Mechano Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, siolfir said: Apparently I underestimated my boredom. Cheers for that link mate! I was just kind of curious to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Fire looks good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlynne Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, DR_Mechano said: Ok I'm actually kind of curious, which is the least resisted easily available to players Answer: NEGATIVE (energy that is) 2 Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverdusk Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just try to avoid banished pantheon and dark (negative) is good. I remember nightmares about being a dark defender and trying to solo banished pantheon missions back during live game. Especially those death shaman who then summon 2 more that don't even give you any exp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmySky Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hmm...I honestly thought it would be psy. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR_Mechano Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, EmmySky said: Hmm...I honestly thought it would be psy. Interesting. The problem with Psi is that when its resisted, it's HEAVILY Resisted. Rikti, Robots, Carnies, Seers and a few others all have Psi in the 80-90% range and you see a lot more Psi resistance one you get into the higher tiers and Incarnate content. By Contrast Negative is only resisted heavily by like...I think Ghosts and Banished Pantheon with all the others either being weak to it or not resisting it at all. However the advantage Psi has is that I think it's the least resisted amongst AVs with only the Clockwork King a few others that resist it heavily, most of the non-going Rogue focused stuff has very little resistance to it and makes certain EBs/AVs (like Marauder, Hero 1, Statesman etc.) a cakewalk because they hugely resist everything but Psi when they pop Unstoppable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmySky Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, DR_Mechano said: The problem with Psi is that when its resisted, it's HEAVILY Resisted. Rikti, Robots, Carnies, Seers and a few others all have Psi in the 80-90% range and you see a lot more Psi resistance one you get into the higher tiers and Incarnate content. By Contrast Negative is only resisted heavily by like...I think Ghosts and Banished Pantheon with all the others either being weak to it or not resisting it at all. However the advantage Psi has is that I think it's the least resisted amongst AVs with only the Clockwork King a few others that resist it heavily, most of the non-going Rogue focused stuff has very little resistance to it and makes certain EBs/AVs (like Marauder, Hero 1, Statesman etc.) a cakewalk because they hugely resist everything but Psi when they pop Unstoppable. This explains my personal experiences then with my psy toons. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TungstenShark Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I always thought it was Cold personally. Was surprised to see it was Negative. Good info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskool Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 9:57 AM, DR_Mechano said: The problem with Psi is that when its resisted, it's HEAVILY Resisted. Rikti, Robots, Carnies, Seers and a few others all have Psi in the 80-90% range and you see a lot more Psi resistance one you get into the higher tiers and Incarnate content. By Contrast Negative is only resisted heavily by like...I think Ghosts and Banished Pantheon with all the others either being weak to it or not resisting it at all. However the advantage Psi has is that I think it's the least resisted amongst AVs with only the Clockwork King a few others that resist it heavily, most of the non-going Rogue focused stuff has very little resistance to it and makes certain EBs/AVs (like Marauder, Hero 1, Statesman etc.) a cakewalk because they hugely resist everything but Psi when they pop Unstoppable. That's an exaggeration. The Carnies as a collective enemy type have a 20% resistance to psychic damage. Malta and Council robots have 60%. The psychic spider bots are a little less than the typical robot. The minions in those groups do not resist psi by 80% to 90%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulbasaur Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, oldskool said: That's an exaggeration. The Carnies as a collective enemy type have a 20% resistance to psychic damage. Malta and Council robots have 60%. The psychic spider bots are a little less than the typical robot. The minions in those groups do not resist psi by 80% to 90%. I didn't even realise Carnies have any. It's really not an issue... Malta robots, yeah, I get it, but it's really not the life-or-death thing that people assume. It also bypasses defence against a number of enemies, which is handy. Doctor Fortune Soulwright Mother Blight Brightwarden Storm Lantern King Solar Corona Borealis Blood Fortunado Dark/Dark Corruptor Rad/Rad Brute Gravity/Time Controller Storm/Water Defender Peacebringer Dark/Dark Tanker The Good Missions Guide: A Heroic Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Blueside Guide Easy IO Cheat Sheet The Mean Missions Guide: A Villainous Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Redside Guide Fortunatas are the Bestunatas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbuzzard Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Yeah, I don't find psi nearly as resisted as people make it out to be. Yes, council and malta robots are very resistant, but even incarnate robots are not as resistant (they are resistant, but not to the degree). When you do fight something which pops unstoppable or MOG, psi is damned handy (though somehow on my last Manticore TF, it seemed that the PP MOG now defended against psi, which isn't right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchybeast Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, drbuzzard said: (though somehow on my last Manticore TF, it seemed that the PP MOG now defended against psi, which isn't right). Somewhere on the Crey Industries forums, the Paragon Protectors are rejoicing that they finally got MOG buffed like they'd been asking for for years. 4 Reunion player, ex-Defiant. AE SFMA: Zombie Ninja Pirates! (#18051) Regeneratio delenda est! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Grouchybeast said: 1 hour ago, drbuzzard said: Yeah, I don't find psi nearly as resisted as people make it out to be. Yes, council and malta robots are very resistant, but even incarnate robots are not as resistant (they are resistant, but not to the degree). When you do fight something which pops unstoppable or MOG, psi is damned handy (though somehow on my last Manticore TF, it seemed that the PP MOG now defended against psi, which isn't right). Somewhere on the Crey Industries forums, the Paragon Protectors are rejoicing that they finally got MOG buffed like they'd been asking for for years. It slows down runs, wrecks everyone's fun, turns missions into a slog, it's way outta whack, you miss all your attacks, it's MoG, MoG, MoG! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblade Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/8/2020 at 5:03 PM, siolfir said: There's a thread somewhere that I'm too lazy to search for that ended up taking all the mob resistances (and vulnerabilities) and generating an average that showed that negative was the least resisted in the game. Yep. This was known back on live, also. That's why I took Void for my Judgement power. Originally on Infinity. I have Ironblade on every shard. - My only AE arc: The Origin of Mark IV (ID 48002) Link to the story of Toggle Man, since I keep having to track down my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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