Requesting help with Dark Armor

[DrBasics]

I don't fully understand when people say Dark Armor is one of the greatest tanker sets with the only draw backs being Endurance hungry and Knockback. Both knockback and endurance issues can be easily plugged pretty cheaply, however, all my work on Mids' shows me getting no one close to the claims of what people are saying. I hear claims like Dark Armor is able to cap resist to everything, and even defense caps too. I find that hard to believe, but some people claim to be able to do it. This is the best I can do on Mids' myself. I am not opposed to using purples, however, when I make my Mids' builds, I prefer to avoid using purples until I clock a few hours on a real (read: not test) server, playing among others, and if I enjoy it, then I will pull the trigger on purples. So if I can be a choosing beggar, I would also prefer if you avoided purples and other super expensive enhancements.

 

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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(34), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(34)
Level 1: Quick Strike -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(36), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(21)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(50), TtnCtn-ResDam(50)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(7), UnbGrd-Max HP%(7), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(9)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(A), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(46), ThfofEss-+End%(46)
Level 10: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(11), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(11), Ksm-ToHit+(13), Rct-ResDam%(13), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15)
Level 12: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(15), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17)
Level 16: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(17), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(19), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(19), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(21)
Level 18: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33)
Level 22: Weave -- GifoftheA-Def/EndRdx(A), GifoftheA-Def(23), GifoftheA-Def/Rchg(23), GifoftheA-EndRdx/Rchg(25), GifoftheA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 26: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27)
Level 28: Power Siphon -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(29), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(31), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(31), GssSynFr--Build%(33)
Level 30: Repulsing Torrent -- Ann-Acc/Dmg(A), Ann-Dmg/Rchg(36), Ann-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(37)
Level 32: Burst -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Dmg(39), Obl-Acc/Rchg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)
Level 35: Focused Burst -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Tmp-Acc/Dmg(42), Tmp-Dmg/Rchg(42), Tmp-Dmg/EndRdx(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(43)
Level 38: Concentrated Strike -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg(45), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(45), EndMod-I(48)
Level 47: Afterburner -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(48)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(3), EndMod-I(48)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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[Justaris]

Here's an example from the Dark/Staff thread a while back that may give you an idea.    Dark is in such a good position largely because it is a Resistance based set that also has a strong Defense power in Cloak of Darkness, so the foundations are there to leverage both forms of mitigation combined with one of the game's strongest heal powers in Dark Regeneration.    If you're looking specifically for Dark/KM I'll see what I can whip up for you as I have the time.   

 

 

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Inkfathom: Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam(13), RctArm-EndRdx(13), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(15), GldArm-3defTpProc(17)
Level 1: Mercurial Blow -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 2: Murky Cloud -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), RctArm-ResDam(17), RctArm-EndRdx(19), StdPrt-ResKB(19)
Level 4: Guarded Spin -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(5), Erd-Dmg(7)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam(9), RctArm-EndRdx(9), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(11)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(21), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), PrfZng-Acc/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 12: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27), Krm-ResKB(29), Rct-ResDam%(36)
Level 14: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam(29), RctArm-EndRdx(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), ImpSki-Status(31)
Level 16: Eye of the Storm -- Erd-Dmg(A), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(21), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 18: Cloak of Fear -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A)
Level 20: Staff Mastery 
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(23), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(34), LucoftheG-Def(34)
Level 24: Death Shroud -- Erd-Dmg(A), Erd-%Dam(25), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(37)
Level 26: Precise Strike -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 28: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Rchg(33), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(33), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(34), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(37)
Level 30: Serpent's Reach -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50)
Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 35: Innocuous Strikes -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(45)
Level 38: Sky Splitter -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(40), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(42)
Level 41: Soul Transfer -- AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(A)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(39), Mrc-Rcvry+(46), Prv-Absorb%(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(45), PrfShf-End%(46)
Level 1: Combo Level 1 
Level 1: Combo Level 2 
Level 1: Combo Level 3 
Level 20: Form of the Body 
Level 20: Form of the Mind 
Level 20: Form of the Soul 
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
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Edited July 15, 2020 by Justaris

[Werner]

I suspect that when most people claim 90% resists on a Dark Armor, what may go unstated but assumed is "except for energy and toxic, of course". My own Dark Armor Tanker is Martial Arts, which helps with the defense sotcaps. Then 90% to all but energy and toxic, which are 71% and 65% until you stack the ATO or start taking damage or use Barrier.

 

I consider endurance to be one of the benefits, not drawbacks of Dark Armor, at least in the endgame, due to the 86.5% resistance to debuffs. Knockback is easily handled, as you say. The primary weakness in my opinion is defense debuffs, which I plug as best I can with 55% melee defense and Barrier Core. Ageless Radial is an arguably better solution for defense debuffs, but it leaves you weaker to resistance debuffs, and doesn't let you plug the energy and toxic hole on demand.

 

Anyway, here's my build. Not Kinetic Melee, but it might be useful. It's definitely a cost-no-object build, which isn't what you want, but I'm buying my way to those good numbers.

 

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Olafur: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(5), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 2: Storm Kick -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(13)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(19), Ksm-ToHit+(19), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(21), WntGif-ResSlow(21)
Level 6: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), UnbGrd-Max HP%(25)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- FuroftheG-Acc/End/Rech(A), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(25), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(27), TchoftheN-Heal(27), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(29), ThfofEss-+End%(29)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Murky Cloud -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(31), GldArm-RechEnd(31), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(31), GldArm-ResDam(33), GldArm-3defTpProc(33)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34)
Level 16: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 18: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Rchg(37), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Arm-Dam%(37)
Level 22: Warrior's Provocation -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def(40)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 28: Focus Chi -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--Build%(42)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 35: Crippling Axe Kick -- Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hct-Acc/Rchg(45), Hct-Dmg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), AchHee-ResDeb%(48)
Level 38: Eagles Claw -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(50), TchofDth-Dam%(50)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(9)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(15), Prv-Absorb%(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(17)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
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Edited July 15, 2020 by Werner

[marcussmythe]

For the record, I agree with Werner’s choices.  While defense is -nice-, the only sets Ive met that can rely on defense at endgame provide so much DDR as to give nigh immunity to defense debuffs.  Anything less and many villain groups will make DEF a joke. (And some don’t even need debuffs. -stares in Rularuu-)

 

Also, the hole to Energy Damage is a huge problem, as by endgame, Energy (along with Psi and Toxic to lesser degrees) become hilariously common.  (Amusingly, Radiation Armor is carefully tuned to address those problems - ahh, powercreep)

 

As such, Barrier is probably the best choice for Dark, and DEF is a topping, not the meal.  Also, MArts is a star, here - Tank Marts is ludicrously good for defense.

Edited July 15, 2020 by marcussmythe

[Werner]

Yeah, it’s worth commenting further on the defense - on Dark Armor, when the going gets tough, and particularly if solo, it’s more of an alpha buster and a head start than it is actual defense. It WILL be stripped away, but if you can buy yourself 15 seconds, say, that can still make a big difference. Then Barrier buys you another 10-30 seconds. By the time that’s not propping you up, even solo at Tanker damage output, the threat should be so dramatically reduced that resists and Dark Regeneration have you covered.  And I’m talking about things like +4x8 Cimerorans and AE 801.2, not any average mobs. Team tanking +4x8, my hit points rarely move. Losing 1/3 my hit points is cause for mockery by my friends. “You took damage! Is something wrong? You feeling OK?”

 

All that said, I’m a complete newb at tanking, and I only finished the build on Friday, so I perhaps shouldn’t be acting like I know what I’m talking about. I may not have the best understanding of what’s required and how it plays, and my reports of experiences team tanking on the finished build is from literally just a few hours this weekend. I have years of experience with Dark Armor, though, just not on a Tanker.

[Tsuko]

I love my dark martial tanker 🙂

 

 

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Bishop of Pride: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(3), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dam%(7)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-ResDam(9), GldArm-End/Res(9), GldArm-RechRes(11), GldArm-RechEnd(11), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(13)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(19)
Level 6: Storm Kick -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(21), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 8: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(33)
Level 10: Dark Regeneration -- TchoftheN-%Dam(A), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), TchoftheN-Heal(25), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(27), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(27), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(29)
Level 12: Warrior's Provocation -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rng(A)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def(29), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), ShlWal-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 18: Fly -- Frb-Stlth(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(37), Frb-Fly(37)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- Arm-Acc/Rchg(A), Arm-Dmg(34), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Dam%(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(34)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- Rct-ResDam%(A), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39)
Level 26: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 28: Afterburner -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 35: Crippling Axe Kick -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Hct-Dmg(42), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(42), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Hct-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 41: Gloom -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(46), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Darkest Night -- DmpSpr-ToHitDeb(A), DmpSpr-Rchg/EndRdx(50), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(50), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- PndSlg-Stun%(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Heal-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Prv-Absorb%(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Paralytic Radial Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Knives of Vengeance Total Radial Improved Ally 
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[Sovera]

DA/MA can reach 90% to all except its holes, and then 45% melee, ranged, and AoE.. DA by itself can reach the 90% to all except holes and still 45% to smash/lethal and melee.

 

But what makes DA one of the strongest is the heal. 66% HP every 10-13 seconds makes it near unkillable.

[Tsuko]

2 minutes ago, Sovera said:

DA/MA can reach 90% to all except its holes, and then 45% melee, ranged, and AoE.. DA by itself can reach the 90% to all except holes and still 45% to smash/lethal and melee.

 

But what makes DA one of the strongest is the heal. 66% HP every 10-13 seconds makes it near unkillable.

and the KB prot to manage (or not :p)

[Duck-Smokes-Quack]

7 hours ago, Werner said:

 

 

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Olafur: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(5), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(7)
Level 2: Storm Kick -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(13)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(19), Ksm-ToHit+(19), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(21), WntGif-ResSlow(21)
Level 6: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), UnbGrd-Max HP%(25)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- FuroftheG-Acc/End/Rech(A), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(25), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(27), TchoftheN-Heal(27), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(29), ThfofEss-+End%(29)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Murky Cloud -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(31), GldArm-RechEnd(31), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(31), GldArm-ResDam(33), GldArm-3defTpProc(33)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34)
Level 16: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 18: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Rchg(37), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Arm-Dam%(37)
Level 22: Warrior's Provocation -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def(40)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 28: Focus Chi -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--Build%(42)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 35: Crippling Axe Kick -- Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hct-Acc/Rchg(45), Hct-Dmg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Dam%(46), AchHee-ResDeb%(48)
Level 38: Eagles Claw -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(50), TchofDth-Dam%(50)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(9)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(15), Prv-Absorb%(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(17)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
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Hold hell that build is juicy @Werner bet it plays like a beast!
 

• Stacking stuns from OG and /MA
• Build up with FC followed by a second mini build up when going EC > DT (CAK ST)
• Do it not run into end trouble? (I know you love to solo - ive seen your solo MoITF +4 thread, gz)
• The slotting for -slow resist is incredible. When testing on the beta server i very, very quickly realized "holy shit im unkillable on Dark/) The only i enocountered where i thought I may actually die were anything with -rech leaving me unable to Dark Regen - that 80% figure you managed to achieve is magnificant im deinantly going to have to look at adding that into my Dark/Ice build
• Finally more of a comment than a question but holy is /MA strong on tanks! makes the +def from weapon sets seem pathetic in comparison 

[Werner]

5 minutes ago, Duck-Smokes-Quack said:

Do it not run into end trouble? (I know you love to solo - ive seen your solo MoITF +4 thread, gz)

None whatsoever. I think I used Conserve Power once and didn’t really need to even then. It’s just there for safety, and to get me into Physical Perfection.

7 minutes ago, Duck-Smokes-Quack said:

holy is /MA strong on tanks! makes the +def from weapon sets seem pathetic in comparison 

It’s strong, but I’m not sure I’d call it stronger than the weapon sets since it’s unenhanceable and doesn’t stack. Katana, say, could make you mostly immune to melee/lethal defense debuffs, which tend to be the most common. But I wanted to try something new. I’ll probably be fiddling with Katana builds, though. If I can significantly improve on my DPS, I might convince myself to switch. 

16 minutes ago, Duck-Smokes-Quack said:

Build up with FC followed by a second mini build up when going EC > DT (CAK ST)

Plus the Gaussian proc, which fires off pretty reliably. Where I was happiest to have it was fighting against uber defense. With +84% to hit for five seconds you can pretty much hit anything a few times every cycle, so you aren’t merely twiddling your thumbs waiting for defensive powers to expire. Maybe not that helpful objectively, but it’s more fun than waiting, and fun matters too.

18 minutes ago, Duck-Smokes-Quack said:

bet it plays like a beast!

It does. Very fun. He might be my new main. Time will tell, but right now I don’t want to play anything else. 🙂

[Cutter]

Man I love Dark Armour theorycrafting!

 

Just rejigged my DA/Elec/Presence Feartanker build based on this thread, to squeeze in some slow/rech resistance. Only hitting 30% tho, and I don't see where to get more without sacrificing -KB (I like being at 12) or making my Energy hole bigger. I'd welcome suggestions and recommendations, on the slow piece or just the build in general.

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Crimson Shroud: Level 50 Technology Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Flight

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(A), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(3), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(5), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(33), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(37)
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(15), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(21)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(46)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), UnbGrd-ResDam(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(19), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(45), GldArm-3defTpProc(50)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), UnbGrd-ResDam(46)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(36), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(45)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- Krm-ResKB(A), Ksm-ToHit+(11), Rct-ResDam%(40)
Level 12: Cloak of Darkness -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), ShlWal-Def(27), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33)
Level 14: Provoke -- Acc-I(A)
Level 16: Thunder Strike -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Dam%(31), Arm-Acc/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Cloak of Fear -- UnsTrr-Acc/EndRdx(A), UnsTrr-EndRdx/Fear(19), UnsTrr-Acc/Rchg(25), UnsTrr-Stun%(34), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(46)
Level 20: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 22: Havoc Punch -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Hct-Acc/Rchg(23), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Hct-Dam%(34)
Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- RzzDzz-Immob%(A)
Level 28: Chain Induction -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(36)
Level 30: Intimidate -- UnsTrr-Acc/Rchg(A), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(42), UnsTrr-EndRdx/Fear(48)
Level 32: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-ResDam(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(43)
Level 35: Invoke Panic -- UnsTrr-Acc/Rchg(A), UnsTrr-Acc/EndRdx(36), UnsTrr-Acc/Fear/Rchg(42), UnsTrr-EndRdx/Fear(42), UnsTrr-Stun%(50)
Level 38: Lightning Rod -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(40)
Level 41: Soul Transfer -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 44: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Unrelenting -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(9)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9)
Level 50: Control Radial Embodiment
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Vigor Radial Paragon
Level 50: Spectral Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Storm Elemental Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
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[Tsuko]

On 7/15/2020 at 6:57 PM, Werner said:

None whatsoever. I think I used Conserve Power once and didn’t really need to even then. It’s just there for safety, and to get me into Physical Perfection.

It’s strong, but I’m not sure I’d call it stronger than the weapon sets since it’s unenhanceable and doesn’t stack. Katana, say, could make you mostly immune to melee/lethal defense debuffs, which tend to be the most common. But I wanted to try something new. I’ll probably be fiddling with Katana builds, though. If I can significantly improve on my DPS, I might convince myself to switch. 

Plus the Gaussian proc, which fires off pretty reliably. Where I was happiest to have it was fighting against uber defense. With +84% to hit for five seconds you can pretty much hit anything a few times every cycle, so you aren’t merely twiddling your thumbs waiting for defensive powers to expire. Maybe not that helpful objectively, but it’s more fun than waiting, and fun matters too.

It does. Very fun. He might be my new main. Time will tell, but right now I don’t want to play anything else. 🙂

i tried hard to improve my build based on yours (tohit and recharge resistance are sexy).

 

i have to admit that after 6 versions, "my" build looks a lot like yours now lol

i have just add crane kick for some juicy dmg buff and FF recharge, playing well with eagle claw mechanic.

 

thank a lot for your charing, i enjoy a lot more my beloved Tanker now 😛

 

 

 

 

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Bishop: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Experimentation
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(3), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(7)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-ResDam(9), GldArm-End/Res(11), GldArm-RechRes(11), GldArm-RechEnd(13), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(13)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), UnbGrd-ResDam(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21)
Level 6: Storm Kick -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(23)
Level 8: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(25)
Level 10: Dark Regeneration -- TchoftheN-%Dam(A), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), TchoftheN-Heal(27), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(27), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(29), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(29)
Level 12: Warrior's Provocation -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rng(A)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33), ShlWal-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 18: Speed of Sound -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- Arm-Acc/Rchg(A), Arm-Dmg(36), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Dam%(37), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 22: Crane Kick -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- Rct-ResDam%(A), ShlWal-Def(34), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(34), ShlWal-EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 28: Focus Chi -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--ToHit(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(42), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(42), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Kick -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Tough -- StdPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 35: Crippling Axe Kick -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Hct-Dmg(43), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(45), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Hct-Acc/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Eagles Claw -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(46), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 41: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/Rchg(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 44: Focused Accuracy -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(50), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Heal-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(17)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Paralytic Radial Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement 
Level 50: Knives of Vengeance Total Radial Improved Ally 
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany 
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Edited July 17, 2020 by Tsuko

[Tsuko]

On 7/15/2020 at 6:57 PM, Werner said:

None whatsoever. I think I used Conserve Power once and didn’t really need to even then. It’s just there for safety, and to get me into Physical Perfection.

It’s strong, but I’m not sure I’d call it stronger than the weapon sets since it’s unenhanceable and doesn’t stack. Katana, say, could make you mostly immune to melee/lethal defense debuffs, which tend to be the most common. But I wanted to try something new. I’ll probably be fiddling with Katana builds, though. If I can significantly improve on my DPS, I might convince myself to switch. 

Plus the Gaussian proc, which fires off pretty reliably. Where I was happiest to have it was fighting against uber defense. With +84% to hit for five seconds you can pretty much hit anything a few times every cycle, so you aren’t merely twiddling your thumbs waiting for defensive powers to expire. Maybe not that helpful objectively, but it’s more fun than waiting, and fun matters too.

It does. Very fun. He might be my new main. Time will tell, but right now I don’t want to play anything else. 🙂

If you didnt know (or think), here a way to max recharge debuff resist 🙂

 

 

Base buff also have a 20% resist 🙂

Edited July 17, 2020 by Tsuko

[DrBasics]

Hey these are all great replies, however, it seems like (emphasis on the word "seems") dark armor isn't good until you spend a lot of influence (infamy) on the build. Am I right or am I off? I am stumped on this power set.

[Omega-202]

24 minutes ago, DrBasics said:

Hey these are all great replies, however, it seems like (emphasis on the word "seems") dark armor isn't good until you spend a lot of influence (infamy) on the build. Am I right or am I off? I am stumped on this power set.

Its a good set, but you're not hitting all of the caps you're talking about in your OP without an investment.  That goes for all of the top tier builds that promote pie-in-the-sky benchmarks.    

 

When you see "Defense Capped Blaster" or "Tankmage Corruptor" or "Res/Def capped Dark Tank" etc builds, they're all going to be stacking purples, ATOs, Gamblers, unique Def/Res IOs etc.  

 

Not sure what you expected.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Omega-202

[DrBasics]

4 minutes ago, Omega-202 said:

Its a good set, but you're not hitting all of the caps you're talking about in your OP without an investment.  That goes for all of the top tier builds that promote pie-in-the-sky benchmarks.    

 

When you see "Defense Capped Blaster" or "Tankmage Corruptor" or "Res/Def capped Dark Tank" etc builds, they're all going to be stacking purples, ATOs, Gamblers, unique Def/Res IOs etc.  

 

Not sure what you expected.

In my original post, the build I posted had ATOs, gamblers, unique def/res PVP IOs. The only thing it doesn't have is purples. I am asking if adding in purples has that much of an effect on Dark Armor, and if so, does it require purples in every power?

 

Quote

Not sure what you expected.

Are you having a bad day?

[Omega-202]

6 minutes ago, DrBasics said:

In my original post, the build I posted had ATOs, gamblers, unique def/res PVP IOs. The only thing it doesn't have is purples. I am asking if adding in purples has that much of an effect on Dark Armor, and if so, does it require purples in every power?

 

Are you having a bad day?

Just confirming your suspicions that, yes, you need some more investment than what you're giving it.  I'm doing fine, how are you?  

 

Take a look at what you're missing in your build and take a look at what some of the purples would give you.  There's a lot of Fire/Cold res and defense everywhere, Smash/Lethal defense in Blistering Cold and Psi defense all around to be gained that you're otherwise not getting.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Omega-202
Had the wrong melee purp set

[Werner]

7 hours ago, DrBasics said:

Hey these are all great replies, however, it seems like (emphasis on the word "seems") dark armor isn't good until you spend a lot of influence (infamy) on the build. Am I right or am I off? I am stumped on this power set.

Purples mostly add recharge and fire/cold/toxic/psionic resistance. Recharge is nice, but Dark Armor doesn't live and die by it. Fire and cold are relatively rare in comparison to more "popular" types, so not as critical to cap. Psionic is easy to get in other ways. You're going to have a toxic hole regardless. So one could argue that the purples aren't doing much for you in practice. The numbers look good and help give you bragging rights, but as far as the practical effect, I'd say it's pretty situational. I have a purple and a half, not a build filled with them. I think you can make do without purples. And it's not like you get no bonuses when you give them up. You get other bonuses.

 

Dark Armor does benefit significantly from investment though, yes. It doesn't suck without, but it really comes into its own with investment and incarnate powers.

[Nemu]

19 hours ago, DrBasics said:

Hey these are all great replies, however, it seems like (emphasis on the word "seems") dark armor isn't good until you spend a lot of influence (infamy) on the build. Am I right or am I off? I am stumped on this power set.

Yup, as with all other builds, you gotta pay to win. DA on SOs is painful and an exercise of sheer willpower. With Dark armor it's more like pay to get your endurance under control, then pay again to be less squishy.

 

Here is a semi budget endgame build, no purples, no winters, no ATOs, but a few essential PVP IOs. It'll do ok, until you face things that slow you.

 

Don't skip your early attacks, without them you don't have an attack chain.

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(5)
Level 1: Quick Strike -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(7), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), TchofDth-Dam%(36)
Level 2: Body Blow -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Dam%(37), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 4: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(5)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33)
Level 8: Smashing Blow -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mk'Bit-Dam%(15)
Level 10: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 12: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13), LucoftheG-Def(13)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(15), LucoftheG-Def(43)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(19), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(21), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(21), Mlt-Acc/EndRdx(23), ThfofEss-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 18: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Power Siphon -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), UnbGrd-ResDam(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(25), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), Rct-ResDam%(27)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- RopADop-Acc/Stun(A)
Level 28: Burst -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(29), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Obl-%Dam(31)
Level 30: Death Shroud -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Mlt-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 32: Taunt -- Range-I(A)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Concentrated Strike -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mk'Bit-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 44: Energy Torrent -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(45), Artl-Dam/Rech(45), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(45), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(46), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(46)
Level 47: Focused Burst -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Cloak of Fear -- EndRdx-I(A), SphIns-%ToHit(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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And since everyone is posting their DA/MA builds here I'll throw mine in as well:

 

OMG no body mastery!!! Sacrilege...

 

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Karate Panda: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), UnbGrd-Max HP%(19), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Storm Kick -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), KntCmb-Knock%(9), HO:Nucle(9)
Level 4: Cobra Strike -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(7)
Level 6: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(29)
Level 8: Murky Cloud -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam(13), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Ags-Psi/Status(42)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(11), StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(19)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(34)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(15), ShlWal-Def(15), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(17)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(46)
Level 18: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Erd-%Dam(23), Erd-Dmg(29), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 22: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(23), GldArm-ResDam(27)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(25), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), Rct-ResDam%(27)
Level 26: Cloak of Fear -- CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(31), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(33)
Level 28: Focus Chi -- HO:Membr(A)
Level 30: Death Shroud -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(31), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 32: Warrior's Provocation -- Range-I(A)
Level 35: Crippling Axe Kick -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(37)
Level 38: Eagles Claw -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Stone Prison -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(43)
Level 44: Fossilize -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(45), SprEnt-End/Rchg(45), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(45), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(46), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(46)
Level 47: Stalagmites -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Rgn-Knock%(50)
Level 49: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Support Core Embodiment
Level 50: Spectral Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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[ClawsandEffect]

In my experience, Dark Armor is potentially the most well rounded Tanker primary with the possible exception of Rad Armor. 

 

However, it takes a lot more investment than other sets to get it there. 

[Hjarki]

2 hours ago, ClawsandEffect said:

In my experience, Dark Armor is potentially the most well rounded Tanker primary with the possible exception of Rad Armor. 

Unfortunately, it's the wrong kind of 'well-rounded'. Radiation has a Cold hole. Dark has an Energy hole - which is crippling since a large chunk of high-level ends are Energy damage.

[Sovera]

1 hour ago, Hjarki said:

Unfortunately, it's the wrong kind of 'well-rounded'. Radiation has a Cold hole. Dark has an Energy hole - which is crippling since a large chunk of high-level ends are Energy damage.

Energy can be pushed to 90% though. So it stops being a hole.