"Coooooool. As long as it isn't another Jared Leto Joker movie."

[CrudeVileTerror]

So.

I was doing a pick-up for work today, and drove to a local food wholesale warehouse that rents their space in an old train station that was bought by a major union and converted in to a convention centre.

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Liuna+Station/@43.2655146,-79.8640018,213m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x28642608e133e837!8m2!3d43.265706!4d-79.864329

 

As I came around the corner, I saw this:

Apparently they're filming a little something something there tomorrow.

 

When I sent a photo of this to my spouse, the reply I received was what I posted as this thread's title.

[Mr. Vee]

Leto is supposedly doing Snyder JL scene shoots. But could be for the new movie.

[Frostbiter]

5 hours ago, Veelectric Boogaloo said:

Leto is supposedly doing Snyder JL scene shoots. But could be for the new movie.

Knowing Snyder it's for the extended director's cut of JL. Now with more blue-washed scenes, more red-washed scenes, more 'splosions and less expose than ever!

 

P.S. Leto's Joker is god awful.

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by Frostbiter

[Luminara]

Could also be that Batman reboot with the Twilight kid.

[Frostbiter]

2 hours ago, Luminara said:

Could also be that Batman reboot with the Twilight kid.

That would be my real guess too. I'm probably going to pass on it until I can watch it for free. Just not a fan of Snyder or the casting so far.

[Luminara]

6 minutes ago, Frostbiter said:

That would be my real guess too. I'm probably going to pass on it until I can watch it for free. Just not a fan of Snyder or the casting so far.

 

Snyder, the casting choices, the implied tone and direction of the story, the writing in the JL material thus far, et fucking cetera.

 

*cough*

 

Warner Brothers is hurting my soul.

[Mr. Vee]

I love that the internet somehow became convinced that JL was only bad because it was taken away from the director of the much worse BvS.

[Frostbiter]

Oh no, JL was bad for reasons of it's own. I mean, Steppenwolf instead of Darkseid? Who decided that? Steppenwolf cannot carry the climax of a film as all of us so obviously saw.

 

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by Frostbiter

[Luminara]

24 minutes ago, Veelectric Boogaloo said:

I love that the internet somehow became convinced that JL was only bad because it was taken away from the director of the much worse BvS.

 

It was bad because it was written badly, and it had to be written badly because it was a sequel to an even more badly written film, and the bad writing couldn't be unwritten without a complete reboot (Flashpoint).  It was bad because it portrayed Aquaman as a litter bug, thief and pig.  It was bad because it continued the portrayal of Batman being near the end of his run as Batman.  It was bad because the villain was poorly chosen, unimpressive and overly annoying.

 

The fact that Whedon couldn't save it, despite rewrites and reshoots, is the most impressive thing about the movie.

 

Sorry.  Not attacking you, the movie just... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[Mr. Vee]

Oh i get that it was bad, for all the reasons you've said and then some. i just was commenting on the whole 'release the snyder cut' meme gaining enough momentum that WB decided to throw more money at doing just that, despite the dumpster fire that was BvS. 

[Frostbiter]

The Director's Cut of BvS was marginally better. It had Clark Kent at least being a reporter in it. It was merely a trashcan fire instead of a dumpster fire. Still the worst versions of so many characters ever.

[Luminara]

27 minutes ago, Frostbiter said:

The Director's Cut of BvS was marginally better.

 

It's the only version I've watched, and it still made me want to reach into the past and punch everyone involved.  In the groin.  With a lead weight.  Studded.

 

The plot in that was actually worse than the plot in JL.  They wrote the end, then tried to write the rest of the movie from that point, working backwards, creating massive leaps of logic and plot holes that you could fly both Ego and Mogo through, side by side.

 

I loved the WW intro.  I loathed everything else.

 

Frankly, if the director's cut of JL is in any way more like BvS...  You could tell that Ezra Miller's dialog was Whedon's work, it was decent and the character was actually good, if underused.  Ray Fisher did well, too, and there was definitely some Whedon there.  So I fully expect those to be ripped out and replaced, and that's going to be the death knell.  

 

My soul, Warner!  MY SOUL IS BLEEDING!  STOP IT!

 

Why can't they just use the animation team to do the writing and directing?  They've done some fine work, and even their stinkers have been better than BvS or JL.

 

Except that one with Brainiac.

 

No, not the one voiced by John Noble, Matt Bomer and Stana Katic.  The other one.  The one we don't talk about.  *twitch*

 

[Frostbiter]

I didn't say it was good. 😛

 

[Techwright]

On 10/29/2020 at 1:52 PM, Krimson said:

So even though Darkseid is a Jack Kirby creation, had DC used him, he would have been considered a rip off of Thanos, because the direction of the flow of time apparently means nothing. 

You say that like it's something new.  Let us speak of "Captain Marvel".

[Hyperstrike]

On 10/29/2020 at 12:52 PM, Krimson said:

He was told no because Elric is too much like Witcher....

...

...

The primal screaming in my head.
It won't stop.
IT...
WON'T...
STOP!!!

[CrudeVileTerror]

"Crowded market space."  The execs don't care who came first; they care that if they try to put money in to a project which random viewers might say "that's a ripoff," no matter how incorrect or uneducated that observation may be, then the execs won't get their precious, precious return on investment.

However, if the Witcher show does well enough or if a desperate-enough producer is given the pitch, even with things being "crowded," they'll probably jump on the perceived bootleg gravy-train.

 

So I guess the answer is:  Write to the author and recommend that they try to pitch their book series to a "lesser" producer.

[Darmian]

JL was crap.  And some of that crap was Whedon.  Love Buffy back in the day but the whedonfest love-in needs to die. BVS was misjudged and weirdly written, and yet...in some mad operatic way, it had something, though that might just be Gal Gadot revving her engines for the great WW that then appeared.

 

Worst. Absolute worst DC supers movie for me recently?  Joker. A truly awful film built around a good performance.

[ThrillMill]

On 11/15/2020 at 8:32 AM, Darmian said:

JL was crap.  And some of that crap was Whedon.  Love Buffy back in the day but the whedonfest love-in needs to die. BVS was misjudged and weirdly written, and yet...in some mad operatic way, it had something, though that might just be Gal Gadot revving her engines for the great WW that then appeared.

 

Worst. Absolute worst DC supers movie for me recently?  Joker. A truly awful film built around a good performance.

Really? It was far and away better than anything outside of the Nolan's TDK in my opinion. And a fine stand-alone movie in it's own right.  

[Darmian]

24 minutes ago, ThrillMill said:

Really? It was far and away better than anything outside of the Nolan's TDK in my opinion. And a fine stand-alone movie in it's own right.  

Nope.  Seen it all before and better.  Hell, De Niro starred in one of those. Watch "The King of Comedy".

 

Conversely I 'm glad Joker was a success because it keeps the door open for other standalone and alternate looks at things.

[CrudeVileTerror]

Yeah, Joke was a series of homages to some really great films.   Quite a few people felt that watching the films it homaged were the better experiences, and if someone hasn't seen those films yet, then it would be worthwhile to make the time.

[ThrillMill]

We all stand on the back of giants, no? 

[CrudeVileTerror]

Well, the prevailing criticism that I've seen is that Joker was less of a unique experience, and more of a mish-mash of art and I.P.s.

 

So, less standing on the back of giants, and more just pointing to the giants and saying:

[Darmian]

2 hours ago, ThrillMill said:

We all stand on the back of giants, no? 

Yes but some use that vantage point to reach further rather than look down.

[Haijinx]

On 10/29/2020 at 1:52 PM, Krimson said:

So my favorite author is Michael Moorcock. Recently he tried to see if he could get his creation, Elric of Melnibone, optioned for television. He was told no because Elric is too much like Witcher.... Let that sink in. Witcher not only "borrows" from Elric's look, he outright rips off the nickname "White Wolf". Elric was created in 1961 and the only video games that existed were on an oscilloscope.

 

So even though Darkseid is a Jack Kirby creation, had DC used him, he would have been considered a rip off of Thanos, because the direction of the flow of time apparently means nothing. 

wow 

 

Also other than the hair color and the stolen nickname the characters are not really alike.

 

Nor are the storylines, universes, mythos, anything.   

[Haijinx]

where does Batwoman film?