Weave not providing toxic defense

[Uun]

We didn't use to have toxic defense. Now we do. Weave is supposed to be +Defense (All). It isn't providing toxic defense. Other Defense (All) powers , such as Combat Jumping, are.

[Bopper]

It's probably an oversight but I wouldn't worry too much. There are about 21 critter powers in the game that carry the toxic attack tag, and you are likely going to have a higher defense on whatever other attack tag it's paired with.

[JayboH]

Still, good catch

[SwitchFade]

Weave also doesn't provide defense against spouse.

 

Clearly NOT defense against all.

[carroto]

On 7/13/2021 at 7:02 PM, Bopper said:

It's probably an oversight but I wouldn't worry too much. There are about 21 critter powers in the game that carry the toxic attack tag, and you are likely going to have a higher defense on whatever other attack tag it's paired with.

 

Not my experience playing Ice Armor against the pure toxic spewing AV in the Halloween haunted mansion event.  Yes I remember.  NEVER FORGET!

 

Also Arachnoids.

[SuggestorK]

While it may not many Critter Powers they still have their numbers and can hurt much.. try to fight Vahz .....

[Bopper]

42 minutes ago, SuggestorK said:

While it may not many Critter Powers they still have their numbers and can hurt much.. try to fight Vahz .....

If you're talking about the Vahz-Vapor, that is not tagged as Toxic Attack, it is only tagged as AoE Attack

[SuggestorK]

On 7/16/2021 at 5:51 PM, Bopper said:

If you're talking about the Vahz-Vapor, that is not tagged as Toxic Attack, it is only tagged as AoE Attack

I talk about the Vomit the Vahz Zombies spit at you.

[Bopper]

8 minutes ago, SuggestorK said:

I talk about the Vomit the Vahz Zombies spit at you.

Those should all be flagged as Ranged Attacks (no Toxic flags)

Edited July 18, 2021 by Bopper

[SwitchFade]

8 hours ago, Bopper said:

Those should all be flagged as Ranged Attacks (no Toxic flags)

Hmm. I thought one of the very dangerous things about Vahz was the toxic type. Don't they do toxic typed damage? I recall this is why they hit so hard and everyone avoided them from 1-20

[Bopper]

49 minutes ago, SwitchFade said:

Hmm. I thought one of the very dangerous things about Vahz was the toxic type. Don't they do toxic typed damage? I recall this is why they hit so hard and everyone avoided them from 1-20

They do pure toxic damage, so if you lack toxic resistance it will hurt for that reason. But you could have 100% toxic defense and it won't matter as only your ranged defense will be checked.

[Uun]

21 hours ago, Bopper said:

They do pure toxic damage, so if you lack toxic resistance it will hurt for that reason. But you could have 100% toxic defense and it won't matter as only your ranged defense will be checked.

The toxic damage attacks originally didn't check against toxic defense because it didn't exist. What was the point of adding toxic defense to the game if they weren't going to update the toxic damage attacks to check against it?

[Bopper]

3 minutes ago, Uun said:

The toxic damage attacks originally didn't check against toxic defense because it didn't exist. What was the point of adding toxic defense to the game if they weren't going to update the toxic damage attacks to check against it?

It takes time to manually add that to every attack in the game. Plus a lot of toxic damage comes from secondary effects in the form of DoTs, so it's not as simple as a find/replace, you need to manually look at each power and see what makes sense as Toxic and what doesn't. 

[TheZag]

Its possible that toxic defense was added to be used with some future content instead of current content.  It wouldnt be the first time a system was put in place in a game with future plans to utilize it.  Also if those plans get scrapped and it isnt removed then that wouldnt be the first time for a game either.