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Electrical Blast....so many questions


Snarky

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If you're only playing at range and avoiding Blaster 2ndary melee attacks, I'd consider Elec/Bio sentinel.  It's probably the only Sentinel that approaches mid-range Blaster damage and it plays (almost) entirely at range.  In my build below you could swap out Mind Probe for a non-melee attack or just keep it as a set mule.   It has a decent ST-chain, the AOE (Ball) is up a lot, and nuke is fast recharge - just has that annoying 10-target sentinel cap and no Build Up, but Bio's +dmg helps. 

 

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.....I am seriously thinking of redoing this entire project as water.  I never take water because it is "off concept" but I am pretty far from my regular concepts.  Is Water a better set for this than Electric?

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2 hours ago, Snarky said:

.....I am seriously thinking of redoing this entire project as water.  I never take water because it is "off concept" but I am pretty far from my regular concepts.  Is Water a better set for this than Electric?

Water will be marginally better at AoE, worse at S/T, and better at mitigation. If you are at all worried about S/T damage though, please add Beam to the list for consideration.

 

Looks like I have a Blaster of every primary except Electric, Ice, Psychic, and Sonic (2 with Beam, 2 with Fire)... have all of the above on Corruptors/Defenders (and half a dozen of those with Ice Blast), but all this Blaster talk makes me want to finish the job 🙂

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2 hours ago, arcane said:

Water will be marginally better at AoE, worse at S/T, and better at mitigation. If you are at all worried about S/T damage though, please add Beam to the list for consideration.

 

Looks like I have a Blaster of every primary except Electric, Ice, Psychic, and Sonic (2 with Beam, 2 with Fire)... have all of the above on Corruptors/Defenders (and half a dozen of those with Ice Blast), but all this Blaster talk makes me want to finish the job 🙂

I am thinking beam might be the best. I hate disappearing weapons and dislike weapons in general. But i have a Alien concept….kind of a cros. Between Marvin the Martian and Cryptosporidium from “Kill All Humans” franchise.   Could work for this odd all.  Works for the secondary and the force fields and the stealth conceptually.  Too Bad we cant shoot the incarnate judgement from the gun lol

 

i will poke around in MiDs

 

I love my Ice/Ice/Cold Blaster.  Which is high praise from me to any Blaster.  Powerful definitely but i tend to dislike a lot of Blaster things. Although the Ice/Cold Corruptor….danged that steps the game into next level stuff

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On 7/22/2021 at 7:09 AM, arcane said:

Ok well @Snarky lemme correct the record and state that Electric Blaster damage only does more damage than an Electric Sentinel if both are reasonably built for damage, and your specific build was not vetted for where it falls on the spectrum of survivability vs damage. Good now?

 

EDIT 1: I see what you mean Nemu. An awful lot of defensive sets of 6. Not many procs. I wouldn’t build it that way. But then, if Snarky would, who’s to say he’d build a Sentinel as offensively as we would. Shrug.

 

EDIT 2: I think I only saw one tiny damage proc. Snarky, are things ok at home buddy?

You would hate ALL my builds.  I only throw in a damage Proc rarely, usually if it is a set I need the 6th place to get set bonuses. Sometimes in a 5 set when the other enhancer is already over covered by the build. For like a Nuke sometimes a damage PROC or if I want Nuke w/ Knockdown.  I love set builds.  Always have.  And no, my Sentinels are not PROC;d out.  They are built for.....armor and then whatever.  I built Brutes for years and Brutes do not need damage procs as much.  As I built them I started to learn every crook (redside nook) and cranny of how to mesh set bonuses together to do very odd things and create builds that operate in a totally different way than the original Devs ever would have wanted, I think.  

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8 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said:

Tsk, tsk.  Come on you know running water and vampires don't mix, that's why Ice works and Water doesn't.

Yeah, I am building way outside vampire territory here.  My main themes in CoV have been robots, undead, and demons.  Thinking either a water demon or a steampunk robot lol.

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12 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Yeah, I am building way outside vampire territory here.  My main themes in CoV have been robots, undead, and demons.  Thinking either a water demon or a steampunk robot lol.

turn the water blood red and see how you feel.

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Prismatic Monkey - Seismic / Martial Blaster, Shadow Dragon Monkey - Staff / Dark Brute, Murder Robot Monkey - Arachnos Night Widow

 

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Just now, Shred Monkey said:

turn the water blood red and see how you feel.

...why would a vampire use precious blood to endlessly spray enemies...?  Okay, if blood is power and coalescing it into force was possible I could maybe see doing it in a pinch....But where the F does all the blood come from?  Either the vampire has a extradimensional hole inside them and is basically a multidimensional tick or IL&M is following them around making a gore fest worthy of a Hammer film....

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14 minutes ago, Snarky said:

...why would a vampire use precious blood to endlessly spray enemies...?  Okay, if blood is power and coalescing it into force was possible I could maybe see doing it in a pinch....But where the F does all the blood come from?  Either the vampire has a extradimensional hole inside them and is basically a multidimensional tick or IL&M is following them around making a gore fest worthy of a Hammer film....

And water manipulation is much more logical.

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Prismatic Monkey - Seismic / Martial Blaster, Shadow Dragon Monkey - Staff / Dark Brute, Murder Robot Monkey - Arachnos Night Widow

 

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2 hours ago, Shred Monkey said:

And water manipulation is much more logical.

there is a water manipulation set? or you mean just in general, the super ability to manipulate water?  With a Steampunk robot built by a Time Lord (Water/Temporal) or a Demon from the outer planes I can write for that.  A vampire throwing around torrents of blood like the hallway scene from the shining....maybe...? But then why is some of the blood hot or cold.  Extreme ability to manipulate the substance.  It just causes me to write further and further down a spiraling smaller wormhole I feel.  whereas with a Demon... Power over water.  Power over time.  boom.  done.  Robot, take it one step back to the creator designing it to have power over water and the creator being a time lord and using that tech to build the machine.  Just so many steps back to fit a blood theme onto water for me.

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On 7/21/2021 at 2:34 PM, Snarky said:

I am trying to stand up a viable (and actually strong) fully ranged Electrical Blast character.

 

It seems to me Blaster AoE vs, say Sentinel is off the hook.  Hands down winner

 

Surprisingly I find that Sentinel ST damage seems to WAY outpace Blaster.  

 

I have not examined Corruptor...or Dom, or any other.

 

Can I get some feedback on what is really good and what is....something to be aware of?   Thanks.

I have both an Elec/Elec/Elec Sentinel and a Elec/NRG/Elec blaster and although I sort of agree with you on the ST v AOE. Blaster single target felt pretty weak until I procced out Tesla Cage and Shocking Bolt, and now it’s one of my favourite characters. 
 

I love the Sentinel version too, but not really for the damage, just for the sheer fun factor. He’s a tanky sapper and pure pest. 

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1 hour ago, Galaxy Brain said:

 

 

;D 

 

My elec/regen sentinel actually abuses PT procs and EC procs to be pretty unkillable. It takes A LOT to take me down. Plus PT has really decent +damage and +endmod, so you can really do a lot of nifty things with it. I definitely enjoy that villain.

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1 hour ago, Galaxy Brain said:

 

 

;D 

I made something like this because of your post. Elec/Dark, has at least both heal procs in Zapping Bolt and Tesla Cage. I think maybe Power Transfer in Ball Lightning or something too.

 

Not a huge difference but its fun to see a constant stream of little green numbers.

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