drgantz Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 Is Dark Blaster or Dark Manip better with other Primaries or Secondaries? Is Dark/Dark good together? I want Dark/Dark because I think that would be good for a crow themed character. I'm thinking of Blaster or maybe a melee AT.
DarknessEternal Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 No, pretty low damage, pretty low utility. 1 1
Wintercat Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 Maybe not optimal, but damn entertaining. The substitute for build up in /dark (name escapes me atm) gives a potentially huge damage buff that lasts longer (30 seconds or so). I have a dark/dark blaster and an archery/dark blaster. Both are great fun, and I can imagine pistols/dark would be good combo as well. 1
Without_Pause Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 6 hours ago, DarknessEternal said: No, pretty low damage, pretty low utility. -tohit to help make sure you aren't hit. 2 heals to make sure you are up. An AoE KB power which can be turned into KD if need be. AoE Immobilization power to keep things in place. 3 mezzes. 2 ways to recover end. The best player damage buff in the game. But yeah, outside of that the utility is pretty mediocre. Dark's damage is rather DoT based at times and in the meta game of speed I can see why it might come across as lacking, but I don't think Dark's damage is actually that bad. It is also lightly if not the least resisted. 2 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Uun Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 Darkness Manipulation is mostly a blapper set. It's got 3 melee attacks, a PBAoE damage aura, the damage buff (tied to a PBAoE attack) and an end recovery power (tied to a PBAoE attack). The sustain power is kind of wonky, since it's a click with a 120 second duration coupled to a ranged fear. Other than that it's got a ranged immobilize and a ranged AoE stun. While thematically similar to Dark Blast, a secondary that keeps you in melee may not be the best match for a primary with 2 cones. 2 1 Uuniverse
Apparition Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Dark Blast wants you at range. Like Uun said, Dark Manipulation is a blapper secondary that wants you in melee. While a nice combination thematically, they are at odds in game mechanics. If you want Dark Blast, I would recommend Devices, Energy Manipulation, Tactical Arrow, or Temporal Manipulation instead. If you want Dark Manipulation, I would recommend Dual Pistols, Fire Blast, or Radiation Blast instead. Edited October 27, 2021 by Apparition 1
drgantz Posted October 27, 2021 Author Posted October 27, 2021 Thank you everyone for your replies. Since Dark/Dark don't seem to have a good synergy, I will try a melee AT.
FUBARczar Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Not a good pair IMO. Dark blast is better at range with crappy come attacks for AoE, while DM needs melee with death shroud, soul drain, etc 1
PLVRIZR Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) On 10/27/2021 at 1:10 PM, drgantz said: Thank you everyone for your replies. Since Dark/Dark don't seem to have a good synergy, I will try a melee AT. Best "Crow" theme I could think of is Dark Blast/Martial Combat. I agree that Dark Manipulation is the correct secondary, thematically, but none of the primaries fit. Have you thought about a Scrapper? Edited November 5, 2021 by PLVRIZR Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present
oedipus_tex Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 I have a Dark/Energy Blaster who is pretty great and extremely hard to kill. Not the fastest Blaster in terms of kill times, but not every character needs to be. I really appreciate Dark Blast having an immobilize. That's a feature many Blasters don't get and it does make life much easier IMO. 2
Gwyrddu Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 I never tried Dark/Dark, but I'm pretty impressed with Dark/Devices, particularly in solo. It's the closest you can probably get to being a ranged stalker.
PluckySidekick Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 Several discussions on this topic have been held before. You can see some here: 2 2
Doomguide2005 Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 4 hours ago, oedipus_tex said: I have a Dark/Energy Blaster who is pretty great and extremely hard to kill. Not the fastest Blaster in terms of kill times, but not every character needs to be. I really appreciate Dark Blast having an immobilize. That's a feature many Blasters don't get and it does make life much easier IMO. Certainly much easier to be and stay at range if all your foes are immobilized "over there". Then when and where (or if) you want to be in melee it's your choice. 1
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