cranebump Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 For posterity... 1 2 I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrypessimist Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) That's actually not a bad Yin derivative costume. Maybe a little sexier than I'd assume the actual character would go, but definitely within the realm of believable outfits. EDIT: On second thought, it's a lot closer than it looked at first glance. Now I'm more impressed. Edited February 23, 2022 by merrypessimist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ukase Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I guess my question would be is why are we allowed to copy NPC names? I thought that wasn't allowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ukase said: I guess my question would be is why are we allowed to copy NPC names? I thought that wasn't allowed. It isn't. Just no one has reported the person yet, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, Ukase said: I guess my question would be is why are we allowed to copy NPC names? I thought that wasn't allowed. 10 minutes ago, Apparition said: It isn't. Just no one has reported the person yet, I suppose. Of the three Penelope Yin's in the game, Penelope Yin (Faultline), Penelope Yin (Praetorian), and Penelope Yin (Freedom Phalanx Member) - none are called Penny Yin. I'd say this is just a case of fan parody at least and a bit on the nose at worst. But I'm not a GM, so take it with a grain of salt! Spoiler Conduct Guidelines Do not abuse or harass others This includes players, Homecoming staff, and players or staff from other communities If someone wants you to leave them alone, you must leave them alone Obey the content guidelines (see below) at all times This includes messages and actions in-game, on the forum and on Discord Do not spam Respect the privacy of others Do not attempt to uncover the private information (e.g. name, address, email address, phone number) of other players ('doxxing') If you possess other players' private information, do not share it without their explicit permission Do not impersonate others This includes Homecoming staff, NCSOFT staff, players, other prominent members of the wider City of Heroes community and real-world individuals Do not attempt to bypass the profanity filter For example: By replacing letters with numbers to allow a word to pass through the filter, or naming your pets something vulgar Do not cheat or abuse exploits If you find an exploit please report it to a member of staff immediately This includes the use of scripts and programs to automate gameplay This includes trying to deceive or otherwise cheat other players for your own gain Do not engage in real-money trading (RMT) For example, do not attempt to exchange real money for in-game services or influence Obey the multiboxing policy (see below) Content Guidelines The following is considered prohibited content: Anything illegal in the real world: This includes anything related to gambling, child pornography, terrorism, illegal controlled substances, and any real world criminal activity (yes, we know City of Villains exists) Hate speech: Hate speech is defined as anything threatening or abusive towards a specific group based on their race, religious beliefs, political affiliation, disability, sexual orientation or gender identity Controversial and adult content, including: Sexual, provocative, pornographic, or adult content Violent content Controversial religious content Controversial political content Anything involving controversial real-world individuals or organisations Anything involving sensitive events, both current and historical These content guidelines apply to anything you can create or share in-game, on our forum, and on our Discord. This includes, but is not limited to: Character names, descriptions, and costumes Chat messages on any channel in-game This includes private channels, such as team or supergroup chat - we generally do not proactively monitor these channels, but if we receive a complaint, you will be liable for anything you have said The guidelines will be strictly enforced on server-wide channels The guidelines are relaxed in private chats which are only accessible to consenting parties (such as /tells) Messages posted on Discord or on our forum Pet names Supergroup names and bases Architect missions and any content they contain Anything else another player can see or experience Copyright Policy Use of copyrighted characters and content without permission is not permitted when creating characters or Architect content. This includes characters and stories from intellectual property belonging to any IP that is not City of Heroes. Additionally, creating copies of existing characters from the City of Heroes / Villains lore or naming your Supergroup after existing groups from the City of Heroes / Villains lore is not permitted. Use of these characters in Architect Entertainment and character backstories is permitted, and you are free to present yourself as a member of an existing group or portray your Supergroup as an offshoot or subdivision of an existing group, but you cannot portray yourself as owning or being in control of any existing group. 1 I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said: Of the three Penelope Yin's in the game, Penelope Yin (Faultline), Penelope Yin (Praetorian), and Penelope Yin (Freedom Phalanx Member) - none are called Penny Yin. I'd say this is just a case of fan parody at least and a bit on the nose at worst. But I'm not a GM, so take it with a grain of salt! Maybe, all I know is that I've seen someone get genericed for having a costume very similar to Sister Psyche, but with a different character name. This "Penny Yin" also has a very similar costume and a similar name on top of that. But I am also not a GM, so YMMV. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraka Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 That would be dumb to report this player. I often hear in power creep debates who is getting harmed if everyone gets stronger with the obvious re-enforcement that if players aren't causing direct harm to players, it's fair game. This hurts no one lol I probably wouldn't make such a character myself mostly because I like making my own lore characters but the closest I got was my Grav/EA Dom that does copy the appearance of multiple heroes and villains as alternate costumes with the main difference being he has a lizard tail (because he's a chameleon). Standing near the NPC where some might accidentally slide up to me only to realize the NPC is behind them is about as much "harm" as that could cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranebump Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 What was most interesting to me was that Penny Yin was running the Penelope Yin TF. FINALLY! One of these turds jumps in to help us!:-) 2 I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I'm surprised known superheroes haven't had their names blocked from being used. Someone yesterday was running around using a known character from DC. 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Naraka said: I probably wouldn't make such a character myself mostly because I like making my own lore characters but the closest I got was my Grav/EA Dom that does copy the appearance of multiple heroes and villains as alternate costumes with the main difference being he has a lizard tail (because he's a chameleon). Standing near the NPC where some might accidentally slide up to me only to realize the NPC is behind them is about as much "harm" as that could cause. I did a similar thing with an alt-universe Manticore, tho the costume itself doesn't necessarily try to get mimic-level close. No harm no foul, just good fun and a reasonable number of "awesome!" tells. Edited February 24, 2022 by Cutter @Cutter So many alts, so little time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I wouldn't report anyone for making a tribute-hero / clone of an NPC or clone of an MCU or DC hero. But I would say to myself "there's someone who will be generic'd in a few days...." And I'd have absolutely no sympathy for when it inevitably happened. Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, MTeague said: I wouldn't report anyone for making a tribute-hero / clone of an NPC or clone of an MCU or DC hero. But I would say to myself "there's someone who will be generic'd in a few days...." And I'd have absolutely no sympathy for when it inevitably happened. That's my take. I ain't gonna snitch, and if it's a really good job I'll tell 'em so, but I'll assume any copyrighted character is gonna get the generic at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranebump Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) And, just to add to the “homage-ness,” my own character in the photo is based on one of the in-game contacts. THIEVES! THIEVES! Look to your house, your purse, and your bags! Edited February 24, 2022 by cranebump I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 After reviewing the Conduct Guidelines posted by the Homecoming Team, I haven't seen anything that says that a player can't copy or mimic a CoH/V NPC. Objection overruled. Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancrusher Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Quote Additionally, creating copies of existing characters from the City of Heroes / Villains lore or naming your Supergroup after existing groups from the City of Heroes / Villains lore is not permitted. Use of these characters in Architect Entertainment and character backstories is permitted, and you are free to present yourself as a member of an existing group or portray your Supergroup as an offshoot or subdivision of an existing group, but you cannot portray yourself as owning or being in control of any existing group. Not that I care, personally. I'm guessing there are legal considerations they have to take so they don't get into a litigation situation, though. Edited February 24, 2022 by Cancrusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said: After reviewing the Conduct Guidelines posted by the Homecoming Team, I haven't seen anything that says that a player can't copy or mimic a CoH/V NPC. Objection overruled. Good thing. That new tank mentioned in my sig is Mk-X Victoria. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Cancrusher said: Not that I care, personally. I'm guessing there are legal considerations they have to take so they don't get into a litigation situation, though. Oh, dur. I guess that I need to learn to read again. Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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