TungstenShark Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 I have been away from CoH for awhile now and want to feel the crunchy goodness of War Mace. Does anyone have an opinion on a second secondary to pair it with? I could always go with the old stand-by of Bio for the extra damage. Stone looks intriguing, but I need to dive into more (once I get Mids updated). I like to make my Scrappers as tough as possible since a dead Scrapper does zero DPS. Anyone have strong opinions or a build they love with War Mace?
ZorkNemesis Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Shield is good, I know there's a bunch that swear by it. Damage buffs with Against All Odds, taunt aura, positional defenses, Shield Charge, and the shield can lend to a classic knight look. The only negative I can think of is that if you opt to keep weapon redraw as a thing, Active Defense and Shield Charge will put away your mace. Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live.
Yomo Kimyata Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 War Mace is pretty endurance heavy so it helps to have a blue bar friendly secondary. But it’s certainly not necessary. Who run Bartertown?
InvaderStych Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 Mace/Stone was an interesting combo that I ran during the open beta. The KD in Mace plays nice with Mud Pots, and Brimstone's fire proc supplements Mace nicely. 1 You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge.
Gobbledygook Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Wm/Ea Strong and pretty. https://web.archive.org/web/20120906164104/http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/Sonikusan/screenshot1_01.jpg Edited March 19, 2022 by Gobbledygook Strong and pretty 5 2
Spaghetti Betty Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 My Mace/Elec scrapper ended up pretty fun. Endurance was a little tight but Power Sink fixed that right up. Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets!
TungstenShark Posted March 20, 2022 Author Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 9:20 PM, Gobbledygook said: Wm/Ea Strong and pretty. Dang, it has to be EnA doesn't it? Strong and pretty for the win. 2
Without_Pause Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 EA or Stone. I have a Stone Stalker and Brute, but end has been manageable, Granted, I just hit 35 on the Brute so seeing how that goes with the latest toggle added, but really blues which drop are enough. End drain based mobs makes life a bit harder, but I still find it manageable. I think my toggles only dropped once in a long time when I simply ignored my blue bar for a time. Note, I have been using IOs as I go. I used cheaper ones up till 27, and aimed for end game ones sans purples after that. This is my Ice/stone Brute which should be easy enough to convert over. I've taken EA to 50 twice, so that will quite good as well. WM will like the recharge both offer. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Project Next: Level 50 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Ice MeleeSecondary Power Set: Stone ArmorPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Ice Sword -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(11)Level 1: Rock Armor -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(7), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Rct-Def/Rchg(9), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Rct-ResDam%(45)Level 2: Frost -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(17), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(23), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), PstBls-Dam%(25), Ann-ResDeb%(27)Level 4: Earth's Embrace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9)Level 6: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 8: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 10: Mud Pots -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(13), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(13), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Obl-%Dam(17)Level 12: Stone Skin -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(47), RedFrt-Def(48), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(48), GldArm-3defTpProc(48), GldArm-ResDam(49)Level 14: Fly -- Empty(A)Level 16: Rooted -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(40)Level 18: Greater Ice Sword -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(23)Level 20: Crystal Armor -- PrfShf-End%(A), RedFrt-Def(45), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(46)Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 24: Tough -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(36), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 26: Freezing Touch -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Hct-Acc/Rchg(29), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Hct-Dam%(31), UnbCns-Dam%(31)Level 28: Minerals -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(37)Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)Level 32: Frozen Aura -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(33), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34)Level 35: Brimstone Armor -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Ags-ResDam(39), Ags-Psi/Status(40)Level 38: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(39), RedFrt-Def(39)Level 41: Mu Lightning -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43), Apc-Dam%(50)Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(49), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50)Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-EndRdx(A), Clr-RunSpd(36)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(11)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(37)Level 14: Afterburner ------------ Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Thrax Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) /sr. Perma hasten easier and can proc out attacks and still be soft capped easily. DDR capped so won’t need a heal. Only 5 toggles needed so won’t have end issues and no psi hole. Edited March 22, 2022 by Thrax
WindDemon21 Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 War mace is amazing and goes with most of the secondaries. Good ST and aoe. Don't forget all the knockdown powers can also slot FF procs to help recharge your armor stuff too. Also allows for more eradication slotting to boost e/n defense depending on the armor if it needs it. Would definitely go scrapper with war mace, but it *works* with any AT. Extra aoe is nice on tanks of course and it's ST is good too for them which is where they really lack. Thematically of course too mace/shield is a really solid option, but bio with it can be just sickening too.
Without_Pause Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 1:03 AM, Thrax said: DDR capped so won’t need a heal. That's what Rebirth and Melee is for. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
MoonSheep Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 1:54 AM, Spaghetti Betty said: My Mace/Elec scrapper ended up pretty fun. Endurance was a little tight but Power Sink fixed that right up. i have made this combo on test a few times and find it a really rewarding character i often try mace/shield also and whilst shield is more survivable and better damage, something about elec armour just feels more fun If you're not dying you're not living
Thrax Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 9:09 AM, Without_Pause said: That's what Rebirth and Melee is for. Taking melee on a scrapper just plain hurts my soul.
Without_Pause Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Thrax said: Taking melee on a scrapper just plain hurts my soul. Not taking the offensive options in Alpha and Hybrid can be odd, but it is very build specific. Melee is solid regen for something without a heal. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Thrax Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 There are probably some pretty cool pairings with war mace that would look cool with stone. I’d probably go shield it you like the look with shield. I shave an electric/WM tank and it’s cool. Think the taunt looks cool with WM sand shield.
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