honoroit Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) we're presuming (at least) two sets of tine slice here. when code was closed and ncsoft, and when it was 'stolen'/leaked/other and made offshoot as private server, and there in our brand that became HC. indeed a third, when the offshoot became less hidden, and as with others forks long past, still closed, of which ours pertains to these forums and now. any which way - its been a long time sitting. but the answer may well be: "wont fix - implementation complexity prohibative" Edited August 17, 2023 by honoroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Learning how the game works before telling everyone else how it should work… is a good thing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Cold Domination is the best support set and debuff set as a whole compared to any other set in solo or team play. I say that with obvious bias from having played the set since Corruptors were introduced in City of Villains during legacy and maining it since Homecoming launched, but also just look at the set flexibility and efficiency. It can do anything! Solo +4 AVs! Make teams in to juggernauts! Solo the entire game outside of Incarnate trials! And you want to buff them???? 1 1 Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikao Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Glacier Peak said: Cold Domination is the best support set and debuff set as a whole compared to any other set in solo or team play. I say that with obvious bias from having played the set since Corruptors were introduced in City of Villains during legacy and maining it since Homecoming launched, but also just look at the set flexibility and efficiency. It can do anything! Solo +4 AVs! Make teams in to juggernauts! Solo the entire game outside of Incarnate trials! And you want to buff them???? No, I want broken old code to be fixed. Because as it stands right now, it makes no sense. There's an exception to an effect because of a weird bug with damage and then there are also exception to that with powers to suddenly DO work with PB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macskull Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Raikao said: No, I want broken old code to be fixed. Because as it stands right now, it makes no sense. There's an exception to an effect because of a weird bug with damage and then there are also exception to that with powers to suddenly DO work with PB. It's not a bug. It's how the game handles damage and resistance, and "fixing" it wouldn't be possible without a lot of work that, quite frankly, isn't worth it. 1 "If you can read this, I've failed as a developer." -- Caretaker Proc information and chance calculator spreadsheet (last updated 15APR24) Player numbers graph (updated every 15 minutes) Graph readme @macskull/@Not Mac | Twitch | Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery_Deception Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Ah yes, the dismissive comments when an idea gets brought up when wanting old code to be fixed. Sorry you have deal with that OP. Reminds me why I stay away from these forums. 1 1 2 When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. - Dr. Maya Angelou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fiery_Deception said: Ah yes, the dismissive comments when an idea gets brought up when wanting old code to be fixed. Sorry you have deal with that OP. Reminds me why I stay away from these forums. Ah yes, the dismissive comments when respondents disagree with the OP. 🙄 Reminds me of who’s too fragile for meaningful discussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macskull Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Fiery_Deception said: Ah yes, the dismissive comments when an idea gets brought up when wanting old code to be fixed. Sorry you have deal with that OP. Reminds me why I stay away from these forums. Saying it needs to be fixed implies something is broken. Now, don't get me wrong, I would love if Cold shields could be affected by Power Boost. It wouldn't affect me at all because I wouldn't respec any of my characters to get PB, but if a player chose to do it a set that's already S-tier would be... I dunno, S-plus-tier? Multiple posters in this thread (and the multitude of other threads linked earlier) have discussed why it is not possible for Cold shields to be boosted barring significant changes to the way the game is coded. OP's initial reason of wanting PB to work on Cold shields was that Force Fields has boostable defense (and why that's the case has been exhaustively discussed here and elsewhere) and Cold can't put out the same defense numbers but OP also overlooks that defense is... kinda Force Field's entire bag while Cold has a huge array of things and the defense is only a small part of that. 2 "If you can read this, I've failed as a developer." -- Caretaker Proc information and chance calculator spreadsheet (last updated 15APR24) Player numbers graph (updated every 15 minutes) Graph readme @macskull/@Not Mac | Twitch | Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fiery_Deception said: Ah yes, the dismissive comments when an idea gets brought up when wanting old code to be fixed. Sorry you have deal with that OP. Reminds me why I stay away from these forums. Just in time to dismiss someone's comment while complaining about someone dismissing someone's comment LOL Edited August 18, 2023 by Glacier Peak Autocorrect Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Fiery_Deception said: Ah yes, the dismissive comments when an idea gets brought up when wanting old code to be fixed. Sorry you have deal with that OP. Reminds me why I stay away from these forums. So you prefer a forum in which every suggestion (no matter how incorrect) is praised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery_Deception Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Thanks for proving my point. Keeps people away from these forums, i guess thats what you want. God bless you all. 2 When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. - Dr. Maya Angelou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery_Deception Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ghost said: So you prefer a forum in which every suggestion (no matter how incorrect) is praised? Good attempt to straw man me, try again. When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. - Dr. Maya Angelou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbegla Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 As what other people have said, you can't look at /Cold in a vacuum and only look at the defense shields. It adds so MUCH more as a powerset, that the defense it gives is just that much more gravy on an already high tier secondary. Having power boost effect the shields would give it the same (or even higher) values as Force Field, which literally only has defense as its one trick pony. I honestly think even though force field just got looked at, it needs another pass to give it some absorb values or something other then pure defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Fiery_Deception said: Ah yes, the dismissive comments when an idea gets brought up when wanting old code to be fixed. Sorry you have deal with that OP. Reminds me why I stay away from these forums. Just now, Fiery_Deception said: 10 minutes ago, Ghost said: So you prefer a forum in which every suggestion (no matter how incorrect) is praised? Good attempt to straw man me, try again. How about if instead of dismissing people's comments because you don't like the comments, you try justifying the suggestion you support? Posts giving reasons why the OP either cannot or should not be done have been given or linked. Maybe try giving reasons why you think it should be done anyway? Why do you think the devs should invest the time it would take to completely overhaul the game's combat mechanics to accommodate this suggestion and why you think a power set that apparently everyone thinks is the best of the best needs the extra boost? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted August 19, 2023 Game Master Share Posted August 19, 2023 This thread has got rude and personal so I'm locking it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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