That power cancel, switch, power cancel, switch...is broken.

[Solarverse]

That can't be intended? That looks like a straight up broken mechanic. Could that even be considered an exploit? I mean, no Warshade should be doing that kind of damage.

 

I am shocked this has not already been called out, so I assume the Devs are good with this?

What are the thoughts? Not your biased thoughts...come on fellas, what is your honest thoughts bias aside?

Edited August 31 by Solarverse

[honoroit]

tri form ws is pretty great

figs - goes faster than most (you)

[nihilii]

As someone who gave it a go then gave up due to the complexity involved, my honest thoughts are: this is fine, ish.

This gives kheldians a path to get close (but not even reach parity) with the top end builds of other ATs. Basically, 1000% of the effort for 80-90% of the performance *in ideal conditions*. In less than ideal conditions, if you slip up or if the enemy complexity forces different reactions out of you, this can make for cascading failure. Even managing Momentum on old Titan Weapons is child's play in comparison.

 

I'm admirative of players with the drive to push kheldians so far.

Edited August 31 by nihilii

[GM Crumpet]

6 hours ago, Solarverse said:

 

I am shocked this has not already been called out, so I assume the Devs are good with this?
 

The devs are fully aware, and they do have a bit of an overhaul of Khelds in the pipeline (which I know nothing of) so are of the opinion at the moment that while there are exploits to make khelds better, they aren't game breaking as such so are fine. There is the proviso of course that at some point, eventually, in the fullness of time etc. it may be fixed and no longer work, but that's for another day and hopefully any changes they make will be better alts in the long run. The devs are of the opinion that if players need to use bugs/exploits to play to their full potential then the AT needs looking at.

[Laucianna]

Yeah as Crumpet said, the Devs are well aware and have said they will keep it in the game (Though nerfed from what it was when found (It now roots you as you fire off your powers)) until Kheldians get a rework, that could be in the next patch or a patch 5 years from now so there's no saying how long it has left.

And with the kind of damage, even with how spammy it is it won't compare to a damage AT otherwise it would be changed instantly XD

 

 - Lauci x

[Solarverse]

13 hours ago, Laucianna said:

Yeah as Crumpet said, the Devs are well aware and have said they will keep it in the game (Though nerfed from what it was when found (It now roots you as you fire off your powers)) until Kheldians get a rework, that could be in the next patch or a patch 5 years from now so there's no saying how long it has left.

And with the kind of damage, even with how spammy it is it won't compare to a damage AT otherwise it would be changed instantly XD

 

 - Lauci x

 

I play human form and feel it could use some love, however, I seen what tri-forms can do these days and was like, "Holy shit....there is no way human form will ever see a buff when Warshades are pulling that crap off."

So hopefully they fix what is broken and buff what they feel needs to be buffed at the same time. I can hope anyway.  😄

[arcane]

Yes it is an exploit. It needed to be fixed yesterday, but, alas, they’ll take their time.

[Laucianna]

1 hour ago, arcane said:

Yes it is an exploit. It needed to be fixed yesterday, but, alas, they’ll take their time.

The GMs have already said they will keep it in the game for players to use until Kheldians get a buff 🙂
 - Lauci x
 

[Laucianna]

13 hours ago, Solarverse said:

 

I play human form and feel it could use some love, however, I seen what tri-forms can do these days and was like, "Holy shit....there is no way human form will ever see a buff when Warshades are pulling that crap off."

So hopefully they fix what is broken and buff what they feel needs to be buffed at the same time. I can hope anyway.  😄

Yeah sadly Human only does fall short at the moment compared to Tri form, but I feel like they always will as Kheldians are all about the different forms and being utility based, switching to doing what the team needs at the moment and a Tri form can do that better then a human only (Even without the exploits)

- Lauci x

[arcane]

6 minutes ago, Laucianna said:

The GMs have already said they will keep it in the game for players to use until Kheldians get a buff 🙂
 - Lauci x
 

And I disagree with intentionally keeping exploits around just because a class is otherwise underperforming. All I’m saying. 

[Laucianna]

19 hours ago, arcane said:

And I disagree with intentionally keeping exploits around just because a class is otherwise underperforming. All I’m saying. 

Thats okay I know a few people agree with you, was just saying the GMs are aware of it and will keep it in the game until the Kheldians get reworked ❤️ 

- Lauci x

[User]

On 9/3/2023 at 1:10 PM, Laucianna said:

The GMs have already said they will keep it in the game for players to use until Kheldians get a buff 🙂
 - Lauci x
 

In that case would someone please fill those of us who aren't in the know in so we can have kheld fun meanwhile ? How does this trick work?

Edited September 5 by User

[Laucianna]

On 9/5/2023 at 11:55 PM, User said:

In that case would someone please fill those of us who aren't in the know in so we can have kheld fun meanwhile ? How does this trick work?

I talk about it in my guide and include the bindings and video examples of what to do ❤️ 

 - Lauci x

[honoroit]

^ probably because they made the form change instant (good).

 

ive never done that - linked a bind to

1>drop form

2> use power from dropped form

3>re-enter form

allowing you to skip anim time on the ghost power ordering shouldnt allow but implementation does.

 

so theres the cancel and immediate cast.

 

 @Laucianna has videos and actual bind commands.

 

you could do this with the tank form to with its relevant skills, on all your skills where theres form shifting or can be, to cheat in the changeover...

 

...thats definately cheating spirit of letting khelds change form insta, and conceptually shows as so in bind commands you'd create to exploit the behavior.

 

because its clear your referring to the past (a power from a form youre not in) as part of a chain to avoid cast time.

 

probably next Figs - psi melee / dark stalker (to hurt for/with khelds)

Edited September 8 by honoroit