Enhancement Diversification

[Shenanigunner]

3 minutes ago, ZemX said:

But you have to know you have something to look for.

 

Switching from one commercial software package to another, even one with a nearly identical UI and features — think word processors, before there was basically only one — could mean days of hair-tearing trying to figure out a feature when you didn't know Company B called it something different from Company A's term. Until you stumbled on the exact term, you were lost. Things have gotten a little better, but even among games, the specific terms for certain elements vary, and searching for Game X's lingo won't help at all.

[Frostbiter]

We could always have Ms Liberty talk to our new heroes about ED.

[Shenanigunner]

3 minutes ago, Snarky said:

the homecoming wiki actually has a LOT of information, most of it in an accessible structure.  but it is something that requires what used to be considered elementary research skills, now considered upper graduate level mystical knowledge

 

But there are few (good) pages that tie things together or give overview/tutorials, and as I just noted, you have to know what to search for before you can search for it... or even know that you need to search for it.

 

This is why I grind my teeth at hand-wavy suggestions that someone go look up [any complex CoX subject] in "the wiki." If someone is asking, they probably don't even know what they don't know, and it's tough to learn anything properly when the component paragraphs are scattered over many, sometimes dozens of pages.

 

And counter-snark that anyone who can't find what they're looking for must be something like stupid or lazy comes from people who don't need to look anything up, and when they do, know exactly what cryptic page to go find it on.

 

(I've been doing this as a primary rent-paying activity for mumble years. I have scars from battles with software and system engineers who insisted that their indecipherable code notes were all any user needed. 'Nuf sed.)

[Snarky]

1 minute ago, Frostbiter said:

We could always have Ms Liberty talk to our new heroes about ED.

i desperately want this.... the first part of that could even be a cutscene with a cheerful and helpful Ms Liberty offering help!

[Shenanigunner]

1 minute ago, Snarky said:

i desperately want this.... the first part of that could even be a cutscene with a cheerful and helpful Ms Liberty offering help!

 

"Let me give you a hand with that..."

[Snarky]

1 minute ago, Shenanigunner said:

 

But there are few (good) pages that tie things together or give overview/tutorials, and as I just noted, you have to know what to search for before you can search for it... or even know that you need to search for it.

 

This is why I grind my teeth at hand-wavy suggestions that someone go look up [any complex CoX subject] in "the wiki." If someone is asking, they probably don't even know what they don't know, and it's tough to learn anything properly when the component paragraphs are scattered over many, sometimes dozens of pages.

 

And counter-snark that anyone who can't find what they're looking for must be something like stupid or lazy comes from people who don't need to look anything up, and when they do, know exactly what cryptic page to go find it on.

 

(I've been doing this as a primary rent-paying activity for mumble years. I have scars from battles with software and system engineers who insisted that their indecipherable code notes were all any user needed. 'Nuf sed.)

Actually I suck at details in this game.  Ask anyone.  I am also mediocre help on most complicated tasks.  I can get witnesses.  

 

What I do know here is hard won, and once I learn something, it does tend to finally stick.  

 

I used to be very good with MS excel, and pretty good at getting a pivot table to pull data from sets to display in reports.  MS changed Excel so much I cannot use it now except as a list system.

[Oklahoman]

I posted in the Suggestions forum once that maybe we could have an NPC in Atlas that you could ask to evaluate your build (on a pretty basic level) who could point out "Hey you 6 slotted this power with damage enhancements, and here's why you may want to do that differently" or "Looks like you have 6 sets giving you +7.5% recharge" etc.

 

Just moving some of that knowledge from the wiki into the game itself would be helpful and more player-friendly.

[Snarky]

7 minutes ago, Oklahoman said:

I posted in the Suggestions forum once that maybe we could have an NPC in Atlas that you could ask to evaluate your build (on a pretty basic level) who could point out "Hey you 6 slotted this power with damage enhancements, and here's why you may want to do that differently" or "Looks like you have 6 sets giving you +7.5% recharge" etc.

 

Just moving some of that knowledge from the wiki into the game itself would be helpful and more player-friendly.

it is a great suggestion.  I am far from a programmer.  But let me give you an opinion anyways. 

 

Whatever this is, it will have to be a "bolt on" with whatever ATM interface or Contact opening up some form of backdoor APP.  That alone is really not something CoH deals with well.  Example, the simple task of retrieving previous AH prices.

 

Now, suppose you solve the above issue easily, and it works great.  (miracles happen)  Now you need an APP/Program/Whatever to evaluate issues with a build.  Sheesh.  This would need to identify how many "stray from conservative building practices" options and give UNDERSTANDABLE feedback on each.  Through a ATM/Contact Dialogue box....  

 

Yeah, it is a great idea though.

 

 

[Oklahoman]

2 minutes ago, Snarky said:

it is a great suggestion.  I am far from a programmer.  But let me give you an opinion anyways. 

 

Whatever this is, it will have to be a "bolt on" with whatever ATM interface or Contact opening up some form of backdoor APP.  That alone is really not something CoH deals with well.  Example, the simple task of retrieving previous AH prices.

 

Now, suppose you solve the above issue easily, and it works great.  (miracles happen)  Now you need an APP/Program/Whatever to evaluate issues with a build.  Sheesh.  This would need to identify how many "stray from conservative building practices" options and give UNDERSTANDABLE feedback on each.  Through a ATM/Contact Dialogue box....  

 

Yeah, it is a great idea though.

 

I'm a recovering programmer who still relapses every now and again. I recognize some of what you say. For instance, I know what an ATM is - that's where I go to when I need actual cash out of my account.

[High_Beam]

Such a lost opportunity for product placement.

[Snarky]

2 minutes ago, Oklahoman said:

 

I'm a recovering programmer who still relapses every now and again. I recognize some of what you say. For instance, I know what an ATM is - that's where I go to when I need actual cash out of my account.

I was thinking of that kiosk in Atlas that tell how long you been on patrol and how many times you been to the top of that guy's huge ball

[PeregrineFalcon]

*sigh*

 

The Homecoming forums are going to be nothing but juvenile NSFW jokes for the entirety of 2024.

 

You kids get off my lawn!

[EmperorSteele]

Just now, PeregrineFalcon said:

*sigh*

 

The Homecoming forums are going to be nothing but juvenile NSFW jokes for the entirety of 2024.

 

You kids get off my lawn!

 

*astronaut_holding_gun_to_another_astronaut's_head_meme.jpg*

 

"It always has been"

 

=)

[JasperStone]

1 hour ago, Snarky said:

And a real world example….

 

Vitamin supplements are good for me.  So i should take a LOT every day because I want to play X sport.   Noooooo.   Too much of a good thing is not at all good sometimes.  But you have to read the very fine print and listen to successful people in sport X to know a little more.

I'm scared to think what "vitamin" supplements a vampire needs.

[Snarky]

Just now, JasperStone said:

I'm scared to think what "vitamin" supplements a vampire needs.

Vitamin D.  C'mon....

[JasperStone]

I STILL have arguments with people who six slot stamina.

[Scarlet Shocker]

41 minutes ago, Oklahoman said:

I posted in the Suggestions forum once that maybe we could have an NPC in Atlas that you could ask to evaluate your build (on a pretty basic level) who could point out "Hey you 6 slotted this power with damage enhancements, and here's why you may want to do that differently" or "Looks like you have 6 sets giving you +7.5% recharge" etc.

 

Just moving some of that knowledge from the wiki into the game itself would be helpful and more player-friendly.

 

 

Put it in the Bulletin Terminals dotted across the city, that are more or less redundant currently

[Skyhawke]

[Shenanigunner]

56 minutes ago, Snarky said:

MS changed Excel so much I cannot use it now except as a list system.

 

Not in v2016, they didn't. I refuse to use 365 unless a client insists, and then I charge ITP fees.

[Doomguide2005]

Just now, Skyhawke said:

My god where did you see that npc?  They have hands!!!  Fort Trident?  Nobody goes there.

[Skyhawke]

6 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said:

My god where did you see that npc?  They have hands!!!  Fort Trident?  Nobody goes there.

Well, he was in the City then he championed himself to a differnt place and ended up directly continuing unnecessarily online.

[Krimson]

Players had 6 and a half YEARS to protest this on Live. Enhancement Diversification turned 18 last October and is old enough to vote. Why is it an issue in 2024?

[HelenCarnate]

57 minutes ago, Oklahoman said:

 

I'm a recovering programmer who still relapses every now and again. I recognize some of what you say. For instance, I know what an ATM is - that's where I go to when I need actual cash out of my account.

You are incorrect and should probably not google ATM videos that show you. 

[Captain Fabulous]

14 hours ago, Pgydaux said:

Cool. Thanks.

 

Neatly 20 years ago, but I'm still reeling from the Crisis of Infinite Nerfs that was I5 & ED.

You and me both, bro. You and me both.

[Oklahoman]

19 minutes ago, HelenCarnate said:

You are incorrect and should probably not google ATM videos that show you. 

 

I've been told I should google a recipe for blue waffles, too.