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2 hours ago, Krimson said:

What if Group Fly was disabled by default and enabled for any player who selects the power? Thus, the only way for Group Fly to affect you is to either go to Null and activate it or select the power.


That would be a perfect way to do it and super new person friendly!

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Just now, Krimson said:

My aggravation was based on the fact that players might choose a power that other players don't like, and have no way of knowing until said players start shitting on them in mission. That's not a good way to run a game.


Full agree there, system is flawed at the moment which I believe all sides agree on (Think XD) and it's defo worth brainstorming ways to solve that issue like your idea is a great solution imo ❤️ 

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3 hours ago, Andreah said:

The simplest solution is still to do nothing coding-wise, and tell people annoyed by Group Fly to go see Null; and regardless of that, when people refuse to stop using it when asked by their team leaders, kick them off the team.

 

So after 18 pages of discussion we've arrived at.... the exact thing that happened to the OP as the solution?

 

Well done everyone!

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47 minutes ago, Krimson said:

My aggravation was based on the fact that players might choose a power that other players don't like, and have no way of knowing until said players start shitting on them in mission. That's not a good way to run a game.

 

Or you could turn it on, and when asked to turn it off then do so? Or even perhaps ask in team chat "hey, does anyone mind if I use group fly?" No shitting on anyone necessary. 

 

But the thing is, I can't recall once in nearly 4 years of playing CoH, of anyone asking in team chat "hey can I use group fly?" Which suggests to me that the answer to that most of the time would be "no please don't." And since the answer will likely be no, people don't ask. They just use it. And then get upset when others are irritated by it. But that is just me musing aloud.

 

Both sides of the topic can be rude about it. Personally, I say its team leaders call. If they say yes, then use it. if they say no, then don't. If you don't like them saying no, you can leave. If I am not okay with them saying yes, then I can leave.

 

But let's not pretend that any and all people who use group fly are the "victims" here. I use group fly myself, when solo. Rarely used in teams unless the mission/tf needs it. But some people absolutely REFUSE to turn it off, regardless of how others are affected. Which is sort of why it causes many people to cringe when it's used. That, and many other people just plain don't like it.

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