The Idea Police

[arcane]

1 minute ago, battlewraith said:

Thanks for your valuable input. I didn’t think you’d be able to top stuff like “are you ok?” But you managed to do it. 

The kettle is doing fine, Pot

[Forager]

3 hours ago, arcane said:

I literally responded to that thread that I was down with a new zone.

 

That's right! You did respond to that thread! Great job.

 

But I wonder... if you don't think the criticism applies to your post, why you would defend your post against it. You're allowed to do this, of course.

 

3 hours ago, arcane said:

I don’t understand how you all are not worried about Forager’s well being at this point.

 

Hey man... have fun.

[battlewraith]

31 minutes ago, golstat2003 said:

 

That actually ins't surprising seeing as that's how long it takes our unpaid dev team to build things out. Unless someone is willing to pay them for this to be their primary job, that's just how long things are gonna take.

So what is the positive from telling people that in a suggestion thread? I would like to see (x) implemented in the game. Ok, if the devs like this idea you can maybe see them act on it in 4-5 years. Wouldn’t it be more enjoyable to have less restrictive and disincentivizing conversations?

[battlewraith]

3 minutes ago, arcane said:

The kettle is doing fine, Pot

 

Achievement unlocked: base level self awareness.

[arcane]

2 minutes ago, Forager said:

 

That's right! You did respond to that thread! Great job.

 

But I wonder... if you don't think the criticism applies to your post, why you would defend your post against it. You're allowed to do this, of course.

I… think I may have entirely misunderstood this thread. I thought I was part of the Idea Police that you want the mods to suppress so badly. 
 

Woulda been nice to know this 10 pages ago 😕

 

Well now that I know I’m not a problem we can all be friends I’m sure.

[arcane]

I’m considering dispelling this myth that I can only be negative by going through the thread list and finding every acceptable topic I can and replying that “the Idea Police authorizes this proposed change to progress forward into the development phase”. But somehow I don’t think my handler and master Googly will find that sufficiently funny 😔

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

5 minutes ago, arcane said:

I don’t think my handler and master Googly will find that sufficiently funny

[imzadi]

1 hour ago, battlewraith said:

 

Why you calling it an echo if the original was never destroyed. Riddle me that!

I'm guessing you've never been to Echo: Atlas Park

[battlewraith]

6 minutes ago, imzadi said:

I'm guessing you've never been to Echo: Atlas Park

 

I was referencing comments made in the other thread. I have no emotional investment in echoes.

[imzadi]

Thats fine neither do I but still prudent to mention there is precedent anyways.

[Shin Magmus]

I actually really like Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

[arcane]

live footage of me being reined in by nice master googly

[Super Atom]

2 hours ago, arcane said:

live footage of me being reined in by nice master googly

 

This is getting weird, you sure you don't play on everlasting???

[Glacier Peak]

[DrRocket]

On 7/17/2025 at 12:18 PM, Rudra said:

I'm not a dev, but there are some things you don't seem to understand about the forums, so I'm going to reply to you.

 

The devs are all unpaid volunteers devoting their free time to working on the game. They still have their jobs and families to deal with. The devs are free to accept any suggestion they want regardless of how any of the rest of us feel about said suggestion. However, there is nothing prohibiting us from either pointing out that the devs having limited time and/or availability to work on a suggestion. There is also no prohibition on anyone stating whether or not that person feels a suggestion is worth a dev's limited time to work on. No one can speak for a dev other than that dev, but that does not mean others are not allowed to take the devs' position into consideration for their replies.

 

Correct, we are not voting on any suggestion, unless that suggestion includes a poll. However, saying things like "I'm okay with it" or "it's a no" is a declaration of how that poster feels about the suggestion. So if someone says anything like "it's a no"? That is that person stating their opposition to the idea. Which is a perfectly valid way to give an opinion on something. And as the "Concerning this forum" pinned thread says, we don't have to give a reason why we oppose a suggestion.

 

Everyone is free to post any responses to any suggestions they want as long as they are not attacking the person making the suggestion. Naysayers most definitely have a part in any suggestion discussion. We play the game too. So we get as much say in a suggestion as the person making the suggestion. Just because the person that posts a suggestion really, really, really likes their suggestion does not mean anyone else does. And since those suggestions will impact all of us, we all get a say as response. In the end it is up to the devs to decide what they will or won't work on. And those in favor of and against the suggestion get a voice about everything because again, we all play this game and we all will be affected by what is added to it.

 

Rudra, while you are in the ballpark, what you missed is the part of constructive criticism. I agree with the poster that the community should be more constructive and come up with ways to make the suggestion good all the way. Unfortunately, it is way too easy to criticize than build.

[Troo]

12 hours ago, TheMoneyMaker said:

Don't you mean "Same bait time, same bait channel"?

 

Reading this again.. it sounds like one of those naughty channels hotels used to have.

[TheMoneyMaker]

9 minutes ago, Troo said:

 

Reading this again.. it sounds like one of those naughty channels hotels used to have.

That would be the bate channel

[Starhammer]

On 7/17/2025 at 2:01 PM, GM_GooglyMoogly said:

 

All that said, there are more arguments in Suggestions and Feedback than in other subforums.  Part of that may be the posters that frequent this subforum, but it's also a function of the reason for the subforum -- someone wants the game to change in some way. 

 

Some folks don't want the game to change at all.  That's a fair position to have.  But the game IS going to change regardless.  New content will be created and changes to existing content happens.

 

My main problem is when arguments become personal and heated.  Debate the point not each other.  Be excellent to each other! 

 

I also would prefer if a few posters didn't have a back and forth argument and drown out everyone else.  You don't have to respond to every statement made.  But that's just a preference, not a rule.

I just want to say I really enjoy seeing your post in bigger letters, a different font, and bold yellow colors. It makes it stand out nicely. 

These walls of text can be such walls of text sometimes...

[Forager]

So what we've learned so far.

 

On 7/17/2025 at 5:01 PM, GM_GooglyMoogly said:

There is no prohibition to posters stating that the devs are volunteers and have limited time.  But at least one Dev has stated that such arguments hold no weight for them.  They decide what is worth their time or not.

 

[Forager]

And...

 

On 7/18/2025 at 6:02 PM, Player-1 said:

People are free to discuss how hard something would be to implement. At the end of the day though they aren't the ones who need to tackle the implementation. 

 

[Forager]

So we have some evidence that the talking point could be put to rest. You're allowed to continue using it, of course. I understand that it's very important for some of you that we reiterate a few times that you're allowed. You're allowed. It's allowed.

 

Just because something is pointless doesn't mean you have to quit. It's your time. Have fun!

Edited 22 hours ago by Forager

[UltraAlt]

On 7/17/2025 at 3:16 PM, Forager said:

Not to us.

 

Who is this "us" that you are speaking for?

[Forager]

25 minutes ago, UltraAlt said:

 

Who is this "us" that you are speaking for?

 

People with no knowledge or insight into the development process. People who don't know what the devs can, can't, will or won't do. People who don't know how those decisions are made. People that don't know that they don't know these things.

[golstat2003]

On 7/20/2025 at 12:40 PM, battlewraith said:

So what is the positive from telling people that in a suggestion thread? I would like to see (x) implemented in the game. Ok, if the devs like this idea you can maybe see them act on it in 4-5 years. Wouldn’t it be more enjoyable to have less restrictive and disincentivizing conversations?

 

There is nothing discentivzing or restrictive about keeping things real. The devs have said they decide if and when they implement any suggestions.

 

I like to deal in reality and not get people hopes up.

[golstat2003]

1 minute ago, Forager said:

 

People with no knowledge or insight into the development process. People who don't know what the devs can, can't, will or won't do. People who don't know how those decisions are made. People that don't know that they don't know these things.

 

Right, no one agreeing with, disagreeing with a suggestion, suggesting improvements to it, knows. So folks getting up in arms about what people discussing in this part of the forums is funny to me.

 

As others have said post what you want. If the devs decide to do it good on them. If they don't good on them.