CoH 2 What are the Chances

[MTeague]

Given magic wands and infinite dev teams that work together flawlessly, such a thing is in theory possible. And done right, it could be amazing. 

In the real world, not even a snowball's chance in hell. 

• NCSoft allowed Homecoming use of the City of Heroes license in part because they had no interest, corporately, in picking up development themselves. But NCSoft still owns the IP/franchise. No CoH2 could happen without NCSoft being involved and they're.... not interested. 
• If NCSoft did become convinced it was worth doing and there was huge money to be made, the first thing they would probably do is shut down Homecoming, and the player hate against NCSoft for a Second Snap, would be strong enough to shatter entire galaxies. It would become a matter of principle for a lot of us that we'd choke on it before NCSoft saw a penny from us (and I rather strongly suspect that's already the case for several...)

But OK, say for the sake of the argument, that NCSoft was not involved. Some other gaming studio, filled with only well meaning people, with no legal ties to NCSoft, took up the challenge, made their own game, from scratch. It would take them years to produce. Might it's draw be big enough to convince everyone to move over? Possibly. But I suspect whatever they produced would be casual-unfriendly, or filled with microtransactions, either one of which would make it dead to me.  

[MTeague]

1 hour ago, baster said:

I see a day in the near future say 5-10-15 years from now when AI is sophisticated enough that an average gamer will be able to direct such a AI from the comfort of his own basement to write a code for such game at a minute fraction of the cost. 

 

What you all think about that?.

 

My very honest opinion, is you've been fed too much Star Trek / Matrix / Hollywood / TV versions of AI. 

But by all means, prove me wrong. Dig deep into programming and AI, and produce it once you feel AI is up to snuff.

[baster]

2 hours ago, skoryy said:

 

Thanks for the heads-up.  Into the Ignore-O-Matic you go.

Wow talk about radical generation woke

[baster]

1 hour ago, MTeague said:

 

My very honest opinion, is you've been fed too much Star Trek / Matrix / Hollywood / TV versions of AI. 

But by all means, prove me wrong. Dig deep into programming and AI, and produce it once you feel AI is up to snuff.

 

Here is your proof.

 

Once man said, speed of sound can not be broken. It is a blasphemy to even propose such a thing.

 

Another man said, we'll my friend perhaps today that is true, but surly tomorrow it might be possible. And then........

 

It is not the closed minded, short sited pessimists and nay sayers that move humanity forward and push boundaries beyond what vast majority think possible but rather the open minded dreamers that dare to think for themselves inspite any and all tribal preasures trying to hold them back.

 

 

[srmalloy]

3 hours ago, Troo said:

IF possible, that AI cost would be significant, merely shifting buckets in a budget. There would still be a lot of foundational resources needed which have real cost.

And it has been reported that AI-driven code development carries significant additional costs to verify that the AI-generated code is actually doing what it was supposed to do. 

[MTeague]

3 hours ago, baster said:

Here is your proof.

 

Once man said, speed of sound can not be broken. It is a blasphemy to even propose such a thing.

 

Another man said, we'll my friend perhaps today that is true, but surly tomorrow it might be possible. And then........

 

It is not the closed minded, short sited pessimists and nay sayers that move humanity forward and push boundaries beyond what vast majority think possible but rather the open minded dreamers that dare to think for themselves inspite any and all tribal preasures trying to hold them back.

a) that's not proof of what is discussed in this thread. That's proof that other people were wrong about other stuff in the past. 

b) I never said it can't be done ever, I said in 15 years time?  I don't think so. 

c) I acknowledged I could be wrong, and said feel free to solo develop it with AI assistence in that amount of time. 

[UltraAlt]

On 8/1/2025 at 11:44 PM, baster said:

As the title says. What do you all think.are the chances of CoH 2 ever being made and what  will it take to get it off the ground?

 

CoV was CoH 2.

City of Heroes: Going Rogue was CoH 3

 

So I would not say "what are the chances", but instead "done did that".

 

On 8/1/2025 at 11:44 PM, baster said:

It would be great to hear from people in the  gaming bussiness, software bussiness or any related fields.

 

Since NCSoft owns the rights and thought CoH, CoV, and CoH:GR weren't making enough money for them, the local Korean gamers weren't into it, and sunset CoH even though the were making a profit ... do you really think they are going to release a CoH 2 (as you call it) or let some other company do it?

... and if they did, how many of us would move from this wonderful totally free to play game to F2P with possibly some kind of subscription plan and tons of microtransactions? 

 

On 8/1/2025 at 11:44 PM, baster said:

Is there any possibility to use kick starter or any similar platform to make this happened  maybe?

 

Why would you want to make it happen?

 

Kickstarter does seem to be a good way to leech money from people. I will give you that.

[MoonSheep]

On 8/2/2025 at 6:24 AM, lyra said:

Why would you need it? What would you change?

 

i would make a game where things are more expens.. no wait nevermind

 

@Troo