New Version of Darkir's Kintank, blow **** up and survive (hardcap+softcap s/l and ranged def, 200%+ rech)

[Max Firepower]

17 hours ago, Darkir said:

Its crap, don't use it after the changes drop. I'll post a different build when I figure out which direction I think is best. 

*grumbles to himself* power with just 50% uptime with good recharge being nerfed into the ground, even though it takes a 3 power choice investment, two of which I never use, *grumble* ridiculous *grumble* let's all just take maneuvers, CJ, hasten, and weave and never customize *grumble* overperforming power my ass *grumble* melee ATs running around with better survivability and mez protection at all times *grumble* wtf are the devs thinking *grumble* why even ask for feedback if they don't listen to the community *grumble* corrs already in a difficult position finding a place in the game *grumble*

This is a pretty good summation of what the Devs probably ought to consider. It's not wrong.

 

And I prefer Tanks and Brutes... but this is a clear issue.

Edited April 13, 2021 by Max Firepower

[Darkir]

(old version and post here when RoP was still usable, new ideas in first post)

 

My old Kintank builds had a problem, I keep getting hit by pure damage type ranged attacks. This could not stand ladies and gentlemen, how could I be a Kintank if I kept getting hit from accross the room? Forcing me to heal myself more often than I'd like (healing is lame guys, I want to pew pew). I set out to rectify this situation. 

 

This is the newest build and now we have damn near softcapped ranged and fully capped s/l defense. This essentially makes us softcapped to 90-95% of all the attacks in the game because almost all melee attacks have an s/l component and most AoE attacks have a ranged/melee/s/l component. We still get good resistances and mez protection from rune of protection, but now even less attacks get to even hit us in the first place. With two siphon speeds up we have perma hasten. We also are at the acc cap to +3s and our repel still provides knockdown mitigation while proccing the +100% FF recharge IO. This build is capable of handling almost all content solo at +4x8. Dark Astoria at +4x8 is a little more difficult because you need to use some purples, but it is very doable. If you want to solo +4 AVs then you'll want at least aim, if not siphon power also. Once you have fulcrum shift, siphon power becomes useless outside of AV/GM fights, so I don't take it. 

 

Oh, and yes you can get more ST dps on hard targets with flares over fireblast. I take fireblast because I pretty much exclusively use fireblast/flares to kill runners when scourging is very likely and with fireblast I only have to cast it to kill +4 things most of time, but with flares I need it and something else. Oh! And of course we are at the movement speed cap with sprint+ninja run+siphon speed so I do not find that super speed is necessary.

 

In comparison to the previous build we lose some resistance, but gain the ranged softcap and get 10% more recharge to boot.

 

So, yeah, new and improved Kintank build:

 

 

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Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Sorcery
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Fire Blast -- SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(17)
Level 1: Transfusion -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(11), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), NmnCnv-Heal(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15)
Level 2: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(3), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Rgn-Knock%(11)
Level 4: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(5), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(7), Rct-ResDam%(7), Ksm-ToHit+(50)
Level 6: Rain of Fire -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(9), Artl-Dam/Rech(23), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(48), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(48), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(48)
Level 8: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 16: Tough -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(34), GldArm-RechEnd(37), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(37), GldArm-ResDam(39), GldArm-3defTpProc(39)
Level 18: Blaze -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(34)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(21), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(27), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(27), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(29)
Level 22: Weave -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(25), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def(37), RedFrt-EndRdx(39), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 24: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 26: Blazing Bolt -- StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(A), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(40), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(40), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), StnoftheM-Dam%(43)
Level 28: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(29)
Level 30: Rune of Protection -- RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(A), RctArm-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RctArm-ResDam(31)
Level 32: Inferno -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Dam%(45), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Arm-Acc/Rchg(46), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(46), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(50)
Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(36)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Transference -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(43)
Level 44: Repel -- EndRdx-I(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(45), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(45)
Level 47: Increase Density -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Quick Form 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge 
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(25)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 0: Invader 
Level 0: High Pain Threshold 
Level 0: Born In Battle 
Level 0: Marshal 
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
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Edited April 23, 2021 by Darkir

[DarknessEternal]

On 7/17/2019 at 1:19 AM, Darkir said:

Ok, rune of protection has been nerfed into the ground and is not longer worth the 3 power investment
 

Your latest post of the "new" build later in the previous post still takes it.  Maybe you meant to call it the old build?

Edited April 24, 2021 by DarknessEternal

[Darkir]

3 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Your latest post of the "new" build later in the previous post still takes it.  Maybe you meant to call it the old build?

I did. At the very top of the last post I say "(old version and post here when RoP was still usable, new ideas in first post)"

 

I've always put the newest things in the original post and the old build in a new post in this thread.

[DarknessEternal]

Ah, forgive my misreading.

 

Aren't Rain of Fire and World of Confusion working at cross purposes?  Doesn't matter what's confused when they're just running away anyway.

 

Also, the psy mastery build isn't legal.  You don't get slots at 47.

Edited April 25, 2021 by DarknessEternal

[Darkir]

8 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Also, the psy mastery build isn't legal.  You don't get slots at 47.

respec legal. 

 

8 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Aren't Rain of Fire and World of Confusion working at cross purposes?  Doesn't matter what's confused when they're just running away anyway.

No, confusion doesn't make them run, it makes them attack another enemy. 

[Parasite]

In your "Whirlwind bitches" build you have both whirlwind and repel. Is there any value in taking both as they seem to do the same thing? Does something crazy happen when both are applied?

[DarknessEternal]

11 hours ago, Darkir said:

No, confusion doesn't make them run, it makes them attack another enemy. 

Rain of Fire makes them run.

[micros]

On 11/19/2020 at 7:44 PM, Darkir said:

Remember that you only need to get to 45% fire defense for a farmer. Anything after that is wasted. You can do things a bit differently in order to get more recharge.  Here is my fire farming build for reference:

 

 

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Level 50 Mutation Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Flares -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(17), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(31)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(27), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(40), Prv-Absorb%(40)
Level 2: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(3), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Rgn-Knock%(39), Ann-ResDeb%(50)
Level 4: Repel -- EndRdx-I(A), ExpStr-Dam%(5), FrcFdb-Rechg%(9), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(50)
Level 6: Rain of Fire -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(21), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(23)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(11), Ksm-ToHit+(42)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(A), AbsAmz-Stun(15), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(48), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(48), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(50)
Level 14: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(15)
Level 16: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Blaze -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(29)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(A), WntGif-ResSlow(46)
Level 22: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(36), Ags-ResDam(36), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Ags-Psi/Status(37), GldArm-3defTpProc(43)
Level 24: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 26: Blazing Bolt -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Apc-Acc/Rchg(31), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(36)
Level 28: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(31), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Rct-ResDam%(43), Rct-Def/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Inferno -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(33), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Arm-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34)
Level 35: Transference -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Consume -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(A), FuroftheG-Dam/Rech(42)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(45), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam(46), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge 
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(48)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), PrfShf-End%(23), PrfShf-EndMod(39)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 50: Void Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
Level 0: Invader 
Level 0: High Pain Threshold 
Level 0: Born In Battle 
Level 0: Marshal 
Level 1: Quick Form 
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Just a question any updates to you farm build after the new patch?

[Bronana16969]

Does anyone have a spicy archery/kin build after the changes? I want to play a 'rain of arrows go brrrrrrrrrrrr' toon.

[Crysis]

On 5/9/2021 at 3:42 PM, Bronana16969 said:

Does anyone have a spicy archery/kin build after the changes? I want to play a 'rain of arrows go brrrrrrrrrrrr' toon.

I don’t but given all the fuss over Fold Space I’m wondering if it would be a viable Fold Space + Fulcrum + Nuke gimmick?

[x111jrp2]

Just looking over the water/kin build, is there anything you would change to make it all round PvE rather than a farm build?

[Glowman]

@Darkir, how big a deal is repel in your build with psi? Thinking about going hover for CJ and flight instead of Repel, but wanted to make sure it wouldn't wreck things. 😛 Not really planning on farming with it.

Edited June 29, 2021 by Glowman
Forgot something...

[SmalltalkJava]

On 6/29/2021 at 3:53 PM, Glowman said:

@Darkir, how big a deal is repel in your build with psi? Thinking about going hover for CJ and flight instead of Repel, but wanted to make sure it wouldn't wreck things. 😛 Not really planning on farming with it.

I built that build on the test server and did some runs with repel turned off. It went ok.   But try it out on the test server.   With the new mids build exporter it's easy to build.  It creates a popmenu to create all of the IO's

[Renderman201]

Recently started using your Psychic mastery build in the main post, and while it's hilariously strong, I'm missing a lot, and anything with mez or knockdown just destroys me. Am I doing something wrong?

 

Really fun build!

[Elia87]

Sorry guys im new to the fire/kin club..anyone care to explain which among the mentioned builds is best for endgame only content? Possibly fire farms too?? Thanks do much!

[Maj]

@Darkir have you got or can you make a Dual Pistol corruptor farming build that would be best for farming, money is no issue, can be kinetics or anything just looking for a really good dual pistol build that can fire farm comfortably and do it well

[Uun]

I'm leveling an Ice/Kin/Mace for team play, currently at lvl 43. I'm bouncing around a couple of different ideas for my last 3 powers and looking for feedback.

1. Combat Teleport/Teleport Target/Fold Space. Both Combat Teleport and Fold Space seem like they would work well with Fulcrum Shift, but curious how they work in practice. Has anybody actually done this? Is it worth 3 power picks?
2. Web Envelope/Focused Accuracy/Summon Disruptor. Largely went Mace for the defense shield. Are the other powers any good? Other than keeping stuff in Ice Storm, is there a need for an AoE immobilize? Is the pet any good? Don't really need another ST hold.
3. Maneuvers/Tactics/Combat Teleport. The fallback safe picks.

[Darkir]

On 4/25/2021 at 5:10 AM, Parasite said:

In your "Whirlwind bitches" build you have both whirlwind and repel. Is there any value in taking both as they seem to do the same thing? Does something crazy happen when both are applied?

Crazy amounts of knockdown and recharge, but you must use ageless to keep it running and even then when you are surrounded you may need to use transference.

[Darkir]

On 4/25/2021 at 11:39 AM, DarknessEternal said:

Rain of Fire makes them run.

Yeah, they run, they fight, it doesn't matter, as long as they aren't attacking you and I also don't really use RoF that much as I prefer to just fireball, but you want the bonuses

[Darkir]

On 5/8/2021 at 1:57 PM, micros said:

Just a question any updates to you farm build after the new patch?

I don't think so......what happened?

[Darkir]

On 6/29/2021 at 1:53 PM, Glowman said:

@Darkir, how big a deal is repel in your build with psi? Thinking about going hover for CJ and flight instead of Repel, but wanted to make sure it wouldn't wreck things. 😛 Not really planning on farming with it.

its fine, but you will find yourself taking more dmg and not having as much recharge when you go into a mob without a tank. To me, its night and day.

Edited January 5, 2022 by Darkir

[Darkir]

On 7/24/2021 at 4:36 AM, Renderman201 said:

Recently started using your Psychic mastery build in the main post, and while it's hilariously strong, I'm missing a lot, and anything with mez or knockdown just destroys me. Am I doing something wrong?

 

Really fun build!

is tactics on?

 

[Darkir]

On 10/11/2021 at 2:42 AM, Elia87 said:

Sorry guys im new to the fire/kin club..anyone care to explain which among the mentioned builds is best for endgame only content? Possibly fire farms too?? Thanks do much!

Probably the scorpion or pyschic mastery one.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Darkir

[StriderIV]

2 hours ago, Darkir said:

Probably the scorpion or pyschic mastery one.

Missed seeing your posts Darkir! I love your Water/Cold Corruptor. How do you feel it measures up to your Fire/Kin Corruptor?