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  2. Now that prices seem to be normalizing, the build project that I've had in the back of my head for two years seems feasible. I've never built my own before so I could certainly use any and all help/advice. My rough budget is $1,000 but that is not a hard limit. I'd like a reliable, long-lived build that I can use for general productivity, potentially some video editing, and gaming. I mostly plan to play older games but would like the option to play some newer games (even if I need to dial back the settings a bit). I've done a fair bit of research, including quite a few YouTube videos and browsing some build guides on PCPartsPicker. I've put together a rough build (linked below) that I think gets me in the ballpark. I have parametric selections for most parts so you can see some of the options I am considering, and I am not necessarily leaning towards the lowest price option for each component, but that's how the site displays them. EDIT: Now that I am done, I've changed the link to represent my final build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/AboveTheChemist/saved/C2N3wP For those that don't want to click the link, here's what I chose: Feel free to comment on or give advice in relation to the build above if you like. It was my first and I am more than happy with it, although as time has progressed I see a couple of things I might have tweaked. The original RAM and SSD I bought were replaced with the options above, because I found better options after I made those purchases. I'll put the original purchases to good use, though. I enjoyed the process so much that I decided to put together a small form factor build using a mini-ITX motherboard and an APU with no discrete GPU. I plan to install Linux on that machine, maybe put a few old games on it (and at least try CoH on it), and possibly let my wife use it as a potential replacement for her aging MacBook Air. I also have been helping a family friend with tight budget gaming PC build and I am really happy with what we put together for that computer.
  3. I generally have a parts list for people looking to build a so-called "bare bones" rig that rages CoH. One thing I've avoided is that there are PREBUILTS that actually have a nearly identical layout. Ryzen 5 5600G Hex-Core CPU 8GB RAM (BARE MINIMUM, recommend bumping to 16GB when money allows) 500/512 GB SSD (recommend bumping to 1TB to extend lifespan of the drive, and you can use the 512 as additional cold storage) These builds use the IGPU on the 5600G's die. And these are MicroCenter systems. So if you're risk averse, you have a location that can service you. And their warranty ROCKS. https://tinyurl.com/Ryzen5-5600G-Boxes $560+tax/warranty/etc. Now, if you're running lots of VMs. SQL server, etc. Any business computer-heavy loads, these are NOT the machines you want. But as the baseline for a general productivity/gaming box, this is BIGTIME bang for the buck.
  4. *le sigh* Of Course they're discounting right now...like I needed to do a new build anyway.
  5. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-is-now-selling-ryzen-7-5800x3d-for-329 AMD has implemented some major discounts on their Zen3 processors. Lower prices have now been updated on the official AMD US store. While most CPUs were seen with lower prices already, the most interesting SKU equipped with 3D V-Cache is now discounted to $329. This is the lowest price for this CPU according to multiple price trackers. AMD Ryzen 5000 pricing (official US store): Ryzen 9 5950X: $799 → $549 ($250 discount) Ryzen 9 5900X: $549 → $349 ($200 discount) Ryzen 7 5800X3D: $449 → $329 ($120 discount) Ryzen 7 5800X: $449 → $249 ($200 discount) Ryzen 5 5600X: $299 → $159 ($140 discount) AMD Ryzen 5000 series pricing, Source: AMD So overall, AMD is lowering prices on their CPUs by up to $250 for the 16-core part and $120 for the 5800X3D. Even the 5600X is now $140 cheaper. Furthermore, AMD is also giving away Uncharted Legacy with all purchases of Ryzen 5000 series through this store. These are the lowest prices for 5800X3D in the US right now. MicroCenter’s price is $369, Amazon is selling this CPU at $349, while Newegg has it listed at $331, however not all stores have them in stock. A quick look at other markets shows that 5800X3D is also getting cheaper in Europe, it recently dropped from €349. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D is an 8-core CPU with additional 64MB of L3 Cache. This processor is considered a great choice for gaming on the AM4 platform and, unlike the new Ryzen 7000 CPUs and AM5 motherboards, does not require expensive DDR5 memory.
  6. Well, the AMD lineup has dropped. $1000 for the 7900 XTX $900 for the 3900 XT No clue on actual performance yet. The specs look to be great. Now to see if the driver stack can actually handle it.
  7. I mean, you kinda have to do slots +1 because of airflow, so there's that.
  8. No. Don't make it any worse than it already is. The widest I've seen thus far is 3.65 slots. But, realistically, anything over 3.0 slots is 4 slots.
  9. Heh, some of those cards are ACTUALLY closer to 5 slots wide. 😛
  10. It's looking like NVIDIA (and by extension, the board partners) got caught with their pants down on the cooling solution. Basically, mid-way through bringing the 4000 series to market, they switched manufacturers and manufacturing process. Previously, the chips had some fairly sizeable thermal demands. Hence the giant, case-filling cooling solutions. But the process switch brought all of that under control. But too late to change cooler design. So you have these cards 3090 Strix vs 3080 3080FE vs 4090FE 3080 vs 4090 Strix 4090FE vs 4090 Strix And note: The actual "CARD" (the PCB) is only roughly HALF the length of the FE unit! But the Asus unit? 14 INCHES LONG! (Bow chicka bow wow!) And most of the cards? 3.5 slots. The other Asus SKU? The TUF line? 3.65! PS5 vs 4090 Strix vs 3090 Strix. I think second-gen SKUs will be slimmed down by a much more modest cooler. And water cooling rigs will be downright SLIM
  11. Well so long as they put the GPU on its own PSU (and breaker), separate from their CPU, then they're golden. 😛
  12. See what all the alt-coin mining gets them?
  13. The long and short of it. NVIDIA RTX 4090. Total halo product. HUGE performance. But MASSIVE power draw. 470W! That's more than the rest of your system! Overclocked? 670W! Now, unless you're running 4K in EVERYTHING, there is precisely ZERO VALUE PROPOSITION You're simply better off buying an older product from down the stack.
  14. I guess that explains why all these boards seem to lack slots in general then if the cards are so big.
  15. Essentially 4-6 expansion ports FOR A SINGLE VIDEO CARD! Not FANS. SLOTS! What the ever-loving hell? You may hear "3 slot". Nonono. Most of them are 3.SOMETHING. Meaning you can't use slot 4. So, essentially it's a 4 slot card.
  16. You can still get one on Newegg. EVGA's site is OUT. They have regular, non-TI 3080's in stock. But pretty much everything else is GONE.
  17. Not that I had the $$ before, but with EVGA pulling out, I kinda wish I had a 30 ti now from them.
  18. Yeah. And the power draw on these cards is going to be ridiculous. Basically they're saying MSRP will be $899 for the 12GB 4080. Realistically, you're talking $1000 all said and done. Sorry, but those prices are, as the commercial says, INSAAAAANE!!!
  19. Covered already very well buy these two, but the gist is that EVGA won't be making 40 series cards, but will support existing customers by keeping part of their existing inventory for RMA purposes.
  20. I went that Whole video like "I know this voice..." and then their page demo vid had the list of names. "Oh, that's Wendell!". I'm not sure if he worked with Linus a while back or what, but I remember him being like the IT version of that Tool Time neighbor in that we never saw his face. Might have been working somewhere that really wouldn't want to see him on youtube. NeWay, yeah, LTT talks about ZedFS a lot (hurts my ears everytime it's said >.<), but certainly, it would make more sense for the FS to be the thing to handle stuff since it's already handling the data itself. I know my current board has the option for RAID built into the controllers too, but I don't think each controller can handle more than like 4 drives anyway. In the end, I think it'll probably be the board handling all this (once I can afford a newer build and scavenge from this one) later.
  21. In the many things I watched, one of the big tech reviewers (GN I think they're called) said it seems like the Synology units have power issues after not very long in service. They had multiple units (of different models / owners) fail all within like 6 months of service. Otherwise, they looked nice with the whole hot-swap / rebuild method. The data's not really being accessed much at all, so it'd be more of an archive. Give or take me adding ISOs or Finally getting on that media archive project. It sounds like the recommendation here is to get the 4-bay unit though, even if I'm not yet using that many drives. As for RAID itself, I thought it was best to have these things in pairs +1 for parity? I've read that RAID 5/6 are designs to be avoided and I think I remember RAID 10 (1+0?) being the best for redundancy / recoverability. I stumbled into the software RAID world around the time I came across the (don't laugh) LTT videos on the horror stories Linus has heard about standard raid (parity drive pushes corrupted data to good drive, etc). The RAID F1 vs SHR was interesting to read through and the advantage (when using the boxes) seems there for sure.
  22. And yes, I KNOW this isn't a "cheap" solution. I've seen WAY too many people try the "cheap" solution and get themselves burned. BADLY. Suddenly that data they "didn't really need" is irreplaceable. And do you know how much hard drive recovery costs?

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