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No, lol, that is not what a nerf is. That’s just the definition of.. idk.. a change? A change can be a buff or a nerf. This one is firmly within “obviously a net buff” IMHO.

Calling this a nerf is honestly hilarious. Revert the whole thing and let toggles drop again if you’re so intent on sinking a buff. I’ll take the generous buff but will be fine either way.

Considering I’ve never made this conversion, nothing will change. It’s pretty damn hard to run out of Incarnate-related uses for empyreans unless you’re one of those mystical unicorns that doesn’t like alts.

Did I make that point? I’m pretty sure I didn’t make that point. So no idea why you’re associating me with it.

Saying things like “effectively +0” or “effectively -1” for difficulties like +2 or +3… is adding layers of confusion since I’m trying to ask if people are struggling at base difficulty or only at higher difficulties. It’s not yet clear to me that people are actually struggling at base difficulty because of that added confusion?

So you’re saying this content was difficult for veteran players when set to +0x1 no bosses? If so, yeah, that’s too much.

Good luck doing that as reliably as an afk farmer

From how I was reading it, it sounds like he needs all his attacks to have the same range, even if that means a slight range nerf to his longest range stuff.

5s of suppression sounds way better than having to retoggle. A fine buff, thank you.

It will no longer detoggle very soon.

Did you try reducing your difficulty settings??? Like not just the no bosses part, but the level etc? I see a 54 in a picture?

Yeah I don’t think I have anything that is built entirely around pylons. I might build heavily towards single target DPS but not past the point where I’m skipping my main AoE’s or other critical powers entirely. All of my builds in this thread gotta make appearances in real content too…

Good lord we’re really in a “facts care about my feelings” kind of environment here aren’t we. Can you guys just start talking about the flat earth already.

Merely stating plain old facts is the best way to farm them. For example, stating “the devs do not have a gun to your head and cannot force you to do anything you do not want to do” is like the Rad/Fire Brute of 👎 farmers. I’ve thought about trying “the sky is blue” but don’t want to overload the servers.

Do you mind if we use this thread as another 👎 farm?

Ok I’ll bite… why is the per hour not 60x the per minute?

Changing incentives is something every MMO dev team does. It is not nefarious, and it does not force players to do anything.

I think some of us just find it fun to have an easily measurable performance metric whose limits one can push. A modest hit of dopamine for successfully getting a good score, too.

Anyone who thinks “how they spend their time” is being impacted against their will: it’s on you to show us the gun to your head. I don’t see it.

I have good news! No one is being “herded” or coerced into anything by this patch. The very slight shift in incentive structure will impact your ability to solo in exactly zero ways!

I doubt you know much of anything about me. That much is obvious. But there’s a couple of assumptions nested here that are plainly wrong: (1) all currencies must be useful to everyone. No, if you literally won’t engage with a currency’s primary use, the currency is allowed to be useless. There are currencies I do not use in this game, and you can see that I do not complain about the consequences of my own choice not to use them. (2) empyreans will be useless once incarnates are done. Wrong. Empyreans can be emailed to alts. We have 5,000 character slots with a lot of incarnate power options for each, so, as far as I know, no player in HC history has literally run out of use for empyrean merits. Were that answer not good enough, you can trade your empyreans for threads and cash those in for ultimate inspirations which sell well on the market, meaning empyreans still have a straight cash value.

Casual players wouldn’t have so many empyrean merits lying around that they don’t need them for incarnates. From what I can tell the people complaining about the change have been pretty wealthy on average.

Are they buffing Flash Freeze? O:

Convert your emps to threads and then to ultimates if you still need emps to = cash.