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Okay. I missed that. I apologize.

THERE's the quote I was trying for!!!

🤣🤣🤣 You "answered" by going back to edit your post after the question was asked and then quoting yourself!!!! That's funny as hell! I mean, aside from the fact it doesn't actually answer @ClawsandEffect's question..... (Edit: Dang it. The quote didn't take?!) No.... that would be the argument you are making: that you can't stand a visual so you want it to go away so you don't have to see it so you can keep using a flight power that doesn't use up a power choice slot.

Okay. Done. Easy. Next?

So how is jetpack not fitting your theme then? If your characters that fly as part of their powerset take Fly or Mystic Flight and the characters that don't have flight as part of their powerset buy the jetpack, then things are already working the way you want. Characters that don't have flight as one of their own powers went out and bought a jetpack for when they suddenly find themselves needing it. It fits your theme then.

Huh, are you sure? Because I just visited the tailor and I can't even find Athletic Run to do anything with on a character I bought it from the vendor for. So I can't cusotmize my Athletic Run at all. How are you doing it? Yep, you can buy a Goldbricker jetpack and wear a Goldbricker jetpack to fly around and you can buy a Longbow jetpack and wear a Longbow jetpack to fly around and you can buy a Jingle Jetpack and wear a Christmas-y jetpack to fly around and you can buy a standard jetpack and wear a standard jetpack to fly around. All makes sense to me. So if you want a magic-themed jetpack, describe it and maybe the devs will make it. A no jetpack version of jetpack though is called Fly or Mystic Flight.

Do you know what the difference between buying Beast Run, Athletic Run, or Ninja Run versus buying Jetpack is? There isn't one. Beast Run locks your character into a bestial stance and movement while it is active, because it is a beast run. Ninja Run locks your character into a stylized anime ninja stance and movement while it is active, because it is a ninja run. Athletic Run lacks those factors because it is athleticism that is not on par with any super powers. Jetpack locks you into a jetpack because it is a jetpack. (Edit: If you want a flight power that you can customize, then take Fly or Mystic Flight.) All Temp Powers have a specific visual tied to their name and function. As for your Willpower Scrapper comparison? You are comparing a character's inherent AT powers to a temp power. Apples to oranges.

That is what the power slots are for.

Because you are buying a jetpack. It is not an inherent to character power. It is a jetpack you bought from a vendor.

I'm neither trolling nor lacking in understanding in this thread. My point is simple: If you want an alternate jetpack, then that is fine. Provide something to detail what you want. If you want no jetpack, then get Fly or Mystic Flight. To me, it's that simple. Why should anyone bother taking Fly or Mystic Flight if they can get the same power at a very slight increased END cost from P2W?

We have hoods. What's your point? (Edit: And hats and hoods are not the same thing.) Edit again: Look, if you want an obviously magic themed jetpack that is not the Jingle Jet, no one is going to say no. Describe it. Provide a picture of what you are thinking. Give a reference.

No, if you want alternate visuals for the jetpack, then fine. If you want no visuals, then use what we already have available. Fly and Mystic Flight have no required visuals.

Have you thought about the Kris Kringle jetpack ala the Holiday Rocket Pack ala the Jingle Jet available in the Pocket D chalet? It's a magic jetpack. (Edit: And it lasts for 30 days of use per purchase.)

No. Just no. Just like I am opposed to combining all invention salvage into just Common, Uncommon, and Rare, I am opposed to generic-ifying incarnate salvage. Generic crafting is boring.

Then either I respec'ed those characters and forgot, or something happened to my characters and not yours. Either way, like I said in the PM, color me jealous.

No, with the request for a model-less jetpack, you are asking to get the Fly or Mystic Flight power without having to spend the power slot to get it. A natural character uses whatever that character's skills enable him/her/them/it to use. Doesn't matter if its magic, tech, Horror From Beyond Veil, or anything else. A mutant also uses tech. There is a dragon-themed villainous in Marvel comics who uses technology for her flight and her mutant powered blasts to attack. Science characters have no problem using technology. Technology is derived from science after all. Magic characters also use technology, though their power sources are arcane in nature. Technomancy is a thing. Same thing for characters finding, buying, being given, or otherwise possessing magic when their origin isn't magic. Same thing with mutation powers. Magic, science, and technology are commonly known to be used to cause intentional or unintentional mutations in others. So on and so forth. Your theme and the ability of your character to make use of available items in the game is entirely up to you, but to me, it looks like you are being willfully blind to just how expansive your theme actually is. Again, I am perfectly fine with alternate types of jetpacks. I would be very happy if the Void Skiff, Rocketboard, and Flying Carpet got the animations they needed to stop locking out player powers. A no jetpack version of the jetpack though is out of the question to me though.

So instead you came up with Wall of Spoilers. And I'm still trying to figure parts of it out....

Location AoEs also use the pet mechanic with their pseudo-pets. I agree with you that being able to improve the debuffs is preferred, by me at least, but what makes Storm Cell so complicated apparently is that it has multiple pet/pseudo-pet effects, so the devs locked out the always active and available effect for being able to be enhanced so that the sometimes triggers damage effect can be enhanced. I'm just hoping they find a solution fairly quickly so that the debuffs can be enhanced too. And given how damage focused some players are, I can at least understand why the devs did that.

This falls under the heading of 'So Disappointing I Just Want To Cry'. Thanks for the official answer though.

Change Machete to Gladius and you can call it the Roman Soldier set.

Barracuda's gimmicks used to be necessary to win. The devs changed that, back on Live I think, so that you no longer needed one of every type of AT to deal with the Reischmann at the end. You can just stomp him into the ground. (If the Barracuda SF is the SF I am thinking of....)

The OP works for me. Especially since I'm pretty sure incarnate Tsoo males have it already.

(And while I'm nitpicking - nope. Still had at least one legacy character at shutdown with old-fitness. You just could never *respec* them without losing it. Just a historical nitpick. It confused a few people near the end to see it...) I'd like to know how you pulled that off, even though it doesn't matter any more. Eventually, even without respec'ing, all my pre-inherent fitness characters wound up with inherent fitness. It was rather upsetting at the time. (Edit: I was rather proud of several of those characters. Everyone kept telling me that specific ATs using specific power sets could not be played without the Fitness pool, and I very much enjoyed running those ATs with those power sets without Fitness. Since those characters didn't have the Fitness pool though, they automatically had it forced on them since they lacked legacy Fitness to prevent it.)

Guess what. Your comment here is "argumentative" You don't get to decide whose input is welcome or whose is not. Everyone's input is welcome to any thread in these forums unless a GM or DEV decides otherwise. I missed that part. Thanks, @UltraAlt. As @UltraAlt said, @Mezicus, no one gets to decide who can or cannot post on a thread on the forums other than the devs and forum moderators/GMs. Posting on the forums is an open invitation for everyone to read and respond to the post. Whether they agree or disagree.

Did you have anything in particular in mind? (That usually helps get the ball rolling. I'm drawing a blank right now.)