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Sad face for "They nerfed your post!"

I think you were correct with "steal".

Go back and look. Again, my post says "how is that "fun"?" You even quote it, but, apparently, you can't understand what it says. You can't even answer my question, misread what it says, attack me, and expect me to answer your question? Maybe you might understand "What makes it "fun"?", but I'm over it. Goodbye.

And I never disagreed with that. I think doorsitting and farming is the problem and that it has been all along. DEVs could simply move good non-farming (aka DEVs Choice) missing into the game itself and then people could play them at any level. You could still make those missions, play them, and put them up to to be selected asa DEVs Choice award at level 50. Everyone could play them if they were added to normal content. And, yet, still it can't be explained why door sitting is fun. It is simply seen as a easy way to get levels without playing the game and/or even not even being at the keyboard. Rewards for no risk. Where is the risk versus reward ratio on that? And again. I'm not against good non-farming AE missions. I'm against abuse of the system. What my post does is bring out the people that defend the use of AE missions for lower level use. There are only 3-4 people that want to defend that use in a honest manner, and, if you read all the replies, I'm one of them. The others only want to make sure they can use it at lower levels for door sitting and that is why I keep bringing that up .... and why I haven't been bringing up "locking the AE to level 50's only" again. I made my point by bringing it up a single time. And I didn't even say do it. I said consider it ... which is to think about it ... and bring up debate about it. The post did exactly what I wanted it to do. The AE is used far more for abusing the system than it is for creative content, but I think we have all known that for a very long time.

Oh, awesome! after the update, hopefully, we will get the Rularuu invasion event happening!

I think we are running the same program, but the game is different. Farming in the AE doesn't follow the same rules (game) as the original City of Heroes content. PvP is a different game (rules) as well.

Who is defining "fun"? I asked "how is that "fun"?" You are simply being argumentative. You clearly haven't read what I have written. I can only assume that you feel attacked by my posts but lack the ability to explain what is "fun" about doorsitting for you and, therefore, have to go off on tangents and attack me in order to obfuscate that fact.

It's fun to ding. But dinging when you are actually running content is a much bigger thrill then getting your 20th ding for sitting around doing nothing. And so it sounds like no fun. But I don't understand why you do that if it is not fun. Oh, I see, you aren't actually playing so it makes no difference. You aren't even actually playing the game to lock your character name.

Unfortunately, that defeats the purpose. Which is to stop name hoarding which can be circumvented by doorsitting and leveling to 50. This is to make it more difficult to name hoard and to free up names of characters on inactive accounts. Initially, it will free up names on inactive accounts. After that, it is more about making it difficult to hoard names. Then another round of freeing up will happen after 1 year. In all honest, freeing up the name just makes it free so someone else can hoard it. It may be the name of that player's main character, but they are still holding the name so no one else can use it.

I don't think it is "fun". I think it's just for the easy-button power-leveling. Not even teaming. Just soaking up xp. /e facepalm Getting to 50 by actually playing the game is actually playing the game. This is the odd kind of a sense of accomplishment as you do nothing to get a reward. wow. I guess you are playing an entirely different game than I am playing. There is no argument about it. Door sitting to get to 50 is in no way an accomplishment. You did nothing to gain it other than simply being logged into the game and sitting at a door. It's the "I win" button with a timer on it. By like actually playing the game content?! What? That is no accomplishment. The stuffing those 50's are filled with is doorsitting. Nothing was earned. Nothing was fought for. ... but, yeah, you don't have to log in ever in order to keep your character name.

But will you admit that A LOT of door sitting goes on? And since so much of that goes on, how is that "fun"?

seriously? I thought this was a necro'ed thread. I immediately when to look how old it was.

Carnies and Vaz not getting enough love?

How exactly is doorsitting "fun"? And I agree that is the negative side of the equation. If only the DEVs had stuck to their guns on live and not allowed farming in the first place as they said that they would ... then reneged on it and deleted their posts about dropping the ban-hammer on those that were abusing the AE. As I stated in other posts, I have created AE missions as well. I think we both know that most non-Farming AE missions are overlooked by the majority of players and there is only very small minority of players that actually pay non-farming missions in the AE. Really, how could they? If you create something for the game, it belongs to the game by default ... at least, I'm pretty sure that is still in the EULA or TOS.

I have a bio for a character before they enter THE CITY. Heck, I have a bio for a character planned out even before I start making character. As for Mids, that isn't happening. Each of my characters is unique and I really have to have done something wrong to respec. I think I have repec'd less than 5 times since I've been back in THE CITY. I figure if something was a little off, that's just part how that character developed. If the name of the character is unique enough, you won't have to bother to make sure to log at any rate. It doesn't remove the name, it just lets those creating new characters get the name if it is on on their hot picks list or someone randoms it.

I have over 128 at this point. I don't power-level. I only have like 2 or 3 50s at this point. This policy will have little to no impact on me. If they would have kept the 2nd tier to level 20-?, the only impact would have been that I would likely level up some of my sub 20s. I keep some sub 20's to lead DFBs for new characters. I kind of feel a bit weird about leading them with a character that is over 20, but I know that it is good for the game to support low level characters (regardless of them being new players or not). I really don't do enough low level mission team leading. I need to get better at that.

How many characters is that? Stating that show perspective.

This is not entirely true. Someone that power-levels to 50 by doorsitting (and not playing the game to get there) feels a sense of superiority of those that are not level 50. Often times I have seen the bad behavior of level 50s that were most probably power-leveled to 50. People that have actually leveled to 50 know what it is like to be leveling up a character through lower level content. They know what it is like to have someone that is 50 come in and ruin the enjoyability of lower level missions. And that happens far too often. I don't farm, but make a huge amount of influence off farmers. I can't stop them from farming. They can't stop me from taking their influence from them. I'm not spamming in /LFG all day that I'm taking their influence from them, but I sure have to see all that Farm and doorsitter spam.

The AE isn't the game. The AE was added to the game. The standard for rewards should be the reward level set in the standard game content and not based on Fire Farming. And AE content is obviously surpassing the rewards gained for standard game content and that's why the rewards for AE need to be reduced for AE content that is built to abuse the system. And that is exactly what Farming in the AE is has been the whole time - creating and running missions to gain better rewards than the AE was intended to reward.

Back during the late 2000/early 2010's Recession when I couldn't find decent employment due to deciding to change jobs at absolutely the wrong time, I came to a point where my computer said it was find to upgrade to Windows 10 both by Toshiba and by Microsoft. After three times of installing Windows 10, Windows 10 crashing completely, reinstalling Windows 8, reinstalling Windows 8.1, and reinstalling Windows again both Toshiba and Microsoft posted that my computer was not compatible with Windows 10. I had to reinstall Windows 8 and reinstall Windows 8.1 another 3 or 4 times. I had to replace the hard drive and reinstall again in order to get the computer working, by that time the process had somehow damaged my graphics card so I could no longer play the game that I was playing at the time. It took me like 6 months to save up enough money to get a computer so I could play the game again. Ended up playing some other less graphic intensive games in the meantime. So yeah, I have been there, but I try to log my characters up to 20 most of the time before they go into rotation. I do have a handful that are sub 20, but, hey, I'm an Altoholic. I play the 100+ characters I have as I have a whim for it. Some of my sub 20's at this point are for my Origin Quest project. ... and it's getting to a slogging phase even around level 10 for those 5 characters, but It wouldn't have been a hassle to log that handful (well maybe 2 handfuls) of characters that I have that are sub 20, and I may have leveled some of them up to 20 to avoid the hassle when that was still the base for 365 days. Is it name squatting to make some many characters? I don't think so. we have 1000 slots. I'm not putting my name on a character just to seize control of the name. I'm making characters that I play when I get the whim or if they are in rotation. Some characters get more play than others because I often get on a project with a friend and stick with a character from level 1 to level 50. At level 50 is when my characters go into the storage closet, but level 50's always get to keep their names. Somehow that is ironic to me.

I guess you need to level them up to 6 in case of a 31 day emergency .... if you think that is likely.

yeah, looks like, I have no idea how that happened I did the select text and hit on the quote selection. I'll see if I can fix it must have quoted it out of your post instead of their original post