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I'll say this though, there is a stronger argument for not changing the name that no one has cited: The CONCEPT of the set is still Shock Therapy even if the name gets changed. And although I clearly agree the name should be changed, I'm totally fine with the concept of the set, so I don't know what...lol

It isn't about offense. I'm not offended by the name. The name is a reminder of a deeply unpleasant history and present for some. Yes, we come to the game to escape all the real world crap, so let's not bring more real world crap into the game when it doesn't have to be.

The point is that it literally hurts NOTHING to change the name, but some of us are telling you it hurts us to call it that. There's not really anything else to say about it but that.

Do you find it funny when people mock and ridicule complaints about racism? If not, then why would you do the same for this?

I suggest you educate yourself on the utterly disgusting practice of electroshock therapy, for ANY purposes. Your comments are extremely ignorant, and frankly hurtful.

Do you feel that the change to Shadow Maul is enough for Stalkers? Since they don't get Dark Consumption? If we were redesigning Stalkers more generally I would want to see many of the older sets given a treatment like Ice Melee, where Assassins Strike replaces a single target attack instead of an AoE. Ninja Blade with Lotus Drops instead of Soaring Dragon, Energy Melee with Whirling Hands instead of Stun, etc.

I must echo others, please change the name.

Shock looks kind of worthless, but the rest of these additions and changes look great.

I don't think that's going to happen.

Well, that's a good change then. That proc should Definitely only be effecting pets, not players.

My argument would be that self defense itself is not a role. Active mitigation like CC is, because it protects the whole team. But most Blasters don't do enough active mitigation for it to really be an AT role. Therefore Blasters, like Scrappers, are pure dps, but Doms are a hybrid of some kind. And YES (good lord) I understand that ALL ATs can be hybridized to some extent, but that's not really the point. If you don't restrict the discussion to Primary/Secondary it becomes pointless.

What does this even mean? Is there a hard limit on how many threads the forums can have?

I found it to be an interesting discussion. And I find your rude dismissals of it distasteful. If you’re not interested in the discussion, why are you commenting?

Frankly, Sentinels need to be buffed so they do more damage (in most cases).

Frankly, most of the sets added during the secret are OP and should be nerfed. I doubt they Will be, but they should be.

If someone says "we could use some support" then "my Scrapper has Aid Other" is not an appropriate response. Yes, ATs are flexible. This game doesn't have or need the rigid class roles of other games. But that doesn't mean there's NO difference in what the ATs are capable of.

I'm confused. You quoted the text from the game and it says exactly what nzer said, build power Effect the pets, so what are you arguing about?

No one said anything like that, so I don’t know what your issue is. Taking power pool support abilities, as useful as they are, does not make you a “support” toon.

That is a pretty nifty idea. Nice one!

A what?

I don't think there's much disagreement. Aside from particular sets or powers that need help, the Melee ATs are fairly well balanced.

You don't like it != it's a mistake

so, since they have basically no effect on the game, are completely ignorable by those who want to, and those who like them (like myself) can choose to use that selection when desired, what is the mistake? Like, for it to be a mistake something would have to be Better if it wasn't there. But since it has no effect on anything, that isn't the case. So what's the mistake?

They have essentially 0 effect on anything, so what problem are you concerned with?

It has nothing to do with trinity. And it actually is exactly how people in CoH play. Some ATs can fill multiple roles, some can't (or effectively can't). Scrappers, Stalkers, Blasters, and Sentinels can only DPS. That is their role. They can help out here and there with a little aggro management, or a little debuffing, or a little control, but effectively they have one role. Tankers, Brutes, Defenders, Controllers, Dominators, and all the rest all can fill at LEAST two roles, sometimes more.