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Okay, I was under the impression that the Devs had plans on making pretty much all Immobs have a -Knock Back, to allow for Knock Down in place of KB when used. I'm not sure where I read it but I could have sworn that I read the Devs were lining up the other control sets to get that same update/mechanic.

I can get on board with that.

No, just going off the man's word.

You forgot harassed him for 6 months+ while threatening him, gathering information on where he lives and then posting it online for all to see, literally putting his life in danger.

I freak the f**k out and post the forums about it!

Oh I agree...but no matter what somebody does, they don't deserve to have their real life home address plastered on the internet. The response to his antics was pretty extreme, assuming it's true that is.

If that is what had happened, I don't recall him saying that in the video.

I don't think he crashed anything, I am fairly certain he formed his own Raid, had no idea that it was during a schedule that somebody else usually forms a raid at, and he beat them to it and it upset them. Now that is according to him and based on what he said. People saying he crashed a Raid is kind of silly to me, since nobody has the monopoly on a Hammi raid, at least nobody should.

To be honest, dude...I don't look unless I am given a reason to look. But again, it is what it is. We live in a peachy world full of peachy people playing a peachy game.

It is what it is, man. What can I fricken do about it? Not a damn thing...so it is what it is, my man.

As said before, there are tell tale signs when somebody has literally done nothing but PL to 50. They will have certain badges that give them credit for being in AE, they will literally have no other badges other than that because they have literally done nothing else but that. Combine that with the fact they have no clue how to get to Steel Canyon, it paints a pretty easy picture to see. I'm sorry, but I just can't excuse that as something other than what it is.

And you may be right. I mean, we each see the world from our own perspectives.

That is not my point though, man. Also, I don't assume that. My point is, is that there most certainly are new players who are being power leveled to 50...nobody seems to want to admit that though, they use these examples and think that it excuses any and all cases of PLed 50s.

Most people who are annoyed by sounds would probably just prefer that all sounds fade. So if this rings true, would it not be easier to just put that option in the Sound Menu to turn on or off all toggles to either fade or not fade sounds? It would be a lot less work on the Devs and all the sounds in game could return to normal. I think the same should be done for sounds that stack on multiple targets as well. There are those of us who are pretty butt hurt about losing the stacking sounds that have been lost over the years, would be nice to have an option for this as well.

Yeah, had no idea of the drama going on there. I don't mess with that website much. It came across on my Youtube feed, watched it and posted it. I most certainly did not expect this thread to blow up the way it did. I figured a few people would chime in and say a few words like, "Harassment of that level is bad, fair well PG" but didn't expect things to get carried away the way they have. In my opinion, this thread has gotten way out of hand. Kind of glad @GM Widower showed up to clean this thing up. It was needed.

To be honest, I was unaware of any other facts other than simply the video, which I did provide. It would seem most of you know more about what is going on than I did.

In all fairness, he did say that a lot of what happened was on him, I think his main issue is how people reacted to the things he has done...knowingly or unknowingly. And I agree with him. He's not perfect...nobody is. I don't think he believes otherwise. He did admit fault to his own mistakes and even understands that his logic may be flawed on some things. But that is not what it was all about. It was about how others behaved in response to the things he has done. I mean, when players are trying to find out where you live and post that information online for others to see, that puts your life at unnecessary risk. That is the kind of behavior that literally gets people killed. This is why I posted this, because people who behave in this way need to be held accountable.

Because I thought maybe...just maybe, people might be understanding and wish the guy the best, while agreeing that harassment of that level (considering if it is true) is never acceptable behavior. Clearly I was wrong.

Notice the only like you got was from me? That's because they don't care. All they cared about was somebody is quitting the game and it gives them a chance to make a smart ass comment and collect a few likes/laughing faces. I'm sure they will come back to tell me how wrong I am or something, but...I won't be convinced, it's their MO.

Almost sounds like a bad sexual encounter than a game, lol.

If what Positive Gamer is saying here is true, I have to say, shame on the people who behaved this way. Grown adults acting like teenage kids. Absolutely ridiculous. PG, if you ever see this, hope you come back one day and play the game. Don't let other people's drama run you off, my man. Good luck to you wherever you end up.

Have you ever studied Social Psychology? When people come to the forums to complain about Knock Back, and there have been a lot over the years, they tend to catch a lot of flack from the group of forum posters who love Knock Back...that's a lot of pressure to conform to the popular opinion on the forums. They come, and then they go because the most likely feel hammered on. I have even seen some players come to the forums, hate on knock back, get hammered on, then suddenly they change their opinion. That's how social constructs work. People tend to fall in to line when they are feeling attacked for not having the same behavioral patterns as the ones attacking them, in fact, they may pretend to, or change their overall personalities to better fit those around them. So to be fair, I cannot exactly hold what people say on forums as definitive proof. The only way I will know for sure, is to conduct my experiment and record my findings and then post them in full honesty and full transparency. Now, I highly doubt it will change my opinion on Knock Back, but, what it will do is either A: Prove to me that yes, people in game hate Knock Back enough to kick me, or yell at me, or B: Convince me that I am simply wrong about how others respond to Knock Back in game, and I need to stop claiming that people catch flack for it. I have seen it done, but I am willing to admit that it is possible that it was not done as much as I am remembering it being done. So this experiment will settle that one way or the other. And to be honest, playing with Knock Back will be a whole new world for me and I am looking forward to the experience. 🙂

I don't like being wrong, but to be honest with you, in this case I hope you are right, because I think it would be a lot of fun just playing with Knock Back without a care in the world, just play to have fun and not worry about stacking mobs or playing with any real strategies, basically play the way I played when this game was released, before I was even aware of the hatred for Knock Back. So in this case, I hope you are right and I am very wrong.

If Gravity had -Knock Back built in to the Immobilize, I would include Gravity in that, I personally think that is the only thing holding that set back from being among the list you have there. Fire is decent too, due to the controlled Knock Down and Stun ability, very helpful in controlling mobs once a good tank has them stacked nice and tight. I am really enjoying some of these more challenging mobs that we are seeing with Aeon. Controllers actually feel useful again with the more difficult Task Forces we are seeing. These mobs have more staying power, which means mobs don't get obliterated before a controller can cast any real control abilities.

Not trying to start an argument or anything, would just like to point out that most people pick up whoever asks to join. It's not often that people play without Tanks or Blasters. This argument doesn't even matter to be honest with you, because regardless of how much people can't stand chaotic play styles, it won't change anything. Simply put, the game went from a game that required player cooperation in order to achieve goals and there were serious consequences to playing the game "any way you want to" to a game that doesn't punish chaotic play styles in the slightest other than pissing off your team mates. Same can be said for knock back. In the old days, knock back came with consequences, teams were likely to give you the boot for using knock back in those days, these days there simply aren't any consequences other than annoying the hell out of your team mates and getting the boot for it is pretty rare. I have come very close to logging on my secret alt account, and rolling a knock back monster Storm/Energy Defender without any KB to KD's, and joining random teams while just playing the game. Not purposely trying to annoy my team mates, but just playing the game to have fun with knock back instead of being considerate and not using KB to KD's; just to see how much hate that garners me in actual game play reality and recording the experience. Call it an experiment if you will. I am very curious how much hate that would actually get me. There are a clan of people that are very vocal on these forums about saying, "Play the way you want to, knock back is the greatest thing since sliced bread" but in game, the experience will most certainly not reflect what is being said on these forums. I am certain if I played the way I want to without any regard to other people's play styles, it will get me booted from many teams and probably yelled at and /ignored or 1 Starred. When this happens, I am sure I won't have the support of the people on these forums to fight that battle in game. The only place where the Knock Back battle is won, is on these forums. However, these forums are not a very good reflection upon the actual game. The game is like prisons; prison have their own rules to follow that have been dictated by the prisoners, regardless of the rules the warden has in place. So being patted on the back for being all for Knock Back on these forums, gives me the feeling that taking the advice of said forum posters will only get me problems in the actual game when playing with players who don't give two s**ts about the people who post forums. I have not done it yet, but I just might get the urge to do so and conduct my experiment, lol. And keep in mind, not trying to argue with you, I am just being realistic with you.