Force Redux

Very helpful Elthenar, thank you. Nice to have some input on END management within Cold.

Ty for the help Dixa. Definite food for thought!

How would taking Clarion Core Epiphany change the build? Would the loss of END and Recharge gimp the build? Or was it mostly a "nice to have"? I can't use Pine's for a while.

Updated build. I'll use this when on my phone to review. Thanks for input folks! Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Medicine Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Battle Drones (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage/Endurance (3) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Endurance (3) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance (5) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage (5) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (7) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus Level 1: Infrigidate (A) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff (48) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage Level 2: Ice Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 4: Aid Other (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance (9) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (11) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge Level 6: Equip Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 10: Glacial Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (13) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 12: Protector Bots (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (13) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage (15) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage (15) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (17) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (17) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 14: Aid Self (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance (21) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (21) Miracle - Heal/Recharge Level 16: Snow Storm (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow (23) Pacing of the Turtle - Damage/Slow (23) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance (37) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow (46) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (50) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 18: Fly (A) Freebird - +Stealth Level 20: Arctic Fog (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (27) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (43) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge Level 22: Field Medic (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 24: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO (48) Recharge Reduction IO Level 26: Assault Bot (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (29) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (31) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (31) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 28: Benumb (A) Accuracy IO (33) Accuracy IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO (34) Endurance Reduction IO Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - 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Snowstorm and Sleet not enough? Seemed ok (albeit briefly) on Justin, I'm at 24 now on Everlasting. If you recommend an immobilize Dixa, which would you lean torward? I edited my post. Fantastic Dixa, thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.

True. Remove one and put in a Dam/End?

Snowstorm and Sleet not enough? Seemed ok (albeit briefly) on Justin, I'm at 24 now on Everlasting. If you recommend an immobilize Dixa, which would you lean torward?

I'm willing to spend a lot, as this is my main. Don't have it all over time, but so far I have most of the Pet Ios, KB prot IO, Stealth IO and Reactive Defense IO. Working on the others. Later I 'll work on sets. Appreciate the lookover.

46+ views....is the build that flawless, lol?

I just wanted to say I love the concept!

Yes, you need one, at least. I just deleted them and closed out, then came back in and added the forum manifest again. The savecoh manifest stopped working for me for some reason.

Awesome to hear Saarthalian :)

Some primaries and secondaries play nicer with each other than others. Overall I like the feel of the play, but I wish some of the PBAOE stuff would be modified to be more suitable for range use. I'd like Opportunity to be free from use of specific powers, like Domination, because I either forego the attack chain I want or lose the Opportunity. If Opportunity built up and then you had two powers that activate, Offensive or Defensive, it would be better. Overall my Dark/Ninjutsu is my 2nd favorite character. Some tweaks would be nice, but overall it's a fun archetype that really mirrors the comics well.

Resolved this by deleting all manifests, then verifying.

For the record, I tried to add the patch manifest at https://forums.homecomingservers.com/update/manifest.xml I've made no alterations to my antivirus, windows version, or other software today.

Anyone know what this exactly means? When I run Tequila, I can't connect. I was able to do so earlier today. I get a fetching manifest message, and then his error message: Manifest download error for http://patch.savecoh.com/manifest.xml The underlying connection was closed: The connection was closed unexpectedly. I've tried revalidating, to no effect. Help appreciated. Thanks!

Would you please post your build, Or a build that is optimized the best. Expense is not a problem. As influence is easy to come by. Here you go. "Best" is always subjective, but this build has worked very well for me in the past. I don't try to cap resistance, though I do attempt to boost it. With all the controls and debuffs, things 'whiff' a lot or else are locked down. I like procs on things, and I build for control on Necro/Dark because it plays to its strengths, but the power sets are neat, because there are always odd ways to get more damage in via procs. Grave Knights are slotted for damage, and Lich for lots of control. Just my way of doing it, but since you asked me to share, here it is: Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Presence Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (7) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (7) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (9) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (11) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (13) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (13) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (15) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing) (15) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (17) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Darkest Night (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (21) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance (21) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (23) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 6: Enchant Undead (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Hover (A) Freebird - +Stealth (9) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 10: Howling Twilight (A) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (23) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge (25) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge Level 12: Grave Knight (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (29) Endurance Reduction IO (29) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (31) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Mystic Flight (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (34) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 18: Soul Extraction (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (25) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (31) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (37) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (37) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (40) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (40) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit Level 22: Maneuvers (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Red Fortune - Defense (45) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 24: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure Level 26: Lich (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold (31) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold (48) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (48) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (50) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold Level 30: Provoke (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range (46) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 32: Dark Empowerment (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 35: Dark Embrace (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (36) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 38: Dark Servant (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (39) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (39) Recharge Reduction IO (39) Recharge Reduction IO Level 41: Arcane Bolt (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (42) Thunderstrike - 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Paladin! I had mentioned you in the old memories thread, as you used to run awesome SFs on Virtue back in the day. Nice to see you here :) Now join Everlasting server, please :-p

Wouldn't mind a review of my Bots/Cold. It's up on page 1 of this forum. I'm really liking it so far!

No takers? Please don't let the post go to page 2 :-)

Nicely stated Oldskool. I skipped Abyssal Gaze, did not have room for it and my attack chain seems solid enough with Dark Blast, Gloom and Antumbral Beam. But is that a mistake? Am I missing something I've overlooked in consideration?

Glad you found some of it useful! As always tweak to your personal tastes of course. :-)

That's pretty neat! Does global damage affect pets? I didn't think so, but I'd like to be wrong!

On a MM I'd go Support hybrid every time myself the way things are currently.

Sure thing Vinxnotha! I'll post in a little bit