Fan Mail Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just curious if anyone has leveled up an Ice Brute (either/and Ice Melee or Armor). Thoughts? I rolled an Ice/Ice Brute, got to level 8 then had to log so not enough of a sample to give thoughts. Specifically, looking for feedback on things like Chilling Embrace having negative effect on Fury generation. With the recent changes to Fury, maybe it's not that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I have a 50 war mace/ice brute. It's pretty strong but it isn't a rad/fire, so it's important to note that it has a different job to perform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkir Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 6:25 AM, tafilr said: Just curious if anyone has leveled up an Ice Brute (either/and Ice Melee or Armor). Thoughts? I rolled an Ice/Ice Brute, got to level 8 then had to log so not enough of a sample to give thoughts. Specifically, looking for feedback on things like Chilling Embrace having negative effect on Fury generation. With the recent changes to Fury, maybe it's not that big of a deal. /Ice on brute, do not dute (do it...rhyming is hard). Chilling embrace is a fantastic defensive power, but it does play a significant roll in generating less fury. It is far better utilized on a tanker. That being said, it is still perfectly viable (but what isn't in this game?). That being said, my knowledge of /ice is from before the patch and so perhaps with the new fury changes it's no big deal. Before though, it was noticeably worse than other sets when I tested it for damage due to lower fury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane31 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) Rad/Ice Brute | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1444;672;1344;HEX;| |78DA6594CB4F135114C6EFB45311E8930205CAA31428D0626D01176A942888118B1| |24DDC92868E305A68D3D64456CA5E0D0F8D2B139FE02371E102FD53D4FF41405D9B| |7A9CEFB39A4CD3E697FB9DF39D39F79EDE99BD3DE57E7F7E6D42698D93F96CB93C7| |FB674AB62B866B38BE6825329E59D2CE473912BD99C99AD9885953A91C256CAFCAC| |91378C642D827508B129E3BAB152369217168CF933A5E5424979E60A857C72DA5C5| |CAA982B8B3E6B9531B239A3545E328B0DD6FA6AD13072EEBFA1A2E405CE15CD85E4| |DC6A491E972D578CD26A9B343020BF7B31C54FD5A1120EA5D2BA72C4C961706658C| |29A95E3523F9D96A6FF20BF83870EC87DF0F01EB82DF5357AB5631A62E360C31839| |0ABAD3640ADC11AF13BD29E707D1BA74A5C9C9B950CFE1BA8CFEBC97407F060C484| |E1D72545D0B6ABD965AF5D4EA7B95A54525AF915A63025AAB681ED6F7D0EB0F632F| |4D1DE01BA9E5638EEF97B2FA6A626EF345E46C484E00BDBB0213D09A4FA1BFD6D35| |8B79EC4BAED04791C5C176F90DEE032B48E3C7913ECBC419A60F712E894FE5B78DE| |2D3CE76E9E7337CF39C2738EF09C23A39CA578433C8F10F71314AD9D5AFB1379465| |0579BD25F98FD851FEA565EEF23728BDC04FB36C875F0AD78BBD85F17FBEB1BC36C| |FBD95F3FFBEB677FB110E25BE2EDA1B727807A313FE90307BDA4877483EFC41BA53| |7FA0AFB1D7E49BE209F83F1A7E433F07E0C77E58F7780F388731E239CC708E731C2| |791CE13C3E4B89217A87EE08DA2476975C038F6E08A3C275F201F845BC0978B5C40| |EF691DE06BF4A2CC97B9BFC84FF6EFA23B90BE606954A5917B7AA529C67A75EBBEF| |F2958F8ADB94944D49DB94319B326E53A6F5DA7BA39AB145E7740645D12CA5DE5FB| |BEFD56F0DB5F706A3FBFF144DBB86DD78678483BADAB3651FFCAF3CC62C7E03E0E9| |E18A| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited February 1, 2020 by Hurricane31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxerJ Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Anyone have a SS/Ice brute build? I've heard whispers of the name Frostweaver in regards to dope ice brute buildling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I have a Dark Melee / Ice Armor brute and it's great fun. Can still generate plenty of fury by attacking things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy Brain Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 With the new fury changes, Ice's Slows are much more of a moot point. My Ice/Bio brute can fill up fury pretty damn quick with just Frost 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Until I realized that there was an incarnate power that grants DDR, I would have said hell no to ice armor on anything but a tank. But then, my testing ground for melee is soloing x8 ITFs. Once I added in that DDR, Ice and Shield both became more of a "yea, ok, I'll try it" thing. Without it? Fogetaboutit. Ice without DDR is a constant "I must hide in hibernate or die" business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Wait, Ice's in-built DDR needs more DDR? There's a meme in there, but I've not yet had enough coffee to generate it. You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomguide2005 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) Unfamiliar with Ice. How much DDR can it get? When you get mobs of +3 or greater Cimerorans pounding away you need a lot of DDR to avoid a defense failure. Edited July 21, 2020 by Doomguide2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Apparently not much. I thought there was a little in each shield, but it's just in one if I'm reading mids right. Must have been thinking of something else. Still kinda funny tho. You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomguide2005 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 12 hours ago, InvaderStych said: Apparently not much. I thought there was a little in each shield, but it's just in one if I'm reading mids right. Must have been thinking of something else. Still kinda funny tho. Hmmm, and I'll have to check but thought I saw at least 2 powers providing DDR. Yeah I'm seeing Frozen, Glacial and Wet, at least in the Wiki. The Wiki entry is a little odd listing all the Ice for Tankers and Stalkers (and making mention of Brutes having once had it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said: Hmmm, and I'll have to check but thought I saw at least 2 powers providing DDR. Yeah I'm seeing Frozen, Glacial and Wet, at least in the Wiki. The Wiki entry is a little odd listing all the Ice for Tankers and Stalkers (and making mention of Brutes having once had it). You might be right, and that might be where I got the idea. In Mids the power text descriptions mention DDR in Glacial and Wet, but only Frozen shows a % amount in the "Effects" window. If I had to guess I'd bet the text is right, the effects numbers are missing in Mids, and the wiki is probably still valid. The entry is likely odd since paragonwiki isn't being updated. There's an HC specific version here: https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Main_Page Apologies in advance if that's the link you were using. You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiramon Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 +13.84% Frozen Armor +13.84% Glacial Armor +13.84% Wet Ice =41.52% DDR Checked on test 😜 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomguide2005 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, kiramon said: +13.84% Frozen Armor +13.84% Glacial Armor +13.84% Wet Ice =41.52% DDR Checked on test 😜 Thanks kiramon. Is that enhanced or base value, i.e. By enhancing the defenses in SR it also boosts SR's DDR. And while 40ish DDR is not bad +3/+4 Cims are going to whittle your defense down fairly quickly. I wouldn't necessarily call it "cascade" but ... . And yes I was looking at the older wiki ... figured it was likely still accurate with respect to powers providing DDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiramon Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said: Thanks kiramon. Is that enhanced or base value, i.e. By enhancing the defenses in SR it also boosts SR's DDR. And while 40ish DDR is not bad +3/+4 Cims are going to whittle your defense down fairly quickly. I wouldn't necessarily call it "cascade" but ... . And yes I was looking at the older wiki ... figured it was likely still accurate with respect to powers providing DDR. No, the DDR ignores buffs/enhancements - - it's also resist not defense (so +def wouldnt affect it even if it could). Anyways, Your Smashing/Lethal (and somewhat Energy/Negative) defenses are high enough that with the saturation from Energy Absorption you'll probably not be too bad off. It's really the fact that ice has crap against the other defenses that hurts it (and zero resists). Going up against Arachnos was kill or be killed (quickly) lol This +4/8 in Cim with a random build (literally full sets just to make my life easier - note: not a real build with just 55% in s/l )... Also note: Ice doesn't just rely on defenses though. Energy Absorption is like 70% end drain... my random test character happened to be Electric/Ice, so you can see... well, the entire mob was basically at zero end the whole time... and slowed... so even then they barely hurt it... RANDOM SIDE NOTE: Brute is still laughably better than other ATs where you can just run into +4/x8 with zero worries and clear it faster than some full groups can... just sayin - even your bottom of the barrel brute is still above most other ATs lol Edited July 22, 2020 by kiramon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoseph Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Anyone have an ice/ice brute build, been working on leveling one? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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