BroFoSho Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Title pretty much sums it up. You currently cannot roll any Epic ATs in Praetoria. What if I want to be a gnarly evil alien from another dimension? What if I want to be part of a villain group that doesn't even exist in this dimension? (Or does it? My lore is sloppy) Make it happen cap'n! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Cure Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Would make sense for VEATS and least..like Lord Recluse slipping some destinied ones into Preatoria on the sneaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoulVileTerror Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 From a gameplay standpoint, I'm not against this. I maintain that player-choice is a good thing. From a technical standpoint, there might be a minor issue with the specialized Contacts for the Epic Archetypes that could theoretically have far-reaching issues in the code, but those could likely be overcome. From a lore standpoint . . . it's dicey. But like the technical issue(s), I think some creative thinking could help solve that too. And really, it wouldn't be the end of the world if another little bit of lore became wonky. Certainly isn't the first time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 8:43 PM, Razor Cure said: Would make sense for VEATS and least..like Lord Recluse slipping some destinied ones into Preatoria on the sneaky. Why not? There are Blood Widows which are already part of the Crusader Story Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 8:43 PM, Razor Cure said: Would make sense for VEATS and least..like Lord Recluse slipping some destinied ones into Preatoria on the sneaky. But the whole point of the VEAT storyline is that they're not destined ones. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Vanden said: But the whole point of the VEAT storyline is that they're not destined ones. True. But that doesn't mean they couldn't be sent on a mission like those Blood Widows were. Kheldians are even easier. They go from being an entire wave of strange visitors in the open .. to being rare ones that are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Kheldian lore's a lot more involved than that. Not to mention that starting in Praetoria, you'd completely miss the 1-50 Kheld-specific story arcs. If there are Praetorian EATs, let them be *praetorian* EATs. Not awkward shoehorning of things that don't make sense. 2 Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Lorewise, I'd want any VEAT's or HEAT's to start with new contacts, maybe for Heroes Dark Watcher could give you a pep talk about being an Undercover Longbow agent, or Arbiter Sands could instruct you that you are an Undercover Arachnos agent, and impress upon you the urgency of getting the information he wants, and "Glory to Lord Recluse, et cetera, et cetera..." THEN have you go and make your first moral choice for Resistance or Loyalist. 1 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 18 hours ago, Vanden said: But the whole point of the VEAT storyline is that they're not destined ones. Well. Not until they beat up Destiny and take it's lunch money and write themselves in. I mean, even if they weren't on the original Destined One list, if they fulfil the eventual criteria, then clearly they were Destined all along, and Destiny just had them take the scenic route to get there. Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomguide2005 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, Greycat said: Kheldian lore's a lot more involved than that. Not to mention that starting in Praetoria, you'd completely miss the 1-50 Kheld-specific story arcs. If there are Praetorian EATs, let them be *praetorian* EATs. Not awkward shoehorning of things that don't make sense. I'm with Greycat. If it's to be an EAT then it should be a Praetorian story line based one. Just not sure how I feel about "PEATs" 😜. I'm not anywhere currently familiar enough with the story line these days to know just how much work that would involve ... beyond the obvious creation of one, or likely more, new archetypes. Certainly it is far more work than coming up with reasons why HEATs and VEATs might be "visiting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said: I'm with Greycat. If it's to be an EAT then it should be a Praetorian story line based one. Just not sure how I feel about "PEATs" 😜. I'm not anywhere currently familiar enough with the story line these days to know just how much work that would involve ... beyond the obvious creation of one, or likely more, new archetypes. Certainly it is far more work than coming up with reasons why HEATs and VEATs might be "visiting". PPD / Resistance characters would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeraphia Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I love this suggestion, and I firmly welcome the gold-side creativity to the character bios I'm sure would arise! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Most Eats/Veats skip their "At" specific arcs already ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Haijinx said: Most Eats/Veats skip their "At" specific arcs already ... VEATs, maybe, they suck - I only play up to the level 10 to get a costume slot. I like and pretty much always play the Kheld arcs, though. Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said: I'm with Greycat. If it's to be an EAT then it should be a Praetorian story line based one. Just not sure how I feel about "PEATs" 😜. Obviously the PEATs would involve hybrids with the Devouring Earth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomguide2005 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, tidge said: Obviously the PEATs would involve hybrids with the Devouring Earth. Sorry we really shouldn't get bogged down over a name ... but I'd be all over a innate +100% to hit bonus. 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Doomguide2005 said: Sorry we really shouldn't get bogged down over a name . ... I see what you did there. 🙂 1 Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarySai Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Arachnos soldiers make Cole crabby, they're the bane of his existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) On 9/8/2020 at 8:51 AM, ScarySai said: Arachnos soldiers make Cole crabby, they're the bane of his existence. I think Cole should consider it since he might be fortunate and meet a nice female VEAT to keep him company. After all, He is a Widower. Edited September 9, 2020 by Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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