Concept toon, help me decide?

Xandyr · August 13, 2021

So, IRL I wanted to be a cop. Since I couldn't be one , I figured the next best thing would to play a cop on our beloved game!

Obviously I'm gonna go with WM do I can choose the Police Baton as my weapon. I'm trying to decide a few things, and was hoping to get some input.

1) Would this toon be better off as a Tank, a Brute, or a Scrapper?

2) Willpower, Shield, and (to an extent) Invuln would work . I can't decide on which would "fit" better, and make the toon more enjoyable.

With Shield, I can choose the Swat Riot shield, so that'd be cool. Obviously ,regardless of AT, I could cap my defenses. With Shield though, resists typically suck tho,right?

With WP, I can ( or almost) cap most typed defenses, and have have absurb regen (on a tank...dont know how it performs on a Brute or Scrap).

And with Invuln I can cap typed defenses to most, have good resists (not capped except for S/L?) , and have a heal (again, on a tank. Dont know how it performs on a brute or scrap).

So, help me decide Gurus. What AT and Powerset would perform "best" and why?

Appreciate it!

X

Werner · August 13, 2021

I'd personally do a Shield/Mace Tanker. While the resists are admittedly not as high as on a resist set, they're not bad on a Shield Tanker, plus soft capped defense and high DDR and high hit points, plus the damage boost and Shield Charge so that it's less painful doing Tanker damage. Here are my resists with one Tanker ATO on my Shield/MA. The psionic hole could easily be plugged better. It was my dump stat. Still not too bad most of the time since soft capped defense. If not Tanker, I'd probably go Scrapper and try to max out the War Mace damage without making myself too much of a glass cannon.

Edited August 13, 2021 by Werner

Psyonico · August 13, 2021

Shield can get decent resistance, it's a mixed defensive set, granting both Defense and Resist. As Werner said, it also has good damage. You can probably do better in the resist area (other than to Psi) than a Willpower can actually.

If you do decide to go WP/Mace, here's the build that I use. This guy was my first 50 tank on live and still a strong contender.

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Shovel Man: Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: War Mace
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(34)
Level 1: Bash -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40)
Level 2: Pulverize -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 4: High Pain Tolerance -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ResDam-I(5), Prv-Heal(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17)
Level 6: Indomitable Will -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A)
Level 8: Rise to the Challenge -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(9), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(9), Pnc-Heal(25), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(34)
Level 10: Jawbreaker -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(42), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 12: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13)
Level 14: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(48), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(50), MckBrt-Rchg(50)
Level 16: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 18: Heightened Senses -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), ShlWal-Def(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(23), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(34)
Level 20: Whirling Mace -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Erd-%Dam(21), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(23), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(42), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 22: Fast Healing -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Ags-ResDam(27), Ags-Psi/Status(37)
Level 28: Clobber -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(29), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Weave -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Rct-Def(31), Rct-ResDam%(31), Rct-Def/Rchg(46), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 32: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 35: Shatter -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Erd-%Dam(36), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(36), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(37), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Crowd Control -- GntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), GntFis-Dmg/Rchg(39), GntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), GntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), GntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), GntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(40)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(45), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RedFrt-Def(45), RedFrt-EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 44: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Strength of Will -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 49: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), RgnTss-Regen+(13)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 50: Vigor Core Paragon
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Paralytic Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Carnival Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 16: Double Jump
------------

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build |
		|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
		|MxDz;1586;732;1464;HEX;|
		|78DA8593CB52134114867B9889312131C4101224DC4120404804D4F2BA10B050B0A|
		|2585A65155203B664649CA42691CB4645DFC08D6FE103B876EF03B8F58272F556EA|
		|2A1EE6FC2429B370AAE03BFDA74F9FBF4F774FAF8EF95E5D5EBF2814DF2553CFE7E|
		|76EEAD692B4DDD7F4C2235B37057DDE994C76599A6DD3BAE5A6619467CC8DC9FBD2|
		|CACBC46DC33473D9156987F1C3B43425C93A45FA820C4E5A19694BAB9038087CE96|
		|CD64C4C493D67588B7E6730612C660A340A1CFC744FDAF98C910B3AE3496BD9C81B|
		|F3866914D642E3396321316E497B718DD6CF17A4BD16255743F4F7C143FF947DCB4|
		|54DFC54854869A2E637F88359F78BD9FE8739EA15F828274DE8D0C4A1EBCC233798|
		|6D33CC9E779C73D28B32A2A82AFFC9794F9E54F6A4AA110A9A35A10D08671D6D039|
		|E36999F68AE8BE70A975771B40DD2DC8AE2F873B7F3BCC331B095196DC39E5A98A7|
		|C89F87FDB93CF0E7853F2FFC45E1AFEF0EB14713F159E6674AAC650F4AEDCB1A673|
		|DDF0BE6695AD78F75FD19D6860CF001B8C44C99E0436684AE4E807345A0897D7EA1|
		|5A419C577082B5A393E01566C355EC2DCCFD384B1E42F010DAAA71FA59BF0DEE301|
		|B96B9BF7D2BCCF82AF323D50BA3BFE16DDC0BF21581AF48913EA192D288136B4C72|
		|D563C3E008B36B947986DC34C14D133A1D43A763FFDC843E74387E97A9519D66AEE|
		|36ADE65372DDFC01DF03B73F02BB887AE506E2B76D28ACE9C232F1DF0D281CE74A2|
		|339DE84C273AD385CE74A133E729B71BB9DD8F35473BFE047C0AAE337B9E81CF994|
		|1F2D28B7DF4E2D60ED4827EF0087330C04CC1738872FBB18FFE76F6B245A794C089|
		|244EA88EEF4DD292D092FD385DADF4DA8B31ADF48AF787748A53554A5A2BBD5AA13|
		|8CAF6FE3B4675659057DDA9D47A59DB2D6B8A728B9DFB2EF05BDEAB9C8FF7E2A9A3|
		|37CF958AC92A1FF12A2555A58C5429C3554A98AE6D0AFB7F4D079F42C581FAB2FE3|
		|6548E45B81CA7BDE5F9B315B15E11CF57C46FE2A5D75BFC0B455302E7|
		|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Omega Force · August 13, 2021

Invulnerability is toughest, Shield is right behind with more damage. Willpower is the friendliest to your blue bar (which makes it easier to level) and has no animation times to force redraw. Shield is better on scrappers than brutes, because it adds damage and has less resistance for a brute to leverage.

Concept wise, I would go tanker, so you can control the field like you were directing traffic.

Shield/WM scrapper.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Ags-ResDam(9), Ags-Psi/Status(9), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(11), ImpArm-ResPsi(11)
Level 2: Jawbreaker -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Dam%(17)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def(23), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25)
Level 6: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 8: Clobber -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(27), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(27), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), TchofDth-Dam%(31)
Level 10: True Grit -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Prv-Heal(31), Prv-Absorb%(31), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(33), TtnCtn-ResDam(33), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Whirling Mace -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(36)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-ResDam%(36)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A)
Level 26: Shatter -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(39)
Level 28: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(42), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(43), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(43)
Level 38: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-Max HP%(46), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46)
Level 41: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(46), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LucoftheG-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 44: Zapp -- Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: One with the Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(50)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Stamina -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(19), PrfShf-End%(21)
Level 49: Quick Form
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany
Level 14: Speed Phase
------------

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1409;659;1318;HEX;|
|78DA4D93CB4F135114C6EFD0C14AE9BB85B6401FBCE451195A1F6B17A2260209491|
|34D7CE1D85EE848034D8B11DDB9F06F70E36BEBC68D7F823B9FFF840B3720898ABA|
|713CEDF7B57692C9EFDE6FEEB9DF3967EE5DDD5BF2BFBEF4E89C3282E76B76B3B95|
|E2A37EC7A5D37BCA5B2A3B7CB5AB51EAFBC89CE97F5555DD3DABA6ACBC82EEB6C57|
|5FD21B7ABBA9AD52D5D1B54A67AA7C6B3B3B35AB54D7BAE26F0F57B45D77B637439|
|D4945379A55A71E68CF2F3A9BD55DF99AB85077CA5669D7AE6DB52CEF8957735737|
|1E242595A9563AC38A8FDBAF36044553F56D9255D074C8BBE0B12DD017101A8C2D1|
|8F8761A3C7E863C0BFA86C839E18CA992E26B30D6A0AF9FBE7EFA06E91BA46F98BE|
|83E2EB61AC278C7DE311703846C6C1247D93CB9E3653E2DB8F7A55FFABBEB636229|
|A97FB79AFA9767E23D7C91BE0D84DF216985907FD92CB0063072EA3B6CC577865F6|
|C15C1E39E42C32214C9B2A20B18388558379D436296724C0FC02A3880F8A106A37C|
|B55A171AC1B939C23FC6F91775837FE9EFC407E04273F919FC190EC1783AF113BE0|
|B7EFE0B0F80F31A721F62E225A825AC2072D2DFE29D69DBA6DB6B5299BBC4396C11|
|315528361F11FE57EA3F430C423CDBAD3AE3C2A230E593A649F728767E0CC73F205|
|F9129C7B8C3F1A118709C64EFC8536E792F7D1C1F93DF221C9588F6432CDD8E91FE|
|8CAC99FE411F91B5CF843FE024D899D65EC2C4FE6024FE66294E4095DE4092DB203|
|5F648B3C3A60E42DE4522C8031D9D762C72C9E80A8D458E0FAC229F81779BBB266F|
|766BA6366F786B7A6D2D9955E65000E6B260344337270D8F775EFA83216A01DF46A|
|B3D0BEFDD7FA8C1C32098F83D12BA8EEB077CD21FE56F4088C3F410ECBF3DD8ADC9|
|598481CA7E23266356F7AF4B7F3DDBBE2FE03DBC8C328|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Shield/Dark tank, so you can see what kind of resistance they can get for a defense set.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), UnbGrd-Max HP%(7)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mk'Bit-Dam%(11)
Level 2: Smite -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Dam%(17)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(23), Ksm-ToHit+(25)
Level 6: Shadow Maul -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(29)
Level 8: True Grit -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(31), Heal-I(31), Heal-I(31), ImpArm-ResPsi(33), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A), PrfZng-Taunt/Rng(33)
Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Siphon Life -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal(36), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 18: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Touch of Fear -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Mlt-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(37)
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-ResDam%(39)
Level 24: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(40)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(42), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(42), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(42), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Ags-Psi/Status(45), ImpArm-ResPsi(45)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(46), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(48)
Level 41: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: One with the Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(50)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Stamina -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(19), PrfShf-End%(21)
Level 14: Afterburner
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany
------------

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1398;663;1326;HEX;|
|78DA55935D5352511486F786438680825F686A8AA282226A335D77116A21CC3853D|
|32DC3E8114E3048E09476D74C9F37DD76D3E71FE8A2FE4B59FD812E4A9D3E4833A3|
|05EF2BE19981679FB5F6DAFBDDEF593BB91973BF5EBC734169F7C57CBA5C4E5D4D1|
|77266C9914C67AC15557B5AE43788682A66AE9985B219BD92B5CCFCEAF1AB9FD9A4|
|9937CD682C5DCA61A85CCBEBEBF9E842DECA64373C18D7865621D35E7F4B98E955B|
|354CE5A45F7F17B5192BEF9A2B5125DDE2A99A964BABC6196B67A4543507E318FFC|
|E99AAAAA43C5ED4ACD19CAB644FE008D9FE43E78EA00AC38151FA95D53C865C0D35|
|9D2025BAF9339F09793DB4AAD66AD9BB56ED6B6B1B68DB55ED6CE8B663B341BF61D|
|68E9DA057BBE91DDBACEDEA39AD986DA97FD1CDCCFF1D440EE1978E639F9021C784|
|9BE021764BF167AD4128186B3C70C9EE47058264E08FDBABEEFA2D43A51AB9C5398|
|73205A5CD0A25D451BEA4AA04B9AC3839CF2F4E32CBF657E3BB5B7D3AB00BD0AD0A|
|B003D1AFD8C9AD12FE02559CCA7757D3D5F00730E65BD4EAC67741E62DFD12A18BC|
|8139C10DF20DE297659D6E9C4377D3F3F1EF605C727E9ED14FDF9724D647CD7D77E|
|1E3F83DF23E38F1807C483E02FF88BEFE7A77548DFE9BD011BE456E925BE0E46D50|
|8B6F83F46DB02A8FB24B64885F6D889D3CC94E9EAC80117674E43C5447F8F58E44C|
|10814A891C770E0AFC4C6B8DED83BD44DBF27B7C90FE0CC47F2136F8E6809A1D616|
|A27B33ECD8393AE69339537478CAAB4FE47A2417A5C351C612E2F02CBB68F61CD7A|
|2FEB0D1B8D5D501A3714B6BAFE24CA239E2C4E9968DC67D547A189E7E6D951877D5|
|D388ED34C74288EDFE8FD9741C0ABC0128EAB806B57BCD73F6F09D3B2A60D713685|
|03D8DDEAF26A441E7388E74C998A7D96E8ABF6D1AFF039550D11D|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Elec/WM tanker for comparison. Maybe he was raised in the wild by Tasers or whatever.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Electric Armor
Secondary Power Set: War Mace
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(5), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(5), UnbGrd-Max HP%(7)
Level 1: Bash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(7), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(9), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), TchofDth-Dam%(11)
Level 2: Lightning Field -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(17)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(23), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mk'Bit-Dam%(25)
Level 6: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(29), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 8: Static Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(31), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 10: Grounded -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 12: Energize -- Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(33), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34)
Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A), PrfZng-Taunt/Rng(34)
Level 18: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 20: Whirling Mace -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(37)
Level 22: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Power Sink -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(37)
Level 28: Clobber -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(40)
Level 30: Tough -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A)
Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LucoftheG-Def(40), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(42), Ksm-ToHit+(42)
Level 35: Shatter -- Mlt-Acc/Dmg(A), Mlt-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(43), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(45)
Level 38: Crowd Control -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(48)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Rct-ResDam%(50), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(50), Rct-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- RctRtc-Pcptn(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(19), PrfShf-End%(21)
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Storm Elemental Core Superior Ally
Level 14: Afterburner
------------

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1386;668;1336;HEX;|
|78DA4D93C94F535114C6EF6B5F4568B14029731945A8400113E31C63A49A2824981|
|84D9C9AA65ECA935AEA6B17B23471DC39C68D285B5DB8F15F7076EFB874E70038C3|
|823C4FFB7DD6BEA4FDDD77CEFDEEF9CE7DF78E9D1DF13DDC7B6EA7327CBB53F16C3|
|676309E9ED2B6672C9EB4122AFF94C92F84686C444FE8745647A2299DC8D95622B6|
|CB3E3D6D07991DD329AD2387E3328A27B4F28E4F4FA7227B525672325789717E68A|
|593FEC2DBA88E9FD47676D2CAF8FEBD6724198866AC44249AD676724616CAE6B43D|
|D3201EBAE4F7D82F7F46DE95E3513FDD4A0D9BCAF58B5C02CD3FE46F70D532B8B14|
|2F111ED11418FE48E82AB8F91C7C18A13640C7C22750DD6355E633DDF1BF22DB8E6|
|1DF91EACFA006E92BA6ED6754FA842AC3609D64D9216D8708A9C029F4A5D0FEA9A1|
|EF6DBC47E9BD86F0BFB6D61BFCF4453464D1935ADD4B452D34A4D3B35CF45530E8D|
|51BE81B97A09844CF542725EF877793F31F719ECF8027AE59054628EAA6C466CB3F|
|4ED47CCF0675C986F835B2457CDF9D5F711DB26B100F72970DEC4FC0B60D745F212|
|79195C7B057C298582F0AF8203D83B9778AA678D7A471EF54A6635168E8F63342E7|
|1856570AB546F66F5E6ABCC5D03D75D276F9037C19E5BA05B2A85582914360A27C6|
|94581B4F4C5B9581F901B2160C07C9FDD8B1F08A2AECF876F1D2492F9D1974B3FE0|
|C992357B06BFD0EF9115E7688B69BDAEE3B88F5CF820377C97BE41C38486DB578EE|
|A5E7DE79781A5C20BF83C33FC845F21B5827DA3E7E813EF63527A908F725322B3E0|
|3A67A20C76488F3866EC37BD82CDE6AA7C52CDED2FCAB7CB5D1D2483914E3260512|
|33DAB1235F2B8A7754193C03F3A5B15EC416FEC75C4607EFEA2138AED987AFB7583|
|A87EBD790B5743D2A8775181E9C4725E3034119B31B5557BC17CE5FB4E3D3F4|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Outrider_01 · August 13, 2021

7 minutes ago, Omega Force said:

Elec/WM tanker for comparison. Maybe he was raised in the wild by Tasers or whatever.

.02 influence as I made an WM/Elec brute who tanks better than DPS (kind of a pyrrhic victory build, does what it supposed to do but didn't reach expectations): you are over slotted in recovery with the stuff in stamina and health, you got an endurance drain and reduction cost. You could also lose a little bit of resist like 10% and raise the smashing/lethal defense to soft cap; you can avoid 3/4 of the attacks comming at you as a lot of split damage is C/L, F/S, or E/S ect. Than pop Energize to recover and regen it back, your only weakness is -regen at that point. Energy blast is laughable, you either avoid it or laugh as it does 10 points of damage.

siran · August 13, 2021

Ahem: Stone is the toughest. It is far far tougher than invulnerability. It is the gold standard for toughness. And with the recent changes to travel powers now has no significant movement penalties (if you have combat teleport). The latest patch could have been renamed 'lots of love for stone tankers'. . All that said invulnerability is tough enough for anything other than 'all psi +4/8 with some nasty carnie style debuffs' in it (my stoner has capped defence and is one orange away from capped resist against them).

I've tried being the cop a couple of times. Once as a dominator, once as a scrapper. The scrapper was better. I took shield defence (the SWAT shield). MA is great (very cops show) but I think that you are right: war mace with the baton would be better. I wouldn't be a tanker though. Tankers for me take being resiliant to supernatural levels, and no mortal cop is that tough. That's just a personal view of course

I'd play a scrapper with shield (swat shield) and war mace (baton).... and now I'm tempted to remake my PC character... I didn't know about the baton costume option

Omega Force · August 13, 2021

14 minutes ago, siran said:

Ahem: Stone is the toughest.

Good catch, thanks! Let me amend my earlier post, "Invulnerability is the toughest of the three powersets the OC is deciding between."

PLVRIZR · August 13, 2021

I'll second Shield/War Mace, just because you can take the SWAT shield and a police baton for the Mace. I played with a fully "kitted" out Shield/WM, with a complete police getup and he was a total beast in toughness and damage and looked the part, as well!

Warboss · August 13, 2021

I'd say it would depend on the final concept you have. WP seems the most obvious for a "really tough human", Invuln (to me) would be some kind of enhancement, and Shield would put you in riot control/SWAT category (as PLV already mentioned). Of the three you mentioned, all three will be solid performers and there are some great builds both offered in this thread as well as on the rest of the Tanker forums. That said, I would like to add that Shield Charge is pretty freakin' awesome and hard to resist playing a Tanker. Just my 2 infs worth, but all of them would be a fun run to 50 and beyond.

BrandX · August 13, 2021

EH, WP doesn't have to be a really tough human. 😛 Can still be superhuman.

To OP, I'd go...INVUNERABILITY! Officer Dave Speed made good use of Invulnerability as a cop, so can you!

Bill Z Bubba · August 13, 2021

As I have one I dig, I'm also completely in the shield/mace tank group.

PLVRIZR · August 13, 2021

4 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

As I have one I dig, I'm also completely in the shield/mace tank group.

Me too...named "Mace to the Face" 😆

Bastille Boy · August 13, 2021

My experience on tankers is that all three of these armor sets are good, but that Invulnerability and Shield do better than Willpower at soloing the most difficult missions. The lack of defense debuff resistance in Willpower is a limitation.

If you want Mace + Shield, I'd go with tanker or scrapper, since brutes don't benefit as much as the other two ATs from the +dam in Shield.

Xandyr · August 13, 2021

19 hours ago, Werner said:

I'd personally do a Shield/Mace Tanker. While the resists are admittedly not as high as on a resist set, they're not bad on a Shield Tanker, plus soft capped defense and high DDR and high hit points, plus the damage boost and Shield Charge so that it's less painful doing Tanker damage. Here are my resists with one Tanker ATO on my Shield/MA. The psionic hole could easily be plugged better. It was my dump stat. Still not too bad most of the time since soft capped defense. If not Tanker, I'd probably go Scrapper and try to max out the War Mace damage without making myself too much of a glass cannon.

I've been tinkering with Mids building a Shield/WM tank, and your resists are higher than what I've come up with. Care to message me your build?

Here's mine (with Cardiac Core).

Oh, I just noticed that for some reason, the +6.7% Resistance from SMotT isn't showing up for some reason...so add 6.7 to all my resists.

Bill Z Bubba · August 13, 2021

1 hour ago, PLVRIZR said:

Me too...named "Mace to the Face" 😆

Mine's Battle Barrier.

nihonsean · August 13, 2021

20 hours ago, Werner said:

The psionic hole could easily be plugged better. It was my dump stat. Still not too bad most of the time since soft capped defense.

Yup since untyped Psionic damage is pretty rare soft capped ranged/AOE defense should cover most of the 'normal' psi attacks

nihonsean · August 13, 2021

How is Super Reflexes on Tank? Comparable to Shield?

Bill Z Bubba · August 13, 2021

4 minutes ago, nihonsean said:

How is Super Reflexes on Tank? Comparable to Shield?

SR's DDR is fully baked in and caps. SHield's DDR gets into the 80% range but only if you doublestack Active Defense.

Shield gets more damres across the board.

Both can softcap to all positions although it's easier with SR.

I'd argue that the +dam with shield is superior to the +recharge with SR.

nihonsean · August 13, 2021

And Shield has a useful tier 9

Werner · August 14, 2021

3 hours ago, Xandyr said:

I've been tinkering with Mids building a Shield/WM tank, and your resists are higher than what I've come up with. Care to message me your build?

Hopefully no one minds if I dump it here. I suppose the Shield slotting might be translatable to War Mace, though nothing ever translates exactly, I've found.

Spoiler

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Thurin: Level 50 Technology Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Martial Arts
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Max HP%(5), GldArm-3defTpProc(7)
Level 1: Thunder Kick -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(11)
Level 2: Storm Kick -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(17)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(27), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(27), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29), Rct-ResDam%(31)
Level 6: True Grit -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(31), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(33), Prv-Heal(33), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), WntGif-ResSlow(34)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 12: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(36)
Level 16: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-ResDam(36)
Level 18: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 20: Dragon's Tail -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Rchg(42), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Arm-Dam%(42)
Level 28: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43)
Level 30: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 32: Focus Chi -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), AdjTrg-Rchg(34), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(40), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 35: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Apc-Dam%(46), GldJvl-Dam%(46)
Level 38: Crippling Axe Kick -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(48), Hct-Dam%(48), AchHee-ResDeb%(50)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: One with the Shield -- ImpSki-Status(A)
Level 49: Darkest Night -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19), Prv-Heal(19), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(21), Prv-Absorb%(21)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(23), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(23), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(25), PwrTrns-+Heal(25)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Mighty Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany
------------

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build |
		|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
		|MxDz;1578;752;1504;HEX;|
		|78DA6593494F535114C7EF6B1F604B2B43690B42C1D262A12D8FD661E114440B95A|
		|10909C49D692A5CE98B4DDBBC96449626E2B05370DA28246E74E377F04B28EAC2AD|
		|9AA026CEAB7AFACE1FDAA42FD0DFBDE7DC33DE7B52D7138E57C91BE342715CC8654|
		|AA5F462267F4D1AF645B994CD1772859535415FF36276D5D0F32DB4F4F18174425E|
		|95F992D416B2BACC2DEF6D7BA04DC99C945A2A6394F54C2E3D61944BC2315F28E4B|
		|4399929EAF915A7B999D257B265DAB5EDA996A551CAEA45BBB95F284AB9EC9D2CEA|
		|4BDA7963B52CD30B85D55C3A952995A5B1D64DA98CD17FC2493F4A35C74A9370D32|
		|26E13962EF0A7D5A4FA0BFC57A52A9A8F32CF79043EB2BDA9B26E9D79E016789B69|
		|BF03DE654E90AD82B8CA1BF6E7780BEE300FBE03DF33DB3F302729672B6CAD539CD|
		|BA11930C9EC9B065153FF0FB69D22DB26D836A1BE7ED4D7FF8779F833F809F49281|
		|CF263C747F2D6CABB4C0AFBF97FD26C9AF0D3A5B44B00EBC48BA56B3D88A68F5B34|
		|C215F4EEE9DE2DCE49E041E32ADA46B635F96B6BF9C43003906F6EE84CE74F0196B|
		|076A0FA2F6207A12440F92D46B17C7525D5B1CE3C853F019B8CD0CAD5B4C4E53726|
		|EF62FDCA87586645EC8BC6EEEC92CC97AE0BBE724DB864E59CCF323A7C133E059D6|
		|7750EEBDC8BD17B987917318398767B9AF2E3AEB434CDF89EA28093149F50C704CE|
		|BC04BF6E97FCE31425BCCF8367389DC0CE28D0E465916D5D8263A06C6583E1AE7FD|
		|68948C42F45628CE106C871E707F46EF33C736C07B60846DE3AF892E550C52DEC37|
		|80FC3780771B0937411D414C17B98A33E6A1C4B68D5827DAAF8E8102206590CE7FA|
		|D4FD99A33FFAC488BA3FC195708336D6208937488E35488E3748E6EA2536AE755E4|
		|5609229E6295B3B4D264B2ABBF6FD09174A409816DFEC75533FA3985D6EF7F34D77|
		|5E529898BA2E4C61D72EEBBFD6FB1B667FDF6B325579CC597936F8363D8F98DD9BE|
		|06FBEA979BB598399E3E5BA75A66E7DA56E9D1D2133F4F74BB0B6DE71D5D62FE889|
		|C5717EBC4EFEC45593FF07381EFCB5|
		|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Xandyr · August 14, 2021

Yeah you're right @Werner...nothing ever translates exactly haha. I studied your build for a while, and then came up with this.

Anyone care to comment? Appreciate it!

X

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1479&c=695&a=1390&f=HEX&dc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

Xandyr · August 14, 2021

Just now, Xandyr said:

Yeah you're right @Werner...nothing ever translates exactly haha. I studied your build for a while, and then came up with this.

Anyone care to comment? Appreciate it!

X

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1479&c=695&a=1390&f=HEX&dc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

And what am I doing wrong that when I try to export a build, that link posts, instead of how Werner's showed up?

Werner · August 14, 2021

1 hour ago, Xandyr said:

I studied your build for a while, and then came up with this.

Anyone care to comment? Appreciate it!

Rebirth vs. Ageless: On the surface, Shield's big survivability weakness is lack of healing and regeneration, so Rebirth is the obvious choice here, and was what I was first testing on beta in my survivability tests for my build. But what I found was that in content nasty enough to kill me, the typical reason I'd be taking more damage than my native regeneration could keep up with was that I'd been debuffed into the ground, and in such a case, usually Rebirth was only delaying the inevitable. By contrast, Ageless stopped the debuffs, and the 30 second duration of the highest debuff resistance usually got me through the trouble. It was counterintuitive and surprised me, but I went where my testing showed me I should go. The extra endurance and recharge come in handy much more often than the debuff resistance in more normal content, but I was mostly after the debuff resistance when I added it to the build.

Energy Mastery vs. Soul Mastery: Gloom is great for DPS, but doesn't fit character concept, and better regeneration and endurance management are good things. And they reduce the argument for Ageless over Rebirth.

DPS: Clobber. Clobber as often as possible. The best chain is probably Clobber -> Shatter -> Jawbreaker. The problem there is recharge. If you want to run that chain, Clobber must recharge in 4.488 seconds, Shatter in 3.432 seconds, and Jawbreaker in 3.96 seconds. You can drop something for Hasten, but you'd still have to alter some other slotting to get there. Another option would be to reduce the recharge requirements by taking and slotting up Pulverize as well, but that burns another precious power pick and slots too. Hasten is probably more generally useful. Otherwise I guess you're tossing a Crowd Control in there, a slow, low DPS attack. In any case, it doesn't looks like you're set up to take advantage of War Mace's high potential DPS. Or AoE to some extent, since the faster your AoEs recharge, the more AoE damage you do, even if there's no AoE chain to be had.

Defense: I like being soft capped to incarnate content, not just regular content. That's of course a lot harder to do with War Mace than Martial Arts (+10% defense from Storm Kick), so would involve big compromises that probably aren't worth it. But I'd really want my melee defense at least in the 50s. Not sure where I'd grab that from. One fairly easy way to raise defense on your build is to take Hover, but that's surely against concept. I have a trash Shield/Mace build that has 67% melee defense without Hover. But I didn't realize at the time that Active Defense stacks, and there are big compromises on resistance, so I'm definitely not recommending this build. It still might have some ideas in it for raising your melee defense.

Spoiler

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: War Mace
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(3), UnbGrd-ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), UnbGrd-Max HP%(7)
Level 1: Bash -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(7), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Rct-Def/Rchg(9), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Rct-ResDam%(11)
Level 4: Pulverize -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(19), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Active Defense -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: True Grit -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), UnbGrd-ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27)
Level 14: Boxing -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A)
Level 16: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(29)
Level 18: Weave -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(29), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def(31), RedFrt-EndRdx(33)
Level 20: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Arm-Dam%(34)
Level 28: Clobber -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Hct-Acc/Rchg(36), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Hct-Dam%(37), TchofDth-Dam%(37)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 32: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(39), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(40), GssSynFr--Build%(40)
Level 35: Shatter -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(42), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(43)
Level 38: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apc-Acc/Rchg(43), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Apc-Dam%(45), CldSns-%Dam(45)
Level 41: Crowd Control -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(46), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(46), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Obl-%Dam(48)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50)
Level 47: Phalanx Fighting -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(13), Pnc-Heal(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(15)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Degenerative Core Interface
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
------------


| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build |
		|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
		|MxDz;1539;710;1420;HEX;|
		|78DA6594D94E5A511486F7814315045111D12A5569150439421D1AADC6A6456D1D1|
		|2123A5C35E41477959628014DDACB261D9FC017E8606FFA384D8717E84DD5CE6D3A|
		|9C2EF6FA15124E02DFDE6BFCF7DA1C56EEA4DCAF16EECD0ACD7DA16096CBD9CBE6C|
		|66D5972AC986BF99CA83C0DF409B2359B9237E546591A99F5BC2CAC1E6EFDF0AEC8|
		|8294C6359356664E0A6F7A73B3602C4B735596CAEBF9A247EDE7F36BEB5BF98D35F|
		|7A1B7481B97DA648A52AE06E68AF99C71BEB4BD25B399CDED02D52A6FC9D2DD4E92|
		|11A74FCA435F5A4598E5107E5A249DC2D60E7EB52BEADFC09FCC63BF2AD4C5B84BE|
		|0B184B825946F8EEA69A8A7ED217E9FD978007E62BA3E835F981354CFCEF51CF6FB|
		|BAB2353F64B63C021F33DB9EE84A43DB03DE2F505F07F7158E7ED6324FB6066869B|
		|8C2676ABFAAA9BC769CAD0367EBF8C1ECC4192F52AE531DC4124ED46BA5BB6BE27A|
		|F626CCAA13B33ADE022EF16C348AF560361ECCC64E362FE76BDE002D824ED1739AE|
		|375F2B5426BAB8B6BF534314FB8410FD8CCECF332DB28D787B3FBA075919AFB61F3|
		|436B07C505D03F005B1FF42F517C17EBD5BB266DEC9B62F69F05A7C1199BD23C45F|
		|7D58DFBEA0EB3EF64041C02A3CC5331304BE1615D84484B105A82318118A68F7CBD|
		|9845EFD34A5EA3187CC6F983CFC117CCF02EF892354D93A6107243AFF92EC36F984|
		|36FC177E07B9E7D749699230CE03C0371AE1B35C011E670024C72BFE10FC4A02E66|
		|A86F04B991DF1C13FF03FE05FF31472C50705F498861F6B151F8C698C97170023CC|
		|37D2FD17D19B85F037739491A12F8CD2530CB1EBDE61DB5E81143FAD11B6F45EBBC|
		|893A4BB2CE325A6719ABB32CD75A9CAC39ADA331D93415E56C397AE3AD8FAEA37F0|
		|EA1C559FD7ED566D3FA795AEE454DFD82DC7D7C8B7BB57911CE3BA8DA346D87BB37|
		|7FE77F8CB44B69523DAFD7ACCD9AF58D9AF5928FD230AF7381EA7A37545DEF54621|
		|0FF1FE9F5EC47|
		|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Edited August 14, 2021 by Werner

Werner · August 14, 2021

1 hour ago, Xandyr said:

And what am I doing wrong that when I try to export a build, that link posts, instead of how Werner's showed up?

I do short forum export, formatting code type "official forums (vbulletin)", export data chunk as well as data link.

Sign In

Concept toon, help me decide?

Recommended Posts

Xandyr

Werner

Psyonico

Omega Force

Outrider_01

siran

Omega Force

PLVRIZR

Warboss

BrandX

Bill Z Bubba

PLVRIZR

Bastille Boy

Xandyr

Bill Z Bubba

nihonsean

nihonsean

Bill Z Bubba

nihonsean

Werner

Xandyr

Xandyr

Werner

Werner

Create an account or sign in to comment

Create an account

Sign in

Browse

Activity

Game Account

Wikis