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Bill Z Bubba

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EDIT: The following thread was based off of Mids misreporting HP gain.

 

Yall know I main SR, running around without a heal is nothing new to me and DP is more of a proactive power anyway.

 

Just noticed in Mids building an Inv tank that without DP, I'm around 280HP short of the cap after I add in the passive accolades.

 

As I'm also not chasing max damage on this build, (hell, I'm actually skipping energy transfer AND total focus) I really don't need hasten either and I was going to take vengeance because I had nothing else to take. But I could drop all three and pick up spirit ward, arcane bolt and rune of protection.

 

Thoughts?

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You are at 3250hp passively? I'm asking because the Tanker HP cap was around 3200 for so long I got used to that number in my head. But now it's 3530, and I often make the mistake to think "3000ish" when there's really an extra 500hp to grab.

 

+500 maxHP is more or less like being 15% tougher, which is pretty nice. And then there's the heal on top, as infrequent as it may be.

But if you are that close to the cap and if the alternative is RoP, that could be interesting.

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Bill Z Bubba

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Huh... with accolades, 3411 HP, no dull pain, 76HP/sec regen.

 

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Has mids fixed +HP issues? It was grossly overstating HP bonuses from some sources in a recent build.

 

If you are indeed at this cap passively, I would consider majorly reworking the build to allow DP to pick up the slack, as it is a ton of wasted potential.

 

Edit - I think the mids issue was just with Earth's embrace. Other sources of plus HP are probably normal, but it's worth checking. I'm on mobile right now so can't give proper feedback otherwise. 

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Curious what your build looks like if you have that much HP without Dull Pain especially in relation to other layers of mitigation, resistance/defense.

 

I'm already skeptical due to you not taking TF or ET, as those would be the reason I would play EM (coming from a retired PvP background), as those powers would be very useful for whittling down an AV solo.

 

Since I'm at work I'll have to check your link when I get home.

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Bill Z Bubba

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2 hours ago, Gobbledegook said:

Mines says 2642 MaxHP without DP, 32.66regen.. DP with one heal enhance caps it with 43.69regen. All with accolades.

 

Staff Mastery would have got you the extra resistances if you aren't bothered about dps.

 

Then it's gotta be Mids. Didn't think this could have been right. What version are you on? I'm on 3.1.1.2.

 

I've already got a tank runnin et-long, tf, et-short, gloom, bonesmasher. This build is for far more punchvoke and far less corpse blasting. It won't be used for soloing TFs and AVs.

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9 minutes ago, Haijinx said:

But that is because COX is too easy.  

 

Especially on a tank. Edit: That damn +damres tank IO... who was the brain behind tanks being able to add 20.1 DR to EVERYTHING when triple stacking that IO?

 

And then HC gives them more damage and bigger AoEs.

 

Maddening.

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47 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

Then it's gotta be Mids. Didn't think this could have been right. What version are you on? I'm on 3.1.1.2.

 

I've already got a tank runnin et-long, tf, et-short, gloom, bonesmasher. This build is for far more punchvoke and far less corpse blasting. It won't be used for soloing TFs and AVs.

3.1.2.5

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33 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

Especially on a tank. Edit: That damn +damres tank IO... who was the brain behind tanks being able to add 20.1 DR to EVERYTHING when triple stacking that IO?

 

And then HC gives them more damage and bigger AoEs.

 

Maddening.

To be honest it should be half resistance and half defence buff anyway. As it is now it favours defence sets more.

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Heresy!

If you can work it out, I'm gonna be impressed. There are powers that are more necessary while leveling which can be dropped on dialed in expensive builds. 

 

2 hours ago, Gobbledegook said:

if you aren't bothered about dps.

 LOL!!

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On 1/3/2022 at 1:48 AM, Bill Z Bubba said:

Well, that's what Mids was showing but this version seems to have some issues so I'm not entirely sure how accurate that may be.

I want you to know I never post mistaknly or innacurately.  Bwah hah hah!

 

still, find it humorous you question Dull Pain.  "Well, the brochure said the steering wheel was optional...."

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8 minutes ago, Snarky said:

I want you to know I never post mistaknly or innacurately.  Bwah hah hah!

 

still, find it humorous you question Dull Pain.  "Well, the brochure said the steering wheel was optional...."

 

It was late! Or early! Not the first time I've trusted Mids only to find out later how wrong the build turned out.

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2 hours ago, tidge said:

For 95% of content, it isn't the +HP (or Healing from) Dull Pain itself that interests me, its the +MaxEnd and global +Recharge from 6-slotting Preventive Medicine I crave.

 

Tis a good spot for that since the Prev Med Chance for Absorb works regardless of where it's slotted.

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Here's the fixed build if anyone wants it. It should be amazingly mediocre!

 

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On 1/3/2022 at 4:26 AM, Bill Z Bubba said:

EDIT: The following thread was based off of Mids misreporting HP gain.

 

Yall know I main SR, running around without a heal is nothing new to me and DP is more of a proactive power anyway.

 

Just noticed in Mids building an Inv tank that without DP, I'm around 280HP short of the cap after I add in the passive accolades.

 

As I'm also not chasing max damage on this build, (hell, I'm actually skipping energy transfer AND total focus) I really don't need hasten either and I was going to take vengeance because I had nothing else to take. But I could drop all three and pick up spirit ward, arcane bolt and rune of protection.

 

Thoughts?

 

What da fuuuuu...?

Everything okay, Bill? Is there something you want to talk about, bud?  😜

In all seriousness, do what you want, man...if it works and you are able to do your job as a Tank, it shouldn't matter. You could always test the build out on test server if you are curious how effective the idea is?

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