graeberguinn Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 It's late and I'm looking at some funny MM toon ideas. Read about petless MMs. So could be all whips like dominatrix. Or a boy raised by wolves who only uses beast mode and his momma wolf follows him and fights with him and brings along his other forest friends. Could be an Asian HS student who is failing all classes and sucks at piano and suffers emotional damage. Summons his ancestor, ONI and runs around singing Moni ONI ONI. What would be your most ridiculous backstrories or concept for petless or T3 pet only MM. Something that might actually be decent also and not totally suck in game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 This is an alternate build I have for my Robots/Traps MM: "A Boy and His Robot". I don't usually run this build, but it is more viable in this (i27p5) era than it was before for a multiple reasons (power changes, level choices for powers). The arc I use to gauge how (in)effective a "petless" (or reduced number of henchmen) MM is the "Lost and Found" from Montague Castanella at level 50... I landed on this one because it used to be absolutely miserable and I see no need to seek out a more miserable one. Spoiler A Boy and His (One Big) Robot Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Traps Power Pool: Force of Will Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery ------------ Level 1: Battle Drones (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage: Level 50 (*) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (*) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets: Level 30 (*) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus: Level 40 (*) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus: Level 50 Level 1: Caltrops (A) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Bombardment - Chance of Damage(Fire): Level 50 (*) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 50 (*) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50 (*) Ice Mistral’s Torment - Chance for Damage(Cold): Level 50 Level 2: Web Grenade (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure:50 (Acc/Mez) Level 4: Mighty Leap (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50 Level 6: Weaken Resolve (A) HamiO: Lysosome Exposure (Acc/Def Debuff/ToHit Debuff) (*) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage: Level 30 (*) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage: Level 50 Level 8: Photon Grenade (A) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 50 (*) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50 (*) Bombardment - Chance of Damage(Fire): Level 50 (*)Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 50 (*) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50 Level 10: Acid Mortar (A) Undermined Defenses - Defense Debuff: Level 50 (*) Undermined Defenses - Defense Debuff/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Undermined Defenses - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Undermined Defenses - Recharge: Level 50 (*) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage: Level 50 (*) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20 Level 12: Equip Robot (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance: Level 50 (*) Unbreakable Guard - +7.5% MaxHP: Level 50 Level 14: Wall of Force (A) D-Sync Guidance:50 (Accuracy/Range) (*) HamiO Centriole Exposure:50 (Damage/ Range) (*) Bombardment - Chance of Damage(Fire): Level 50 (*) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 50 (*) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50 (*) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 20 Level 16: Force Field Generator (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50 (*) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50 (*) Defense Buff IO: Level 50+5 Level 18: Maintenance Drone (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal: Level 50 (*) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50 Level 20: Poison Trap (A) Gladiator's Net - Accuracy/Hold: Level 50+5 (*) Gladiator's Net - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Gladiator's Net - Recharge/Hold: Level 50 (*) Gladiator's Net - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 50 (*) Gladiator's Net - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 50 (*) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50 Level 22: Assault Bot (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (*) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura: Level 50 (*) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up: Level 50 Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Shield Wall - Defense: Level 50+5 (*) Shield Wall – Defense/Endurance Level 50+5 (*) Shield Wall - Teleportation Protection / +Resistance (All): Level 50 (*) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50 Level 26: Upgrade Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50+5 Level 28: Seeker Drones (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun: Level 50 (*) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun: Level 50 (*) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50 Level 30: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50 (*) Endurance Cost Reduction IO: Level 50+5 Or (*) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure: 50 (End / ToHit / Def) Level 32: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50+5 Level 35: Scorpion Shield (A) Reactive Defenses - Defense: Level 50 (*) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (*) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage: Level 50 Level 38: Kick (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 41: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30 (*) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50 (*) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance / Endurance Reduction: Level 50+5 Level 44: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50 Level 47: Unleash Potential (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50 Level 49: Protector Bots (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50 (*) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen: Level 50 (*) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets: Level 50 (*) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50 ------------ Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth: Level 50 Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) Interrupt Reduction IO: Level 50+5 Level 4: Athletic Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50+5 Level 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50 (*) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50 Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO: Level 50+5 Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50 (*) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50 ------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtmaire Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I’ve been futzing around with “Action Hero Sidekick” - mercs/traps summoning only T3. Character is basically a scrawny kid trying to keep up with the 80s era action movie soldier of fortune with too many guns. Traps is suitably self-contained and functional. And with stealth, can do a lot solo. But it’s slow. Sloooooow! 1 The Splintered Soul Project: (Nyght****) 23 and counting. DSorrow: “Give a man a build export and you feed him for a day, teach him to build and he's fed for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High_Beam Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Nyghtmaire said: I’ve been futzing around with “Action Hero Sidekick” - mercs/traps summoning only T3. Character is basically a scrawny kid trying to keep up with the 80s era action movie soldier of fortune with too many guns. Traps is suitably self-contained and functional. And with stealth, can do a lot solo. But it’s slow. Sloooooow! I find this to be interesting in concept, like the Last Action Hero . . . especially when Danny realized he's the comic relief sidekick. Girls of Nukem High - Excelsior - Tempus Fabulous, Flattery, Jennifer Chilly, Betty Beatdown, Kitty Conflag Babes of War - Excelsior - Di Di Guns, Krystala, Tideway, Runeslinger, Munitions Mistress, Operative Violet, Boom Boom Britta Several alts and of course my original from live on Freedom, OG High Beam (someone else has her non OG name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I've thought these kind of self constraints players put on themselves interesting for awhile but I've never been one for self-restraint. I take my MM projects to the extreme where I might run multiple accounts of them. I guess for backstories you could always say that you used to have other minions but overtime they didn't make it whether they died, slowed you down, or just gave you the bird for being the world's worst boss. How do these kinda MMs hold up to the game's content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, SeraphimKensai said: How do these kinda MMs hold up to the game's content? My experience with running only alongside a single T3 henchman is that the (lack of) damage output hurts more than anything else. Fewer "bodyguards" is also something that needs to be factored in. Eventually the Endurance tax catches up, because the MM will need to be much more active. It is possible to use Grant Invisibility to stealth some missions with a single henchman already summoned, but at the final objective you will still be a MM with but a single henchman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/11/2023 at 5:27 AM, graeberguinn said: So could be all whips like dominatrix. Yep. it works up to a point, but I wouldn't level up past you have the whip powers six slotted. I would just level lock it at that point and play at that level or lower with the character. I have fun with a whips/electric. But whips/traps works okay. When you are on a team and teammates comment about you not having minions, just reply "I have x minions" where x = the number of characters on the team - 1. On 3/11/2023 at 5:27 AM, graeberguinn said: T3 pet only MM. No idea. If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they are most probably on ignore. Some of them even know that I have them on ignore. But that won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. It's who they are. There is a group of them that have banded together to do it. They think that it is acceptable. Ignore is a tool to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seebs Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I had a character concept once named "Spare Genin" who was a scrapper whose theme was "one of the pets associated with a petless mastermind", which is not TECHNICALLY a mastermind build but implies the existence of one somewhere else. I was raised by the clan, to be the ideal killing machine. Finally, I was assigned to a master, one who would take me out into the world. I was to be his hands, his feet, his wrath and vengeance. And so I waited, invisible. While he went around plinking away at things with this DORKY little bow. And he... just kept doing that. DORKY little bow. Plink plink. Here I am, ready to destroy those who oppose him, and... plink. plink. So I wandered off. He hasn't noticed yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 One of my Controllers (who went through Redside) has a bio that explicitly identifies him as a former hench that got "cut" because he was always making people fall down, or otherwise getting in each others' way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerFox Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 A Watcher/pacifist style character. When teammates ask if you're going to help fight, reply, "I'm only here to observe and save." All the pets can be taken but must remain in passive mode. Bots are preferred for the T2 shields, heals and Maintenance Drone. Protector Bots won't heal/bubble while passive so that needs to be done between enemy groups. MM picks must consist of passive, non-attack, 0 damage powers. Oppressive Gloom or Hibernate. Phase Shift is a good one. Pacify, Misdirection, Stealth, Medicine PP etc. As for the secondary, FF would fit the concept. Repulsion Field needs to be heavily slotted for KB. Or Dark Miasma, Black Hole frequently. When teammates yell at you, response should be in along the lines of, "Stop, you're hurting them." Feel free to Fold Space enemies away from your teammates to help keep the peace. The MM needs to wear glasses. Nobody would hit a guy with glasses. Battlecry should be something like, "Use words, not weapons!" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtmaire Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 22 minutes ago, StrikerFox said: A Watcher/pacifist style character. When teammates ask if you're going to help fight, reply, "I'm only here to observe and save." Um… uh … oh! I kinda love this. RP the Bots as stenographers or recording devices. Edited March 19 by Nyghtmaire 1 1 The Splintered Soul Project: (Nyght****) 23 and counting. DSorrow: “Give a man a build export and you feed him for a day, teach him to build and he's fed for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjknight Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 One I've been toying with: "Dr. Cordyceps"... a Necro/Nature MM. Background is a controversial research scientist, whose experiments with fungi goes frighteningly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High_Beam Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 3/18/2023 at 10:10 AM, tidge said: One of my Controllers (who went through Redside) has a bio that explicitly identifies him as a former hench that got "cut" because he was always making people fall down, or otherwise getting in each others' way. Arsonist. I'd tell him, keep the zippo in your pants but he never listens. Girls of Nukem High - Excelsior - Tempus Fabulous, Flattery, Jennifer Chilly, Betty Beatdown, Kitty Conflag Babes of War - Excelsior - Di Di Guns, Krystala, Tideway, Runeslinger, Munitions Mistress, Operative Violet, Boom Boom Britta Several alts and of course my original from live on Freedom, OG High Beam (someone else has her non OG name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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