Did Fiery Embrace ever effect Pool Powers?

[kelika2]

Trying to make my MA/Fire scrapper work with some extra aoe.  Then I noticed Fiery Embrace didnt effect Spring Attack, then Jump Kick and using a second build none of the pool powers do either.  Now I dont know if they ever did

[FupDup]

We can verify this by looking over on City of Data. Every Scrapper primary attack has its own line (extra damage) tagged to be active during Fiery Embrace, but this tag is absent on every pool power. I'm guessing they probably never did but I've never looked into this particular ability sooooo...

 

It does seem pretty weird. I guess it does make sense for certain very stronk attacks like sniper beams to not have such a huge damage bonus but the more basic and shitty pool attacks could probably use the extra boost. 

Edited August 5, 2023 by FupDup

[Snarky]

yeah, because what the game balance needs at this point is for fire to do more damage...

 

 

[Ghost]

6 minutes ago, Snarky said:

yeah, because what the game balance needs at this point is for fire to do more damage...

 

 

[catsi563]

well it does say all your fire attacks for a while and non fire attacks for a short period so it may not have been active for your other attacks

 

 

=>_>=

 

*FIREBALLS snarky*

Edited August 5, 2023 by catsi563

[Outrider_01]

No. Trying to get a log of damage from my brute but I have zero internet connection of frozen maple syrup.  The fire damage didn't even affect boxing or brawl  but Incarnate degenerative proc on both

[Player2]

19 hours ago, Snarky said:

yeah, because what the game balance needs at this point is for fire to do more damage...

 

 

And Regen needs to regen faster.

[Uun]

It appears that Fiery Embrace works with Tanker and Brute epic sets but not with Scrapper epic sets (Stalkers and Sentinels don't get Fiery Embrace). I'm guessing this is a bug.

[Snarky]

4 hours ago, Player2 said:

And Regen needs to regen faster.

next update they are nerfing Regen

[macskull]

On 8/5/2023 at 12:29 AM, kelika2 said:

Trying to make my MA/Fire scrapper work with some extra aoe.  Then I noticed Fiery Embrace didnt effect Spring Attack, then Jump Kick and using a second build none of the pool powers do either.  Now I dont know if they ever did

 

On 8/5/2023 at 7:01 AM, FupDup said:

We can verify this by looking over on City of Data. Every Scrapper primary attack has its own line (extra damage) tagged to be active during Fiery Embrace, but this tag is absent on every pool power. I'm guessing they probably never did but I've never looked into this particular ability sooooo...

 

It does seem pretty weird. I guess it does make sense for certain very stronk attacks like sniper beams to not have such a huge damage bonus but the more basic and shitty pool attacks could probably use the extra boost. 

 

3 hours ago, Uun said:

It appears that Fiery Embrace works with Tanker and Brute epic sets but not with Scrapper epic sets (Stalkers and Sentinels don't get Fiery Embrace). I'm guessing this is a bug.

 

On 8/5/2023 at 10:09 AM, catsi563 said:

well it does say all your fire attacks for a while and non fire attacks for a short period so it may not have been active for your other attacks

 

 

=>_>=

 

*FIREBALLS snarky*

Fiery Embrace used to work like Embrace of Fire (the Dominator version) and gave a straight damage boost. The exact boost varied by AT but for Scrappers it was 100% boost to fire damage for 20 seconds and 80% boost to all other types of damage for 10 seconds. In Issue 18 it was changed to add additional fire damage to all your attacks (but the old +dam version was kept in PvP). The way this is accomplished is by setting a "global chance mod" from 0% to 100% for any power with the "Fiery Embrace" tag in order to tell the game to add the extra fire damage. Unfortunately this means adding that information to every single damage power Scrappers can use so it's probably an oversight that Scrapper epic and pool powers don't have the tags, especially since Fiery Embrace's description says it "causes all your damaging powers to do bonus fire damage."

 

TL;DR: FE used to affect pool powers back when it was a damage buff and those powers never had the correct flags added to them when FE got changed 13 years ago.

[Chance Jackson]

On 8/5/2023 at 3:29 AM, kelika2 said:

Trying to make my MA/Fire scrapper work with some extra aoe.  Then I noticed Fiery Embrace didnt effect Spring Attack, then Jump Kick and using a second build none of the pool powers do either.  Now I dont know if they ever did

Why a scrapper? That combo gives you 7.5 def to all positions & types when storm kick hits as a brute

Edited August 7, 2023 by Chance Jackson

[kelika2]

6 hours ago, Chance Jackson said:

Why a scrapper? That combo gives you 7.5 def to all positions & types when storm kick hits as a brute

more damage.

[carroto]

On 8/5/2023 at 9:44 AM, Snarky said:

yeah, because what the game balance needs at this point is for fire to do more damage...

 

 

 

The recent Burn nerf would like to have a word.