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Work-in-progress Warshade build... I'll definitely be moving a slot after this, and incarnates are T3.

 

Player Name: @Weasel

Character Name: Umbralily

AT: Warshade

Powers: Changeling

Pylon Time: 140 Seconds

0x8 Time: 289 Seconds

4x8 Time: 427 Seconds

 

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6 hours ago, wesslen said:

Work-in-progress Warshade build... I'll definitely be moving a slot after this, and incarnates are T3.

 

Player Name: @Weasel

Character Name: Umbralily

AT: Warshade

Powers: Changeling

Pylon Time: 140 Seconds

0x8 Time: 289 Seconds

4x8 Time: 427 Seconds

 

Umbralily.mbd 50.92 kB · 2 downloads


Nice to have another Kheldian on there! You are already at A+ so can't wait to see how well you do once the build is done 💛

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1 day, 3 respecs, and 2 T4s later - version 2 both performed better and is more fun to play.

 

I don't like running with full mez protection as it basically removes one of the very few reasons to actively consider the enemies we're fighting, as opposed to treating them all as interchangeable target dummies. Unfortunately with the previous version I had to run Clarion to survive 4x8. The new version survived even using Ageless (after a few attempts to figure out the tactics), which is a lot more fun to play IMO. (Changelings kind of work like Blasters while mezzed, in that only some of the attacks are available.)

 

Player Name: @Weasel
Character Name: Umbralily
AT: Warshade
Powers: Changeling
Pylon Time: 109 seconds
0x8 Time: 217 seconds
4x8 Time: 377 seconds

Comment: v2, using Ageless

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1 hour ago, wesslen said:

1 day, 3 respecs, and 2 T4s later - version 2 both performed better and is more fun to play.

 

I don't like running with full mez protection as it basically removes one of the very few reasons to actively consider the enemies we're fighting, as opposed to treating them all as interchangeable target dummies. Unfortunately with the previous version I had to run Clarion to survive 4x8. The new version survived even using Ageless (after a few attempts to figure out the tactics), which is a lot more fun to play IMO. (Changelings kind of work like Blasters while mezzed, in that only some of the attacks are available.)

 

Player Name: @Weasel
Character Name: Umbralily
AT: Warshade
Powers: Changeling
Pylon Time: 109 seconds
0x8 Time: 217 seconds
4x8 Time: 377 seconds

Comment: v2, using Ageless

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Huge improvement across the board! You went from A+ to SS tier!

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3 hours ago, wesslen said:

1 day, 3 respecs, and 2 T4s later - version 2 both performed better and is more fun to play.

 

I don't like running with full mez protection as it basically removes one of the very few reasons to actively consider the enemies we're fighting, as opposed to treating them all as interchangeable target dummies. Unfortunately with the previous version I had to run Clarion to survive 4x8. The new version survived even using Ageless (after a few attempts to figure out the tactics), which is a lot more fun to play IMO. (Changelings kind of work like Blasters while mezzed, in that only some of the attacks are available.)

 

Player Name: @Weasel
Character Name: Umbralily
AT: Warshade
Powers: Changeling
Pylon Time: 109 seconds
0x8 Time: 217 seconds
4x8 Time: 377 seconds

Comment: v2, using Ageless

Umbralily v2.mbd 49.75 kB · 2 downloads

Nice improvement!

I'm happy to see the amount of commitment to chase some desired results.

 

Tactics definitely come into play in here, which can help progress participants playstyles. 

 

Send me an in game email (if you haven't already) if you'd like to claim your submission incentive 🙂 @It's Amra

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First Sentinel Benchmark:

 

Dark Blast / Rad Armor Sentinel

 

Pylon - 113s
+0x8 w/ Bosses - 333s
+4x8 w/ Bosses - 525s

 

Comment: Sentinel's reliance on 10-target AoE nukes and the lack of a taunt aura really hurts solo clear capabilities. But Blackstar debuffs with Rad Armor makes you very tanky. Putting the runners issue aside, Ground Zero + Aim + Blackstar + Dark Obliteration is a very strong AoE opener.

Sentinel (Dark Blast - Radiation Armor) General.mbd

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On 8/16/2024 at 5:23 AM, Snarky said:

of course it is a competition.  you saw the specific grade system?  no?

 

i never clear pylons.  i will not do this.  

 

enjoy gazing at your epeens

 

At least we can look at our epeens in the mirror, bloodsucker!

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Who run Bartertown?

 

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I wanted to try this with my Plant/Storm Controller, but the mission has too many spawns in the deep water.  For several of those spawns, I could not reliably fire Tornado or Carrion Creepers.  (I use macros to drop those at my current target.  When the target was in deeper water, the power wouldn't fire, requiring me to unselect a target, click the power, then manually click a spot of shallower water.)  All of that really threw off my muscle memory and timing.  

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On 10/15/2024 at 9:28 PM, mezzosoprano said:

I wanted to try this with my Plant/Storm Controller, but the mission has too many spawns in the deep water.  For several of those spawns, I could not reliably fire Tornado or Carrion Creepers.  (I use macros to drop those at my current target.  When the target was in deeper water, the power wouldn't fire, requiring me to unselect a target, click the power, then manually click a spot of shallower water.)  All of that really threw off my muscle memory and timing.  

 

I've thankfully not ran into that yet, as I too enjoy using macros for location AoEs. I'll try to block out some time when I get back from my work trip to replicate it and put a ticket in. I'd recommend doing the same, perhaps we can get some attention towards the issue.

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The other day I discovered Adrenal Booster from Experimentation has really good values on Tanker so I decided to give it a go on the test server:

 

Bio/Axe Tanker

 

Pylon - 81s
+0x8 w/ Bosses - 211s
+4x8 w/ Bosses - 300s

 

 

Tanker (Bio Armor - Battle Axe).mbd

Tanker (Bio Armor - Battle Axe).mbd

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Maybe dps to survivability should be judged also. Some of these Pylon builds look far less sturdy than they should. Why? so you can whack a static target that doesn't fight back with procced attacks?

 

Also add a fun factor rating to builds/powers also 🤪

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40 minutes ago, Gobbledigook said:

Maybe dps to survivability should be judged also. Some of these Pylon builds look far less sturdy than they should. Why? so you can whack a static target that doesn't fight back with procced attacks?

 

Also add a fun factor rating to builds/powers also 🤪

Survivability IS being judged, the +4x8 map includes difficult mobs including an EB and vengeance mobs.

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2 hours ago, Auroxis said:

Survivability IS being judged, the +4x8 map includes difficult mobs including an EB and vengeance mobs.

But Blasters have done it? If a Blaster can do it then i would say any AT can, so that test looks to be completed.

 

Is it best of the best or best in class? a Stalker could not compete in clearing vs a Brute for example.

 

Maybe do a test with SO's only after this. A comparison between basic AT builds on SO's vs the potential of a full IO procced build. 

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On 11/12/2024 at 10:44 PM, Auroxis said:

The other day I discovered Adrenal Booster from Experimentation has really good values on Tanker so I decided to give it a go on the test server:

 

Bio/Axe Tanker

 

Pylon - 84s
+0x8 w/ Bosses - 211s
+4x8 w/ Bosses - 300s

 

 

Tanker (Bio Armor - Battle Axe).mbd 43.16 kB · 5 downloads

I would like to see the Pylon clip. 84 seconds without Hybrid on and not fully procced is very impressive. 

 

I have not done the new Pylons only the old and best i got was 89 seconds and that was a freak, usually around 1.40-1.45 with hybrid on. SS/Bio Tanker.

 

Maybe i should give axe a whirl 😉

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4 hours ago, Gobbledigook said:

I would like to see the Pylon clip. 84 seconds without Hybrid on and not fully procced is very impressive. 

 

I have not done the new Pylons only the old and best i got was 89 seconds and that was a freak, usually around 1.40-1.45 with hybrid on. SS/Bio Tanker.

 

Maybe i should give axe a whirl 😉

 

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On 11/12/2024 at 10:44 PM, Auroxis said:

The other day I discovered Adrenal Booster from Experimentation has really good values on Tanker so I decided to give it a go on the test server:

 

Bio/Axe Tanker

 

Pylon - 81s
+0x8 w/ Bosses - 211s
+4x8 w/ Bosses - 300s

 

 

Tanker (Bio Armor - Battle Axe).mbd 43.16 kB · 10 downloads


Very amazing times across the board! Placed in a solid SS+ tier 💛

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On 11/12/2024 at 3:44 PM, Auroxis said:

The other day I discovered Adrenal Booster from Experimentation has really good values on Tanker so I decided to give it a go on the test server:

 

Bio/Axe Tanker

 

Pylon - 81s
+0x8 w/ Bosses - 211s
+4x8 w/ Bosses - 300s

 

 

Tanker (Bio Armor - Battle Axe).mbd 43.16 kB · 12 downloads

Stellar job! This was pretty enjoyable to see 😄 

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