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Microcosm

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3 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

And a chain that's unsustainable without ageless means no master runs and no exemplaring, but still, it's cool to look at. I may play with that idea some on beta with a db/bio to see what I can do.

 

Edit: I still won't be going procmonster on claws. I don't like using shockwave in my ST chain due to its end usage and eviscerate is right out due to its ridiculous animation. Someone tried to pull that move on me would get a boot to the spine halfway through it.

Look forward to that. I don't think bio will be able to do this chain without severe gimping or large gaps, because it has to come up with an extra 20% recharge somehow. I think ElA and EnA are the most capable of it given the +rech and the recovery tools. But if you find bio can do it I will subscribe to the Billz Builds podcast immediately.

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Bill Z Bubba

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59 minutes ago, Microcosm said:

Look forward to that. I don't think bio will be able to do this chain without severe gimping or large gaps, because it has to come up with an extra 20% recharge somehow. I think ElA and EnA are the most capable of it given the +rech and the recovery tools. But if you find bio can do it I will subscribe to the Billz Builds podcast immediately.

 

We can ALWAYS gimp up a build more for more recharge. Don't forget day jobs and base buffs to push for even more if needed.

leeowensoas

leeowensoas

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11 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Upon further testing of this latest DB/SR outside of pylons, I would describe it's defensive capability as "not good enough".

How do you build your SR scrappers? Mind sharing a build I can look at? I usually go pretty balls-out on damage and recharge, but what do you add to SR to get it where you consider it “good enough”?more resists or hp? Pool powers? (I haven’t run aid self in years, never tried rune of protection). I don’t make “pylon builds”, I see plenty of builds on here that pretty much only work for pylons, but this is my actual build that I run content (usually +2/8, mostly cause +4 is a heck of a slog) with, and I haven’t felt particularly squishy. But we might also just have different expectations or standards for survivability. But I don’t feel like I’ve had end problems, never run ageless, like I said I think I’m gonna spec OUT of body mastery

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Bill Z Bubba

Bill Z Bubba

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1 hour ago, leeowensoas said:

How do you build your SR scrappers?

 

Dunno about DE, but I'm a big fan of balance between damage output and mitigation, where possible. Here's my main's current build. Leaned into Nrg/Neg DR for ITF runs.

 

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Bill Z Bubba: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(3), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(5)
Level 2: Slash -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Hct-Acc/Rchg(15), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Hct-Dam%(17), AchHee-ResDeb%(17)
Level 4: Focused Senses -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(21)
Level 6: Spin -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Arm-Acc/Rchg(23), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Arm-Dam%(25), Erd-%Dam(25)
Level 8: Follow Up -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(31)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 16: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Focus -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Apc-Acc/Rchg(33), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Apc-Dam%(33), GldJvl-Dam%(34)
Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), GldArm-3defTpProc(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(36)
Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37)
Level 24: Dodge -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def(39), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(40)
Level 26: Agile -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def(42)
Level 28: Lucky -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def(43)
Level 30: Quickness -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 32: Shockwave -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(45)
Level 35: Evasion -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(46), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(46), Rct-Def/Rchg(46), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(47), Rct-ResDam%(47)
Level 38: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Absorb%(47), Mrc-Heal(48), Mrc-Rcvry+(48), PrfShf-End%(48)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Evasive Maneuvers -- GifoftheA-Run+(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(5), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal(7), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Pnc-Heal/+End(9)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(11), PrfShf-End%(11), PwrTrns-+Heal(13)
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 12: Afterburner
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Late edit: This build sits around 2:45 for pylons. Not great but functional.

Edited by Bill Z Bubba
Enots

Enots

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13 minutes ago, DarknessEternal said:

I don't.  I find SR weak on both health or endurance.  Incarnate can't fix both.

 

I use Energy Armor.

I’m amazed at how far a little extra regen goes on a SR character. Also for my brutes and tanks especially I have to get real comfortable at 30% hp and less. Capped defense that can’t be stripped, decent resists and a little regen make taking down that last bit of HP very tough. 

leeowensoas

leeowensoas

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5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

 

Dunno about DE, but I'm a big fan of balance between damage output and mitigation, where possible. Here's my main's current build. Leaned into Nrg/Neg DR for ITF runs.

 

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Bill Z Bubba: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(3), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(5)
Level 2: Slash -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Hct-Acc/Rchg(15), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Hct-Dam%(17), AchHee-ResDeb%(17)
Level 4: Focused Senses -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(19), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(21)
Level 6: Spin -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Arm-Acc/Rchg(23), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Arm-Dam%(25), Erd-%Dam(25)
Level 8: Follow Up -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(31)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 16: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Focus -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Apc-Acc/Rchg(33), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Apc-Dam%(33), GldJvl-Dam%(34)
Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(34), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), UnbGrd-Max HP%(36), GldArm-3defTpProc(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(36)
Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37)
Level 24: Dodge -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def(39), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(40)
Level 26: Agile -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def(42)
Level 28: Lucky -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def(43)
Level 30: Quickness -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 32: Shockwave -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(45)
Level 35: Evasion -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(46), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(46), Rct-Def/Rchg(46), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(47), Rct-ResDam%(47)
Level 38: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Absorb%(47), Mrc-Heal(48), Mrc-Rcvry+(48), PrfShf-End%(48)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Evasive Maneuvers -- GifoftheA-Run+(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(5), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal(7), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Pnc-Heal/+End(9)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(11), PrfShf-End%(11), PwrTrns-+Heal(13)
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 12: Afterburner
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Late edit: This build sits around 2:45 for pylons. Not great but functional.

 

BillZ, that's a great lookin build, and I imagine the extra regen will go pretty dang far. What incarnates are you using with that (and did you use hybrid for yourr pylon run)? I'm gonna try and work up a build that uses BF->AV and can let go of some of the recharge chase in exchange for building out resists and regen, but that still keeps enough room in key attacks for some procs. I'll be definitely drawing heavy inspiration from your slotting wisdom here (I always forget about the Shield Wall set bonuses because most PVP sets hide their best bonuses in PVP only).

 

I would admit that my build is at about the bare minimum of what I consider acceptable survivability, and I'd like to make a tankier second build which uses the wonderful slotting freedom of the DB/SR combo to push survivability while still keeping acceptable DPS (though I suspect this goal would work much better on a brute or tanker, as both can still kill AVs quite effectively with BF->AV, and the combo doesn't really need recharge for much of anything if not using the higher recharge attack chains. Further, I've never really explored adding survivability with Incarnates (other than Rebirth kicking Aid Self out of every build ever), because I don't like when my builds can't function without incarnates (like relying on the Barrier 5% to softcap a build or the recharge boost from Ageless(?) to run an attack chain. My build philosophy always rests around building a complete, self-sufficient character with only IOs, no temps, insps, boosters, etc. (old school scrapper rules) and then using incarnates to add more DPS to an already stable base. I will admit that this leaves me building with blinders on at times, and I've been itching to finally start branching out.

 

That's actually why I fell in love with this combo originally, Dual Blades really only needs 4-7 powers from the primary and can comfortably skip a couple. SR requires 8 power choices, but not necessarily a lot of slots. BF->AV is relatively end efficient as far as high-DPS chains go, so neither set really *NEEDS* anything from IO bonuses or pool powers (other than the virtually universally obligatory Tough, Weave, and Combat Jumping or Hover). Arguably the combo doesn't even need hasten for optimal performance. As such, it ends up being a fantastic baseline "blank slate" to build with, because all the slotting sacrificed to chasing recharge and defense on other combos can be played around with either for power or just for fun experimentation. There's plenty of room to try out wacky pool powers and epics, to try any and every incarnate. Compared to my shield builds, for instance, which have to sacrifice a lot of fun or flavor in the name of ruthless efficiency, perma-hasten, and 45% defenses, I could build this combo with any slotting goals and still know that I'm gonna be able to survive more or less well enough, and do enough baseline damage, to engage in pretty much any  part of the game solo or in a group in a way that lives up to my personal standards and expectations for a scrapper.

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Bill Z Bubba

Bill Z Bubba

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1 hour ago, leeowensoas said:

Follow up question: What are the static (as in: last the entire 2 minutes) recharge bonus in Ageless and Resist/Defense bonuses in Barrier?

 

Should be 5% Res/Def in Barrier.

 

Looks like CoD shows 10% for last minute on Ageless.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net./html/power.html?power=incarnate.destiny.ageless_radial_epiphany&at=tanker

 

I run with Musc Core, Degen Core, Pyronic Core, Assault Core and I do click Assault at the beginning up my pylon runs and Pyronic when I can.

 

leeowensoas

leeowensoas

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5 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

I don't.  I find SR weak on both health or endurance.  Incarnate can't fix both.

 

I use Energy Armor.

What do you think of this build? I was heavily influenced by Bill's build. Bill, would love to hear your feedback as well, I tried to at least match your build in all the core stats (HP, Regen, S/L/E/N Res). Managed to keep the 2 most important attacks (BF and SS) optimized for the essential procs (the purples, CS, and one -res), and the two attacks that benefit from the critical strikes proc and double-stacked BF are slotted to max out their critical damage, which is a compromise I can accept, especially if I switch back to Assault Core Hybrid. I'm pretty sure I could find a way to squeeze RoP in there if I made other sacrifices, but I haven't tried it out, and I already hate giving up Fly/Hover/EM and Zapp/BL/ES.  I mocked up a brute version of this on mids that fit RoP and got much higher numbers on, well, everything. Sure the damage would be much less impressive though.

 

All incarnates the same as before, except with Hybrid Assault CORE instead of radial (no +25% dmg from Empower, BF only staying double-stacked for 2 attacks, and no room for Gaussian's means the +dmg has more benefit than on the prior build, as does the fact that two of the attacks have heavy recharge slotting reduces the benefit of doublehit. Doesn't need Ageless for either the recharge or the end, so I kept Rebirth for a just-in-case heal/regen boost (though I never even had to think about using it against a pylon. Barrier could be an option to push the res higher, not sure if that would be better than the heal.)

 

Dropped a pylon in 2:00 on the dot on my first try. Only did one run with Radial but it was significantly slower, close to 3 minutes.

  

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Bill Z Bubba

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Sittin on beta with a db/bio scrapper running empower, ss, repeat. Getting around 1:20 to 1:40 on pylons. Times are being hurt by the need to fire off DNA Siphon from time to time. And by that damn rikti gunboat. Really don't know about the Gaussian CFBU in BF. At 1PPM, it's just not firing off that often. Also nowhere near the damage cap so Assault Core should be the way to go.

 

All in all, was interesting to see and I may look at Empower, SS instead of BF, AS, SS on my db/nrg scrapper.

 

Here's the build. I'll be stickin with my standard way of doing things. I'm not pushin out the big numbers but the builds feel much more stable.

 

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Sovera

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2 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Sittin on beta with a db/bio scrapper running empower, ss, repeat. Getting around 1:20 to 1:40 on pylons. Times are being hurt by the need to fire off DNA Siphon from time to time. And by that damn rikti gunboat. Really don't know about the Gaussian CFBU in BF. At 1PPM, it's just not firing off that often. Also nowhere near the damage cap so Assault Core should be the way to go.

 

All in all, was interesting to see and I may look at Empower, SS instead of BF, AS, SS on my db/nrg scrapper.

 

Here's the build. I'll be stickin with my standard way of doing things. I'm not pushin out the big numbers but the builds feel much more stable.

 

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People rave a bit too much about Gaussian because they haven't actually tested it. Bopper puts it at a 10% chance of going off. I mean, yeah, it will go off, eventually.

 

Bio is just too squishy for me. Try Stone for a happy medium. Not nearly as squish and a nice damage boost. Of course not the same Bio times though but at some point we need to consider if we are going to play it or just pew pew at a pylon with it.

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Bill Z Bubba

Bill Z Bubba

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1 hour ago, Sovera said:

Of course not the same Bio times though but at some point we need to consider if we are going to play it or just pew pew at a pylon with it.

 

Truth. I bust out my claws/bio when I know I'm going to team. Sure, he can solo, but it's a high-clicky and stressful ride. Probably why I lean tank these days. Can slip into autopilot mode and never worry about green and blue bars.

SomeGuy

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6 hours ago, Sovera said:

 

People rave a bit too much about Gaussian because they haven't actually tested it. Bopper puts it at a 10% chance of going off. I mean, yeah, it will go off, eventually.

 

 

 

 

I'm one of those people that rave about it for sure. But I only put it in on demand powers, like buildup, FU, or BF. Never really understood it being slotted in stuff like tactics where it has the chance to go off while you're doing nothing. It goes off WAYYYY more than just 1/10 times in stuff like those powers. The base recharge in BU is 90s, even getting the rechar5ge down to about 25s makes that proc go off a LOT. It doesn't go off that sort of consistency in BF/FU but it's definitely way more than 1/10.

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Sovera

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1 minute ago, SomeGuy said:

 

 

I'm one of those people that rave about it for sure. But I only put it in on demand powers, like buildup, FU, or BF. Never really understood it being slotted in stuff like tactics where it has the chance to go off while you're doing nothing. It goes off WAYYYY more than just 1/10 times in stuff like those powers. The base recharge in BU is 90s, even getting the rechar5ge down to about 25s makes that proc go off a LOT. It doesn't go off that sort of consistency in BF/FU but it's definitely way more than 1/10.

 

Well, on BU, of course. You're right that I only left implied about it being slotted in FU/Feint though. In BU it's a big difference.

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7 hours ago, Sovera said:

 

People rave a bit too much about Gaussian because they haven't actually tested it. Bopper puts it at a 10% chance of going off. I mean, yeah, it will go off, eventually.

 

Bio is just too squishy for me. Try Stone for a happy medium. Not nearly as squish and a nice damage boost. Of course not the same Bio times though but at some point we need to consider if we are going to play it or just pew pew at a pylon with it.

As I have been leveling my own claws Bio, this has been my feeling. Stone does seem like a nice medium, but than I think…. Why pick it over Shield on a scrapper? Shield seems to have as good of defense/resists, better DDR and brings a lot of damage with AAO. I might be missing something.

Sovera

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19 minutes ago, StriderIV said:

As I have been leveling my own claws Bio, this has been my feeling. Stone does seem like a nice medium, but than I think…. Why pick it over Shield on a scrapper? Shield seems to have as good of defense/resists, better DDR and brings a lot of damage with AAO. I might be missing something.

 

Better regen, better endurance, better damage (AAO's worth goes down as enemies die and the first AoEs ensure this). But no agro aura automatically puts it behind Shield. Still fine if playing in a team since -someone- will be a Brute or a Tanker.

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6 minutes ago, Sovera said:

 

Better regen, better endurance, better damage (AAO's worth goes down as enemies die and the first AoEs ensure this). But no agro aura automatically puts it behind Shield. Still fine if playing in a team since -someone- will be a Brute or a Tanker.

Fair points. Is not having an aggro aura a reason why you’d prefer Stone on a Brute or Tanker compared to a Scrapper? I guess that really only comes into play if you’re soloing.

Bill Z Bubba

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29 minutes ago, StriderIV said:

Stone does seem like a nice medium, but than I think…. Why pick it over Shield on a scrapper?

 

Cuz shield locks you out of claws and dual blades. 😞

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Cuz shield locks you out of claws and dual blades. 😞

Great point. Looks like if I ever run a stone scrapper, I’ll go with one of those sets haha

Sovera

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Rebuilt my Fire/EM Tanker when I realized I could have a rotation without T1 or T2. Unfortunately it has a bit of a gap before Burn is back (about half a second?). Regardless it's not too bad considering it is done with raw power and no -res are involved.

 

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Rotation is Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Transfer, Burn, Bone Smasher. Repeat.

 

Degenerative 25% chance for -HP, Assault unclicked, Musculature 45%.

 

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Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blazing Aura -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(42)
Level 1: Barrage -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Healing Flames -- Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(A), Prv-Absorb%(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(11), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(13), Prv-Heal(13)
Level 4: Bone Smasher -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(21), TchofDth-Dam%(21)
Level 6: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(23)
Level 8: Fire Shield -- TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(25), TtnCtn-ResDam(25), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 10: Consume -- SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(A), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(29), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(29), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(31), SynSck-EndMod(31), SynSck-Dam/Rech(31)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(33), TtnCtn-ResDam(33), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), StdPrt-ResKB(45)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 16: Whirling Hands -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-%Dam(23), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(36)
Level 18: Burn -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Acc/Rchg(37), Arm-Dam%(39), Erd-%Dam(39)
Level 20: Total Focus -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40), GldStr-%Dam(42)
Level 22: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Evasive Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 28: Build Up -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(43), RechRdx-I(43), GssSynFr--Build%(50)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Focused Accuracy -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-Pcptn(45), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 38: Energy Transfer -- HO:Nucle(A), Hct-Dmg(46), GldStr-%Dam(46), Mk'Bit-Dam%(48), TchofDth-Dam%(48), Hct-Dam%(48)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 44: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A)
Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(47), Rct-Def/EndRdx(49)
Level 49: Temperature Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17)
Level 1: Energy Focus
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 22: Afterburner
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Haven't run the numbers, but unless your bonesmasher has half the proc rate of your Energy transfer, shouldn't you reverse the slotting of those two?  Give all those procs two chances to fire per rotation.

 

Edit: Ah, you probably need the recharge in bone smasher to keep the chain hapless, hasn't really seen that it's back up with just a TF between uses.

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5 hours ago, aethereal said:

Haven't run the numbers, but unless your bonesmasher has half the proc rate of your Energy transfer, shouldn't you reverse the slotting of those two?  Give all those procs two chances to fire per rotation.

 

Edit: Ah, you probably need the recharge in bone smasher to keep the chain hapless, hasn't really seen that it's back up with just a TF between uses.

 

ET requires no recharge since it comes after TF, and requires no endurance reduction since it's free.

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