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People claiming that certain AT’s/sets were/are somehow unplayable as a result of squishiness (not referring to this in particular - past convos ring a bell too) really does nothing but raise the eyebrows of those of us who have been playing them just fine all along.

I didn’t ask him to verify that mental was popular. I asked him to verify that blasters were otherwise unpopular. Which they weren’t unless someone has data?

Can you support this statement with data? It seems contrary to the reality I remember.

Unfortunately it’s a minority opinion.

Definitely just your opinion 🙂 In some parts of the game this is just City of Blasters now. Everlasting tourney on Saturday I’m looking at you.

There seem to be a few posters that think that if their own personal design preference is not followed exactly, that no player feedback was ever requested or listened to.

Can you elaborate on what you know?

I would assume it might have more to do with how insanely powerful the recov/absorb toggles are, AoE controls being better than controller/dominator versions in some ways, how widely tactical arrow is talked about like it's trick arrow but better, etc. Blasters are in an insanely good place and I can't imagine them being on the "needing buffs" end of the balance spectrum.

Any chance you can post the rankings by points so we know how us losers did relatively speaking?

I think we see formats that involve elimination more often than not. After reading the rules, I see it’ll be interesting getting to fight and lose 5 whole matches. Will need aloe after all that.

Admittedly I don’t need super high quality PvP right now. I used to duel Deathvirus a lot and it tends to just make me want training wheels after I’m out of greens in 5 minutes.

Yeah i13 has to be the #1 culprit. I remember being able to find a fair amount of PvP on Triumph of all places before that. Afterwards it become pretty exclusive to Freedom, which ultimately morphed into Indomitable.

I want what’s currently just impossible per macskull. Just an ounce of PvP on other servers (think the everlasting event coming up is a good sign but it’ll probably be overrun by the same indom folks anyway). For a singular discord server to stop being cited as the one true gate to PvP enlightenment. Other zones being used wouldn’t hurt. The problem with this is (1) it’s nigh impossible due to population issues and (2) due to the current community unfortunately having to accept (1) without question, no one is even bothering to try. I agree with PvP’ers that (1) they aren’t all toxic and (2) other games have toxic players too. Where my issue is is that due to these problems, in this game exclusively, our current choice is to either engage in one very specific way with a pre determined set of people or to not engage at all. Not trying to be impossible, but the state of things is just that.

It is a natural result of real issues, yes, but doesn’t change the fact that it’s a problem. On live I would say it was wayyy better pre-i13. Post i13 it wasn’t much better than this though.

I just want PvP decentralized. No other PvP game I’ve ever played forces every participant into a singular community if they want any chance of a reasonable amount of action.

Not your job, no. Just asking you to imagine that maybe it’s not *entirely* the “victim” who’s to blame across the board. I don’t care much any more about the shit talking because I’m now better at just ignoring it. Though a community that typically acts like using one central voice chat server is all but mandatory just means I’m locked out of certain PvP if I want to continue to ignore it. Which is oh well.

I know I’m not necessarily “these people” because I actually do PvP some (just refuse to do the discord version most of the time). But yes I find PvP far more accessible in social terms in every other MMO I’ve played even if I like the *engine* for this one the best.

As someone who is on your side in this argument but who also has numerous negative childhood memories from live, I’d like to just gently suggest you could frame this more considerately.

I find it hilarious how absurdly specific set name proposals can be. Why don’t we make a set literally called “The Balrog’s Whip From Lord Of The Rings” while we’re at it.

I’m going to be tremendously unpopular here and say that I think that simply reversing the ET nerf would be a lazy and improper solution. The original change was made for a reason. Maybe an animation in the middle of now and then would be ok though. But even then ET is not an underperformer itself right now, so I would prefer to just make total focus and whirling hands better instead.

Will try to show up if not doing anything irl at the time. Will likely get annihilated.

Yeah I’d be kind of ok with antidote or alkaloid being TAoE but not PBAoE. The latter sounds overpowered. Other than that, splash radiuses could go up a hair. Overall though poison is a great set and some people just need to learn to use debuffs and CC effectively as opposed to being completely crippled on every toon without a self heal and defense buffs.

Absolutely agreed. I recall a lot of arguments this summer in which some players were erroneously claiming a three word political activism slogan was not political at all. The GM’s shouldn’t be leaving room here for players to get away with these discussions by making nonsensical subjective arguments to subvert the rules.

Honestly there’s no such thing anymore as a build that is totally doomed to squishiness. You can still be squishy, but you’d have to get there by choice - intentionally leaving no room for defenses in your pool/IO choices, etc because you wanted more recharge or procs or RP power choices that badly. There are builds that are perhaps doomed to be unable to both quickly AND safely solo all +4x8 content, but that’s not the same thing. Also, implying that debuffs and controls/mezzes/mitigation are not a form of self defenses is either disingenuous or a sign someone’s not using the tools at their disposal.

If us having zero trouble using poison effectively means we need our heads examined, so be it. Have you considered tactics such as (1) defense pools and set bonuses, (2) mezzing the mezzers, (3) using inspirations, etc.?