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Two solutions I use when on speed runs that limit meaningful fights: (1) get to the mob earlier or (2) go fight an additional mob yourself. On ITF mission one I just stealth to the back sybil room so I can have some fun while the others speed through the first several sybils.

Ok so you’re focused on not being needed. Considering 99.99% (leaving some exceptions on the table like maybe a hami tanker) of players are not specifically needed and have not been for at least 10 years now, this is something I have simply come to accept. Considering the mobs are dying at a pleasing pace, I’m not sure there’s a lot to complain about. One thing’s for sure though, I certainly wouldn’t consider your character obsolete since defining obsolete as not being absolutely essential to the team’s success would render all characters in the game obsolete, kind of defeating the point of talking about obsolescence in the first place.

That doesn’t tell me why you think such a thing. How are you defining power gamer vs casual?

Ah, well that’s not how I was thinking of obsolescence. The vast majority of teams don’t *need* any one player in particular because they are competent players in an easy game. However, that is not the same as not contributing at all, which is what I thought you were saying was happening. In other words, not being needed and not being able to contribute are not the same thing. The former is not only forgivable but imminently reasonable. The latter you have zero excuse beyond self-gimping at vet level 100.

It’s good not to assign value to fallacious reasoning anywhere and everywhere sorry.

You’ve made a similar cryptic statement before. Can you please define your terms like casual players vs powergamers so we understand this position?

Haha, people giving opinions on a forum. What a joke. 🙄

If you so desperately want to avoid having to consider positioning, 95+% of the remaining power sets are there waiting for you Hops 🙂

Right, I was just saying there is no alternative/opportunity cost to incarnates if you have the materials, whereas there are reasonable alternatives to +recharge (procs, defense, etc)...

Yeah sure but I think those are apples and oranges. It costs nothing but the incarnate materials you will have gained by default to craft incarnates at vet level 100. Whereas IO’s have real opportunity costs. If I’ve ever fallen short of your 87.5% +recharge benchmark, I promise you I did it for teh procs.

Yeah no if people can’t agree to abide by basic established principles of logic, communication is pretty useless and we should probably just delete this forum.

Cmon we were all 12 once

If you are vet level 100 without t4 incarnates, please put my vote down for that counts as a conscious decision to self gimp.

Get power boost and soft cap all defenses to avoid most mezzes and reduce detoggling.

Let’s not forget the finger gun amidst all this talk of alternative animations.

And that would put the error on the player’s end IMO 🙂

Sure you can make a bad build, but even an unslotted petless MM at vet level 100 would be contributing substantially by means of t4 ageless and judgement alone.

I flat out reject the possibility that a Vet level 100 *anything* is turning out obsolete without the error being on the individual player’s end. That’s absurd.

I’m afraid you didn’t answer the question 🙂

Why don’t you volunteer your expertise to the devs since you know exactly what to do...?

Are you acknowledging that this request is only for tri-form kheldians then? If not, no logical reason to bring up the outlier. Also, both my khelds are all human but.. well-played tri formers don’t seriously carry a lot of toggles do they? That sounds like awful playing to me.

The guys in Dragon Ball Z sometimes take several minutes to retoggle. Count yourselves lucky.

And on that note I sure don’t like having to make money to pay for things, where is my 2 billion inf single button power?

I think powers that logically and thematically KB should continue to do so unless the player so desires to slot a KB->KD IO for reasons of their own 🙂

You’re good man. I don’t really appreciate the type of thinking buried in the very last bit because it insinuates motive (“opposed to progress”), but I do understand why you made the post in the first place out of frustration that people seem to be writing off ideas you like a little too quickly.