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You've nerfed yourself, in the income potential category...and I'm not talking about intentionally buying recipes and components to craft first, then convert. There are more than enough drops in farming to use the same strategies and 5 min. post-farming can add significantly to your daily cash haul. Yes, you may have to buy a rare or two, now and then, but when you can spend $5-600K on components and converters, to turn recipes that drop into $tens of millions, why not?

I have a WP/Fiery Melee tanker that I love. He's VL 124. Can main tank 99% of the game's (non-HM) content. The lack of DDR makes him *significantly* less durable than my Inv builds, when facing debuffers. When the $hit is gonna hit the fan, I always reach for Inv (Shield is next). YMMV and I openly admit to being an Inv fanboy (just look at my toon list)...

Here's a (fairly) recent conversation about Ice Armor. Was pre-issue 5, but the def and res numbers are still valid. To answer your specific questions, I did quite the opposite. A single damage proc in Chilling Embrace and 6-slotted LotG in EA, for the added def. After changes driven by the suggestions in the thread above, wound up with these (no ATO, no Incarnate) numbers:

Sounds like Big Gotter's "Big Mobs"...ends with the two hostages and "I like big mobs", right? 😆

Or get an untouchable like Carnies, which grants Forge, to add to your own damage.

Not new, but still shiny. The only adjustment, for this patch, was to be judicious about the extra ranged attacks that come from engaging more than the aggro cap (as they will not follow but still fire away). I present: FRMRBRWN | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1842;777;1554;HEX;| |78DA75944B4F135114C7FF6D0710688502E58D4095F2B2A50534F11515B1A801432| |0D125A938E2244D216D4170EF5E01C3C60728E81790878F444D5C18C4C7D2F81D50| |176E5C987A9833476E6B3AC9647EF7BCEEB9E79E3903D3BDCE8F5BFDA7602B3C138| |D2412233DF1C9A49E373C6AE8B1511DF4B8C24303433D43972F364C750582792429| |316D4606F4A8AE0786278C989EA86451AF7E4D8F25F440D8D0E33323A727E311380| |7C7C7A3817E3D4276632E731136C6AE27695560AE862774FDAADBC4F3B12923615C| |31A24672C67D76C2180D0CCEC469A3482249F12A69EB767ADFFBA03EA91CE0B6068| |434ECC71D8603981598179863F0E12EC3EA8EB36D378C03E8B6999ABD080A743134| |A082A04EC3A64FF5414AB3E1B8DD34B1E388C051060DC718727182619D5C1C8AB7D| |D817314AD79C7A48FC1890B0CE554E91C253DE4C0C3C96C510E796A0E790870FC3D| |E810083214C02F1062A820D77CC57B6761254E9A4275C742DC628D83342EB5542E7| |43A4C4DB194AA588A572635A3B450A438694572807D286668C61F98656DC56F8636| |94B16A8DD66EC53BC78D45DEB2044B028F18CAF198A112CB022B0C2FC8B774F7CA5| |2F652CCDBAD3C67195A31C7E0A5843DCA96368FD96EE606167CA2D257A85955608A| |358D9811B829700356574E33B4E12467F599C254A937582561AAC5A95AE2F9249E4| |FC2BCA44F8DDAFF35B8C72D5D8BFB020F34ABD40F0516352B8925860F94449D12C6| |5627A76C15D8A04FBD725C7BBD5C77835C7703420CAFC8C0AB86F34A946681AF74F| |A26B5FD9BF0544C56183AF084E1971368516D5BF096AEA954831F6F184278CDF0CD| |C183E15F41DAF18CCF7810AB026B02EB0C7E6C083C67F8420509A8B71240B7DDCAE| |A90401743089D0287195CD43D41F5BF0A4ABB87B5F44193AAD5D20798294CA5D09F| |61486F2E071FD4D2C70E2D6AB84EDB05A4B1A569FCACF9FEBFA685353F3234761B2| |E59FF2C1A1D56CF6E3BCC31F433C39678817372CA0FD496E538C12CF25016795716| |797716797E71FA344DF5D19F1E520BBDECCD106C665A78CA32040B9916EFDAD2E76| |5EA2F4DC1E5CE| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

From my experience, for a non all-tank team, yes. Just no way to sufficiently armor support toons, to survive 3* and 4* runs, without it. Did we really need it, last night? Probably not, but it made segments go more quickly (we could herd more mobs, safely). I will say that there was no coordination, because it wasn't really needed, on when they were up. I spammed Ageless, when I remembered, but usually didn't notice until someone's blue bar was down. Barrier was up less than 25% of the time, I estimate, as well. I don't think an all-tank team would have enough debuffs for a 4* run, much less the survivability, without Barrier and Ageless. No matter how sturdy a build, without support, tanks are squishy in 4* content.

Necro/Dark, ftw! Classic (see sig)

Had a blast on a 1* Hard Mode ITF, with eight tanks, a couple were 50 but not incarnated. Several were also first timers for HM content. 1:47 and a few deaths (all told we had only one or two with Barrier and I brought Ageless DDR), but a great time was had by all. See you all, next week.

Elec/Elec tank. End drain resist, for those damned witches...

Great time on Torch, last night. Two teams: Team 1 ran Sarah Moore with eight. I had the honor of leading Team 2, a six-tank Synapse team (which finished in 1:07 btw) and we were few, but mighty. CK didn't stand a chance. We even had him down before @ColTech94 made it to the back of the map 😆. If @Warboss were posting, he'd also thank @wittylibrarian for running the Sarah Moore TF. Big thanks to Team 1 for coming to Skyway and helping vanquish Babbage. We would have done it (with enough daggers) but would have taken quite a bit longer. Hope to see everyone again on Everlasting, next Tuesday!

Classic Inv/SS. Add Sorcery Pool for the "mysticism", which includes flight... and Energy Mastery Epic for Laser Beam Eyes

Great fun was had by all, on the TinPex team (except the new to TT player who disconnected). Thanks to @ColTech94, who actually led Apex, after winding up with the star (LFG port glitch) and led with grace, even while face-planted 😆. Ronin took back the star for Tin Mage. Bit of a grind at +4, but we still finished both in less than an hour, fighting through. Thanks to @Warboss for running the end-of-event missions, where we got three Praetorian AVs under our belts, as well. See you all next week on Torch!

During the "Get the Ultrascope" radio mission: [NPC] Archon Foss: This really puts a damper on my evil buzz.

v3.4.6

Welcome, enjoy 😁

Resist cap means you still take 10% of the total (that gets through your defenses) damage. Any reduction in that is a plus. Since DN reduces to hit *and* damage, I'd say yes, beneficial even for a tanker (and teammates). My favorite Inv tank uses Pyre Mastery. Char gets the chance for +absorb proc (Entomb) and Melt Armor is a fantastic AOE debuff (-def and -res). Diamagnetic (Core) is the Interface incarnate of choice, as well.

Here's the complete export. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! ZZAAPPP_v3.0: Level 50 Mutation Brute Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Charged Brawl (A) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (3) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (7) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage Level 1: Charged Armor (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (7) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (9) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (11) Aegis - Resistance (11) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge Level 2: Havoc Punch (A) Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus (15) Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (17) Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (19) Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge (19) Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage Level 4: Jacobs Ladder (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (23) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (23) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (25) Obliteration - Damage Level 6: Lightning Field (A) Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End (25) Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (27) Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (27) Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (29) Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage (29) Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime Level 8: Conductive Shield (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (31) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (31) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance Level 10: Static Shield (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (33) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime Level 12: Thunder Strike (A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (36) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range (36) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance (36) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun (37) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown (37) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge Level 14: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 16: Grounded (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 18: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge Level 20: Chain Induction (A) Pounding Slugfest - Disorient Bonus (40) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Recharge (40) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Endurance (42) Pounding Slugfest - Accuracy/Damage Level 22: Kick (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 24: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 26: Lightning Reflexes (A) Run Speed IO Level 28: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Energize (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (45) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (45) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (45) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal Level 32: Lightning Rod (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (46) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (48) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (48) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 35: Power Sink (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 38: Power Surge (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 41: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (48) Recharge Reduction IO Level 44: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (50) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 47: Focused Accuracy (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 49: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1738;748;1496;HEX;| |78DA6594DB4E13511486FF69070A6D11B04041400E22472905F45E1488024D9A981| |82D60D3E0884D6A4BDA82F200BE80375E7925477D011FC04B7D031335DE78964445| |8DC2B8BAD72CBA29934CE6DBEBF0EFB5D6CCECC8BD71FFCB1733E761F82EA612B95| |CFC4276396F554496F3897C3293065DFE586C6C2C1A8DC6574643610F195A544C3C| |62A52C2B3491B216F2D9E44222C506C7396EDDB2D2B9A23B3E96BD93C9C21FCD645| |2A1192BB1944C2F56A9C56472F1769E565EB5BAB26459377DEC48153C4D134BC985| |D044DACA2EAEC623895CDECAAE72918D544A37DD7B852261C0B9EC32204ECF1E132| |EDC10986730312730CB508E18C3E3432A4AE69CE18484192A302C304A306CC28BB3| |02230CFB4A45ABC6C0BC5B798E618EA106B3023186E3B82E708DC1A65CB72EE32EA| |C0B9E3AD82E07F6191AB027F08FA1117F19D628B7CCD064CAE0339D102FC309540A| |5430B4A05CC0C3B04EB91E7D361EFCA16A5A4D9CC42F81DF02BB5C683B7E0AFC60D| |8A0DC4A4DC6AC144FBB9221E890A40EA5A7C0D12BB4E18356840F770DB5E529AC08| |2C0BE419BAF08E5BE8428E2D41FA84ABB4225085573CAC4D5A56EB9E6A0439A7F02| |26AF531D662DBE5C86E3074634D6053608BA107EB0C6E5208682FD51DC034D4063D| |9812B8CCD0874B0C2EAAB75EDB1BF5B8EFC89127A8D5EB0ECA38FB648A7D32D77E1| |9E7164536E94D366110CA63925CB3E67135D3BE4E728D408061BB509B3E90567C61| |FD33F82CF049E023C3203E08BC67A09F036DFA40DAA4B741BCE59021BC1678C3F08| |4223B8BBFAA4D8B01EEE0293D4E6B5F082D4638A7937AEBD57A337A256748A08142| |06F4F607A4FD614CBB1DF8CEE0AD0542FA4621FA4C95C74F9EB03618238C872E27F| |901C3A479F8A0B15B4CE897AD8CB68D99A3F67296889ABA02790C34F3FE5FBC87C5| |E9765EEFD7A39E5EF67C539E62CDB44707F7E9C755C381293EF9764A6289764DE77| |8DB6178DE4F3F98569C5D5F0775701E189ED1EB1BA683E9C06097463C0AA888A261| |3A50AA516AF80F0CFBD906| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

No granite needed. My titular toon. Tank version, but you can just swap the powers. Kept Granite as a purist, but rarely (if ever) use/need it. https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1544&c=729&a=1458&f=HEX&dc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ere are the numbers. No Granite. No ATOs, no buffs, no Incarnates, no procs. Little heavy on the end usage, but easily doable.

Pyre Mastery also includes Melt Armor, which is a great -Res/-Def AOE debuff, for any archetype. Arctic Mastery does give -rech/-spd, but I'll take Melt Armor, every time.

#1, my namesake/titular toon. First ever 50 tank on Live (in 2004). Stone Armor/Super Strength. First toon I remade on HC. Foot Stomp never gets old. #2, Nosfera-too. First ever 50 on Live (in 2004). Kinetics/Dark Defender. Second toon I remade on HC. Still hella fun. All other "mains" are in the sig. I tank alot, but also enjoy support. Far and away the most durable and most played (VL 500-ish) is NUTCRCKR.

Add me to that list. Discovered that game in 1983, as a Freshman in college. I still have all of it, in a box... 😆

Cheap, Fast, Durable. Pick two.

Thanks again Ronin. We had seven for Posi 1 and six for Posi 2 and loads and loads of fun. See you all, next week on Excel!

Because S.Entomb includes the chance for +absorb proc...