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The best set is the one you enjoy playing the most. Numerically, DM is a horrible set. Is it fun as all get out to me? You betcha. I love me some DM.

I'm not contributing. I just want to say I really love this combo. Done EM with Bio, SD, and EA too. Slap a Achille's in Beta Decay and a FOTG in Rad Therapy? Life is good. I love the fact you can slot Rad Therapy to not just do -HP/s on a target, you can hit them with -RES too. And use it to slap a mob with some nasty AOE early on. And since it's base recharge is so long, the procs all have a really high chance of almost always going off.

As fun as it is to do this sometimes, it's why I am a Claws > other sets kind of guy. I call it "corpse blasting". Same thing.

Oh, that's definitely not what I'm trying to convey. I've actually put a lot of thought in to this. I suspect why some of the more heavy S/L damage sets run away in DPS is because of the fact they can slap procs in them with varying damage types. I haven't found sets like DM or EM to benefit much from procs, whereas sets like Claws and Kat just become ridiculous monsters. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vd4ZZd1jfhOzdZZkGxC9O0NN5G0T1EdWPu_XRrV6s0U/edit#gid=905771942 Not sure who slapped this together or where I found it. It is useful though.

You'd be surprised. Then again, a lot of people think regen is good and that DM is top tier DPS.

wtf is a *.mbd file? So, you can set the enemy level up to +4 in mid's. I try to aim for about 95% chance to hit, so I set it to +3 (since my goal is to play 50+1 at a minimum). That normally means around 39% global acc and a kismet, or the 7.5% to-hit bonus if in Offensive with a Bio Armor character. The -DEF from beta decay helps out MASSIVELY since -DEF is, unless I understood it incorrectly, a 1:1 to basically give you a better chance to hit. So if a target is taking the full -DEF from BD that's pretty much another 15% chance to-hit. That's pretty huge. This is for FM/RAD. As you can see, I've just got it set to +3 which is what I normally will square off against. Tohit is definitely more valuable than ACC, I forget the exact ratio off the top of my head. Basically, you can't hit, you can't crit. Until you hit the global ACC you need, set bonuses like the 9% in Oblit, or 15% in the 3pc of ATO2, are extremely valuable. Off the top of my head, Adjusted Targeting is another really good 5pc that gives recharge and 9% ACC on the way to it. I know with the way I like to build Rad Armor, I try to 3 slot Beta Decay. One -RES proc and two -TOHIT debuff IOs that are +5ed. *I totally forgot Fire Sword also does -DEF now. I know you want to slap an -RES proc in that for sure.

Ummm....ok. Not sure if you're laughing cause you think this is absurd. But factually, EM is definitely not the best at ST for scrappers (is it REALLY good in that department, most definitely yes). There has been data collected about this from MULTIPLE sources, including one in this thread. And myself. Ston is one of the few people I will listen to when it comes to dealing DPS in this game. I know that they and I can just look at a number, the AT and combo, and make some real fast guesses how it was built. What buffs they used. If it's an average or a best run. Etc. So yea. EM is not the best at ST. But it's fun and really good at it.

ATO1 (Scrapper Strike): Well, the ATO1 is a passive global and the 5pc for that set is something I like, a lot. As much as I love the Oblit set, to get what I mostly want out of a set, it only costs 5 instead of 6 slots. I can get more damage out of the other attacks and I really want the 5pc Bonus and everything that comes with it. Recharge and S/L? Yes please! And I personally don't value AOE as crazy much as some folks, so i'm not likely to proc bomb attacks normally for AOE, and I get the ATO1 proc with all that too..FSS is just a natural fit for me. I've done FM/SD and FM/BIO. It goes there on both and its a great spot for how I build. Now getting silly and proc bombing powers NOT meant to murder a room...I just find hilarious. I've been playing this game since launch and I've never seen an AOE situation shut down a team. I've seen a single high HP target do it..a LOT. Ground Zero: The Obliteration set is just amazing to me. And Ground Zero was an easy fit there. Even on a very high recharge build, GZ isn't up a crazy amount to me, but those set bonuses from Oblit are (almost) always there. It IS funny getting the Healing badges on accident as a scrapper cause of this power. But, if I have to NOT take a power in Rad Armor, this is always it. I'm hoping this statement helps you know how I value things. Rad Therapy: Actually, there is a mechanical reason I do this, on top of the fact it can be a VERY exemp friendly AOE when low level. You can slap a PVP -RES in it. And Rad Therapy has a pretty high base recharge. So that proc has a good chance to go off every time you use it. Combined with the fact Rad Therapy does a...-150% regen? You can really put some hurt on a hard target. And since the rest of Rad Therapy is bombed out, whatever that target is will also take some damage. I'd be shocked if Fire/Rad isn't one of the fastest high hp killers in the game. Fire/Bio low minutes. Fire/SD mid minute. And Rad is more DPS as a secondary than shield. You've got a very amazing pairing. Also, TAKE MELTDOWN.

Look at it in a different way. Build Up's duration is 10s for 100% dmg. Meltdown is 41 % for a 60s duration. You might get four BUs in a minute with a VERY high recharge build. That's still really good. I think that's roughly 80% boost for the minute assuming BU is used on cooldown? Now add the DMG buff from Meltdown. That goes up to 122% for the minute. That's...a lot. That will more than double all your damage for a minute. Whereas if you only use BU you are only adding about 80% to all you damage for a minute. That and Meltdown does other really great things. But if you're really shifting your mindset to the damage side you can add another 10% running assault. And another building Assault Hybrid. It's PASSIVE boost is 10% more damage. So you can be cranking out roughly 142% damage (not counting procs) when Meltdown is active. Take Meltdown. Also, lol. @InvaderStych said the same thing just different.

Meltdown is a MUST have. I've done Rad Armor a LOT. From a damage perspective, you want Meltdown up as often as possible. It gives a really good % boost when active. @InvaderStych is 1000% right with they they say about it. Here's a first pass. Hopefully you get some ideas. Oh, Rad Therapy has a 3.0 multiplier for ACC instead of the more common 1.0 for stuff. And it being proc bombed like that is actually some really good AOE, especially early on if you Cat the non-PVP/VRare procs. Also, this is defense soft cap assuming your target gets all of the -TOHIT debuff in Beta Decay. This WILL dump out DPS.

Scrapper. Not sure of any cons compared to how it plays vs other ATs. Tanker gets more AOE in terms of damage. Other than that, it is a VERY large DPS difference. Put the ATO2 in ET. It statistically is better there. Don't worry about HP doing ET a lot. Yes, don't forget about it, but it isn't a factor. The AOE on EM isn't horrible, but it isn't good. The AOE isn't why someone grows to love the set. For scrappers, ET doesn't crit. It instantly refreshes.

I was one of those guys. I still remember it starting out as a competition and (thank deity) it evolved to a collection of data. There were definitely a noticeable few that treated it like a competition (the guy that had the best melee pylon time with a SS/FIRE brute for example....refused to share his build). The current iteration of that thread is REALLY nice IMO. It feels like a sharing of data. blueruckus still stands out to me pre-shutdown days as one of those people. blue had a low 50s pylon time. That person had zero issue sharing the build they were using (VEAT crabstermind btw). blue knew it didn't matter if the build was copied slot for slot, if the player was boo-boo it didn't matter. @nihilii reminded me of that with his comment. Claws in it's spot for the data collection here doesn't surprise me one bit. I did do a double-take at the Savage Melee thing. I've only played the set at 50 for a few hours. I honestly forget the set exists most of the time.

As someone who has a DM/BIO/SOUL that does more AOE than most AT combos known for AOE, I feel pretty confident saying that Shadow Maul is very skippable (I'll put 1B inf on that). I've tried putting the ATO2 proc in Midnight Grasp but holy cow. MG has a very long animation time and the ATO2 proc,, if it goes off there, is activated way to soon (ATBE (AttackTimeBeforeEffect)) in the attacks animation to get real benefit from it. ArcanaTime is 2.244s and the proc is activated .533s in to the attack. So now you have (2.244-.533=1.711...3.25-1.711=1.539) 1.539 of use from the proc. Now, look at putting it in Siphon Life. It has a AT of 2.112s and a ATBE .833s. When it goes off here you will have 1.971s of the proc to use. In the game of milliseconds this is a massive deal. I definitely agree with @Uun about taking both Shadow Punch and Smite may be a bit superfluous. I'm a Smite person myself. Proc bomb Touch of Fear. Slot Soul Drain (I like to slap the ATO1 set here) and Dark Consumption for damage (Obliteration set is my fav here). Grats on the pairing. DM/ENA sounds legit. Maybe you can get some ideas from this: https://cod.uberguy.net/html/powerset.html?pset=scrapper_melee.dark_melee&at=scrapper

True true. The best DPS rotation doesn't use a combo. Leveling up? I remember the KD combo being useful (they can't hit you if on their butt). Just remember 1k Cuts will root you until the animation is complete (holy crap it's long) so be ready to die alot during it's animation. I don't think highly of the attack and don't take it. Sweeping Strike is also a cone and its vital for ST DPS also.

I rolled a Ice/FA/Caltrops scrapper on Brainstorm and yea...it AOEs pretty well. I didn't test the ST, but I'm guessing it's pretty LOL with /FA and FE anyways.

Ice/Fire or Fire/ice (melee...not sure how the ranged options are for that...never done them) are a really good pairing from experience. I used to PL (before sets) with a Fire/Ice tanker and it was dumb effective. Ice/Fire scrapper seems like a really good way to alleviate the runner problem that comes with FA on scraps not having a taunt aura. Ice patch, caltrops, BURN BABY BURN

Ice Patch is a wildly underrated tool. Caltrops is a really smart pairing with it. Noice.

Drop Shadow Maul. It's garbage. Proc bombing Touch of Fear, slotting Dark Consumption and Soul Drain for damage, and taking Dark Obliteration are going to help IMMENSELY for AOE. This has no incarnates, is soft cappped, and has perma hasten. Maybe you can get some ideas.

Without the KB/KD proc? It's up to you. With that proc? Must have. The attack is used in my ST rotation. It's that good.

Don't dismiss TW. It's like if SS ripped up a post and started swinging it around.

This one caught me off guard. Going to do a lot more runs to see if this was more legit or if I was measuring wrong. *Just did 4 more runs. It's a better average now. Scrapper TW/ENA 1:32 (Degen/RoF/MA/Enflame/Proc Build) Melt Armor and Enflame (lasts 60s) are what carry this the most IMO. Enflame also has a decent tick rate and is an AOE. Enflame is underrated and I'm mad I didn't take it seriously sooner. Chain: BM RA FT AoD RA FT AoD RA RoF CB RA FT AoD RA RoF normally to BM If the FF Recharge Procs in FT or AoD don't go off during a BM chain then it looks like: RA FT AoD RA FT WS AoD The runs where the procs DIDN'T go off at all I got up to 1:40. The runs they went off EVERY BM chain got all the way down to 1:20.

GOLD FRICKIN' STAR The limit is 4x btw for those wondering.

If anyone tries to argue tankers aren't OP they are wrong and they're opinion is wrong. Average of 5+ runs. Hybrid off. Tanker ELA/TW 3:00 (Degen/RoF/MA)

MA/RAD/MU Scrapper 1:40 Average, Hybrid Off Had a streak of crappy RNG. That average can be lower, but whatever. MA is good. EC - Snipe - CaK - EC - SC - CaK - SC Repeat. Meltdown, BU, and Rad Therapy on cooldown. Does surprisingly good AOE. EC - Dragon Tail is pretty good AOE DPS. Either 33% or 83% increased chance to crit. Combined with procced Rad Therapy and Ground Zero this build drops whole packs decently well.

BS/BIO/BLAZE Average (10+ Runs), Degen, Musc, Hybrid Off 1:19 Headsplitter - Hack - Disembowel - (if force feedback proc did NOT go off) Ring of Fire I'm more apt to do this with a build that I don't *feel* like it needs Shadow Meld. I'll toy with a RoF build for my BS/SD. Granted, off the top of my head, I fear I'd have to drop Super Jump to do it. *Nope. Not doing it.