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I have a /Martial Combat Blaster, but I haven't played it very much (it was fun for what I was doing, at low levels).

IMO, the most important powers for "Blapping" ("Jousting" is IMO from another era of the game when characters could expect to have base 0% defenses (*1) across almost all content) are: The powers in the secondary (as mentioned by @Frozen Burn) A "teleport into/out of combat power" For the latter, I prefer Combat Teleport, but other powers can do in a pinch (if toggled on), like Speed of Sound, Mystic Flight... The three macros/bins I try to have on "Blappers" are (shown for Combat Teleport, pick your own macro image to flavor): /bind shift+lbutton "powexec_name Combat Teleport" This is a mousebind used to help move me around maps/rooms... often when I am 'stuck' somewhere or just want to get around some sort of obstacle/geometry. /macro_image "DevouringEarthSeed_Hematic_Seedbuff" "BAMF" "powexec_location target Combat Teleport" This is used to appear adjacent to a target, for melee or PBAoE. /macro_image "DevouringEarthSeed_Hematic_seedblood" "Back" "powexec_location Back:25 Combat Teleport" This is used to move back from a cluster, usually to cast a cone attack. My Blapping is to usually open with (ranged) AoE, and then directly engage clumps of survivors and/or hard targets. I don't rely on single-target controls for Blapping. Of the Blasters with which I have played a LOT of (a wide variety of content) I can offer these opinions on the secondaries: Atomic: The "Blappiest" of the ones I've played, all powers in the secondary taken except for Electron Shackles and Positron Cell. Fire: Something of a classic, but I have this character built less like a Blapper and play it more like it can wade in when necessary. Time: As used on my character, this is NOT a Blapper. I like the secondary, but it feels (to me) much less Blappy. (*1) Re; Jousting. Not only is it easy to get IOs that boost global defenses, but the game has a large number of available "boosts", especially for low level characters. IMO the actual content (and debt limits!) make it less likely that a no-extra-defenses character is going to be stuck with something like a "Hunt dozens of +3 level baddies in a Hazard Zone" mission. Mid and late game solo players are likely to face single enemies that simply will not melt to a couple of button clicks, but I always associate 'jousting' as a survival mechanism for taking on large, +level spawns without defenses.

I agree that it is easier (and more straightforward) to craft/acquire Invention pieces. I disagree that this is somehow "breaking the game". I'm sure we can dig up a thread that makes the argument that Prismatic Aether Particles have "broken the game" where the game is "costume design." Oh there it is.

With the realization that (with accolades) my Beam/Energy Aura Sentinel was above the HP cap, I moved the 6th slot from Power Armor to Cutting Beam. This became the 6th piece of the Ragnarok set (%Knockdown) for extra Toxic/Psi/Mezz Resistance. Usually I don't sweat that specific bonus; in this case: Toxic/Psi Defenses were the weakest, and Positionals are also not good for this build The AoE of Cutting Beam is among a few reasons why using a %damage piece wouldn't help in that power With the power choices... I didn't have another place where I could get a set bonus that I felt would make as much impact. For the last point, the two other options I had considered with that Enhancement slot: Add it to a travel power, for the Winter's Gift Slow Resist (to go from 20% to 40%) Add it to Health, for the Numina's 10% Recovery/20% Regeneration. Add a Recharge IO piece to Overload Overcharge. If I really wanted more Regeneration, I could have 2-slotted the Numina's set with a Heal/Absorb plus the Global... for this build, in Power Armor... this is a build choice I often make with Tankers. I just wasn't feeling the need. The times when I probably could use more Regeneration are usually the times when I'd pop Overload Overcharge, and then have to watch the timers for both duration and recharge. I am having trouble seeing how boosting either of those two features would noticeably change my playstyle. There were other options of course, but I felt that these were the top contenders to the additional Toxic/Psi/Mezz resistances.

No comments to be made on the following posts, just using them to springboard: I can never say with certainty what the "M" stands for in "KM" (in the context of ITF, Yin TF, Manticore TF, whatever): "M = Many", whatever gets in the way to the objective and exit as soon as mission completes "M= Maybe", Toss some AoE and run past survivors to get to the glowie/final room. "M = Most", We can split up and even backtrack for XP or *gasp* stay past mission conclusion "M = My targets", Imma boss, auto-target through me (only once do I recall this instruction outside of Incarnate arcs) I've had leaders explicitly say that they wanted to "kill most" but would have a meltdown if a spawn that wasn't in the direct line of the objective was dragged into the fighting. I have no real preference (and if I do, it will change depending on circumstances), but if the team isn't having any trouble and folks are commenting about the XP in a positive way... the more the merrier! I like: "M = Mellow" watch how the team is doing, don't be in a hurry but don't let the missions drag painfully. (often seen on low level TFs set such that folks just can't hit enemies) I decided to spring off the ITF comments because (a) they were there, and (b) there are several maps where a LOT (possibly more than half) of the critters aren't engaged with.

I very rarely team-up when playing MMs... from memory, the only time I actually got complimented as a member of a TF was on (new) Positron 1/2: Positron 1, final mission, after someone decides to spawn the ambushes: "How are you still not dead?" (not sure if this was a compliment or side-eye) Positron 2, final mission (interior) after someone picks up that the henchmen are being sent in to the spawns to absorb the alpha strikes that the team otherwise cannot handle. I will help out with an MM when someone cries out they are having trouble with an AV. I never mind PUGing with a MM... mission entries and exits can get a little busy but that's no big deal.

I'm generally very happy with MMs; I didn't feel like cluttering the Suggestions subforum with minor annoyances that could all be in my head. Besides, we've gotten very good things on Homecoming like no-collision henchmen! I simply felt like spelling out a small number of things with MMs that grind my gears. Share your thoughts and tips for dealing with them! The delay between summoning a (set of) henchmen and the ability to cast the upgrades on them. This is most evident when in the heat of combat; I find it particularly annoying when an enemy AV/GM can hit a newly spawned henchman before I can get a resistance/defense upgrade/equipment on them! I used to try to mitigate this with specialty names of the henchmen and keybinds for targeting, but I gave those up as I couldn't recall them if I wasn't playing the MM regularly. The near-random inability for Inspirations to 'stick' to henchmen. I used to attribute this problem 100% to "not being close enough" to the henchmen, now I attribute 98% to it. Some fraction of the time when the MM clicks on an Inspiration, the insp will 'vanish' from the UI, and then re-appear (not having been used) so I think there is some server lag as well. Other times I think there is enough of a discrepancy in positioning of the henchmen between local and server that may be contributing. What is weird: I rarely have this problem with the Lore pets, it usually happens when I try to put a Red Insp on my T3. Travel paths/getting stuck/not-moving. This is a classic problem... but it is one that seems to be exaggerated with Group Fly. It is really annoying to be on a GM hunt and discover that one of the henchmen is somewhere else in the zone, chilling out. I usually just dismiss the henchmen, but will also use Assemble the Team. The 'pop' of only one henchmen, leading to its instant defeat. This one is on me, when I outrun the henchmen while traveling. Usually only one or two instantly appear by my side against a tough enemy... as a reward for their willingness to stay by the boss, they are quickly eliminated (by AoE or Bodyguard mode).

I noticed a couple of things about my build: Power Armor: The second slot of IO Health 50+5 is only providing just under 52 extra HP... and this build is already at the Max HP cap with Accolades. This means I can can do something like: use the sixth slot for a Resistance or Health mule piece opt for more/different set bonuses (e.g. Panacea's 2-piece Recovery bonus in PvE) move the slot elsewhere Power Drain: I swapped out the D-Sync (EndMod/Recharge) for an IO EndMod 50+5. I only lost about 4 seconds on the recharge. Frankly, this looks like it could be a skippable power, at least for this build. I suppose I could recommend replacing Power Drain with Hasten, move the 6th slot from Power Armor into Hasten and slot it with 2x IO RechargeTime 50+5. With the already in-build recharge, Hasten should be perma.

I know the comment was about trying to ignite Oil Slick, but I wanted to say that in my experience Whirlpool is a terrible choice of powers to insert %procs. I can see the appeal of the YT build for 'staying at range'. Here is my build which includes the PBAoE/melee goodies. I also did not include Hasten, so if relying on fewer attacks, it is probably a good idea to put it into the build. I don't recommend adding Hasten at level 4, unless the build is only going to be played at high levels.

My opinion: "Hover Blasting", as a purely defensive strategy, is generally not worth pursuing... it is from an earlier era of the game. It is pretty easy to get +6% Defenses early and with P2W and DFB boosts nobody should really need to plan to 'hover blast' (as a defensive trick). There are times I will have a blaster 'hovering' to get a better view of the battlefield, and there are times when facing certain AVs that it will be smarter for some ATs to stay out of the range of their melee attacks, but generally most maps don't really favor this tactic. I do prefer Flying (via Flight, Mystic Flight or Temps) as a travel power, and I will often simply just use the higher-speed flying power (usually taken before level 10) to zip around maps. I usually only take Hover if (a) I have taken the Flying pool (b) sometime in the 40's as a mule. It is rare that I take Combat Jumping, but I won't deny I think it is a pretty good power choice in terms of both utility and slotting potential. I also like jumping around the zones... but I feel like the Leaping pool is somewhat vanilla compared to other power pools which include travel powers.

I have not played Archery/Arrow on any AT, but I have played a variety of Water Blast characters. Water Blast is IMO an exceptional AoE set... on Blasters I absolutely would pair it with a secondary that offers a strong ST melee option. I'll describe what I did later... My opinion on Water Blast primary powers: T1 Aqua Bolt / T2 Hydro Blast: either is fine, I chose only to take the T2. Basic Blaster choices to 6-slot an ATO. T3 Water Burst: I put the 6-piece Annihilation set in this. T4 Whirlpool: Not a %damage power, this is a debuff/DoT power that is a good choice for set bonuses. I used Winter's Frozen Blast here. T5 Tidal Forces: Delay, but don't skip. I find this to be inferior to the secondary sets' "Build Ups", so I usually work this into the build later if I have another option. It works best IMO when the build has a smoother attack chain that comes with slotting. T6 Dehydrate: This is a single-target attack with utility IMO. I usually split this 3xTouch of Nictus and 3xGladiator's Javelin, with two %damage pieces. T7 Water Jet: I always skip this. There was a recent Homecoming fix which addressed my biggest concern with the power (consuming Tidal Power on a Miss!), but I still find it to be a very unreliable source of damage. There are other opinions, I am simply stating mine. T8 Steam Spray: Classic AoE cone. I also have this 6-slotted with the Annihilation set. T9 Geyser: The Nuke. Very strong, good extras. I use the Annihilation set multiple times: I like the bonuses, I like the possibility of applying -Resistance in AoEs to speed up clearing of larger spawns (with fewer button clicks). Tidal Power takes some getting used to, I think it works even better if Water Jet is not part of the attack chain. kudos to those who love Water Jet and make it work, I found that trying to use it broke up my typical attack chain in unpredictable ways. Now, about the secondary: I picked Atomic Manipulation as my 'favorite' (so far) pairing because it offers two (combo) Melee attacks, several good utility powers, and two PBAoE. After opening up with the water AoEs, I can Combat Teleport up to the next round of targets and either single-target smash (finish off a hard target) or PBAoE (any surviving scrubs). I skipped the single-target "control" powers for MOAR OFFENSE, adding %damage to Radioactive Cloud. Tactical Arrow doesn't appear to offer as much in the way of similar types of offense. My impression is that you would probably want Water Jet for single-target on this pairing.

IMO: Personal Force Field is worth little more than as a mule for a Defense IO; this is because of the 5% chance enemies will always have to hit you. Also... you can't do much useful while it is toggled on. Force Mastery isn't a terrible choice of an epic Blaster pool for mule powers, although if taking it I would plan to toggle on Temp Invulnerability. If the goal is to be an "AoE Blaster" (*1) and stay only at range, you want the global IO pieces and set bonuses rather than grabbing every possible pool power with a toggle. I don't always use the Fighting Pool (--/Tough/Weave) because I don't like burning a power pick on a melee attack I an unlikely to slot or use, but mileage varies. The one choice I almost always make is to 6-slot the Reactive Defenses set in some defensive toggle (and occasionally a click; e.g. Link Minds / Mind Link) because (a) Scaling Damage Resistance is a great global piece and (b) the 5 and 6-slot set bonuses a great for button mashing. (*1) I haven't found too many DPS characters that actually work best at only range. Sometimes this is because of available power choices, sometimes it is because of critter AI. Of the Blaster primaries I've played, I would say a cone-oriented Dark/--- Blaster may be what you want. Much of the set is DoT, but the reduction in enemy ToHit will be sort of like boosting your Defenses. The Dark nuke is a PBAoE of course.

Blasters have a Melee Damage Scale of 1.000 and a ranged Damage Scale of 1.125. I would not be so quick to try for 4x %damage, even with Hami-Os to cover Accuracy and Damage. I can almost see the thinking behind this approach (if somehow the Blaster is at/near the damage cap) ... but I am almost always looking at some set bonus that could be gained in the attack powers... for example the Very Rares which often boost global Accuracy and Recharge (each is important for %damage). I'm not an advocate of the FF +Recharge pieces. When I was investigating their use to help long-recharge time powers I turned on the power timers and monitored the recharge times with and without the %+Recharge proc slotted (unslotters are cheap). I won't argue against their use in theory, but I do encourage some in-game monitoring to verify they are paying off as expected.

This play style is where I landed, both for solo and team play. Once the character had strong survivability AND had good recharge for the (smallish) AoE, I found that diving into spawns (and dragging survivors to other spawn) to be a more optimal method of play than just shooting at range.

My First Sentinel (Beam Rifle/Energy Aura) hit 50, here is my first pass at a level 50 respec: This was NOT the ordering of powers (or slotting choices) while leveling... beyond Superiors/VRs... as there were some globals I wanted earlier in the build. Energize is on auto-fire. One thing I did here that I generally don't recommend was going heavy with %damage in Overcharge (the AoE nuke), but I was motivated by: Cutting Beam felt like an inferior %damage power (mostly due to the small number of potential targets), and I wanted to mix up different damage types over as many targets as possible. See also Refractor Beam choices. I'm somewhat uncertain about the Endurance consumption (and recovery) profile. Because of mission rewards, this character has some Endurance/Recovery boosts... but I found myself rarely needing to use Power Drain, such that I delayed picking it and pulled a slot from it. I added that slot to Power Armor to boost HP. I may pull the D-Sync and replace it with a boosted EndMod piece. (Non-scaling) Resistances are generally around 30%, with Psi the lowest at 21%. I could boost Toxic/Psi with the last Ragnarok piece, but I felt boosting the HP in Power Armor was a smarter choice. When I have all the toggles (up to level 35) running, the "standing still" typed Defenses are something like: Smashing/Lethal: 40% Fire/Cold: 42% Energy: 47.6% Negative: 38.7% Psi: 22% Toxic: 17.5% (the only type lower than each positional) I was surprised at how well the T9 Overload works. I found myself using it in circumstances when I got into hairy situations but that I could extract myself from (via pew-pew) within the 3 minute active time. With only the global Recharge (around 110%) it has a somewhat reasonable downtime. I only delayed it because I felt the other powers offered more general utility.

Generally I go in three phases: Zero phase (before I have anything like an attack chain that doesn't rely on P2W powers) I slot the 'freebie' %damage pieces Initial Phase I slot Accuracy, then Endurance in attacks I slot Endurance in toggles I don't add slots to Defense or Resists I generally just slot with drops, because 'Beginner's Luck' Coming into shape phase (around level 10, certainly by level 16) I slot (an attuned) PVP Panacea %+HP/%+End ASAP into Health If the character has a power that takes Resists I will slot (attuned) globals PVP Gladiator's Armor and/or Steadfast Protection for more Defense (I will add a second slot) If the character has a toggle or auto that takes Defense I will slot (attuned) Kismet +ToHit If the character has any power that will take Defense, I will slot (attuned) PVP Shield Wall At this point, I usually try to three-slot a power that will take ATOs. I am merit-rich and ATOs are generally a good investment so I just use the merit vendors. If I have a travel power, I almost always slot an (attuned) piece of the Blessing of the Zephyr set (depending on what I need either Endurance Reduction or KB protection) Turn on the gas...After level 20 (level 17 for some attuned) Since I want crafting badges for 25/30 (MOAR salvage slots) I will craft these IO recipes and slot IOs for Running, Jumping, Endurance, Recharge. QoL choices: This is the point when many (attuned) sets become viable. The ur-example is Performance Shifter for Stamina, Gaussian's %Build Up, Miracle +Recovery, etc. I will usually try to 6-slot one of the ATO sets. Often I have the other ATO set split between two other powers. I will replace the %freebies with attuned %damage (or ATO pieces) By Level 50, my priorities are: Accuracy in attacks (some Global accuracy can come from set bonuses) Endurance reduction (to support button mashing)... some sets offer +MaxEnd, Global Endurance Discounts, +Recovery Global Recharge (although I don't often take Hasten) Defense over Resistance It is rare for me that I will prioritize slotting for secondary effects when: The secondary effect is so short as to not be noticeable The secondary effect is "all there is" The secondary effect is single-target and requires a ToHit Occassionally I will take a T1/T2 power and try to turn it into a %damage "attack" (many damaging/slow single-targets are good for this) but if it is a single-target mezz/debuff I usually just have it slotted for accuracy while leveling and then switch to a HamiO Acc/Mezz (they are cheap) or a boosted 50+5 piece (even cheaper). When it comes to some slots: In the final build I will almost always pick a Quality-of-Life slotting choice that scales across levels than trying to eek out MOAR (whatever). Sometimes a little more recharge/defense/resistance just isn't adding as much as more travel speed (for example).

I agree with @Uun thinking. I found Primal Forces to be a good Epic choice for my Mind/Poison Controller, specifically to add more 'I do damage options and knock enemies around' to the build. For this character, Power Boost wasn't important (It would help some things, but not so much as I would notice). I could have added to the build, but it would only have the single default slot. My picks were: Level 35: Power Blast (A) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50+5 (*) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50 (*) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50+5 (*) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage (Toxic): Level 50 Level 38: Temp Invulnerability (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30 Level 41: Energy Torrent (A) HamiO:Centriole Exposure (Damage/Range)Level 53 (*) D-Sync: Guidance (Accuracy/Range) Level 53 (*) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage (Energy): Level 50 (*) Bombardment - Chance of Damage (Fire): Level 50 (*) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage (Lethal): Level 50 (*) Explosive Strike - Chance for Damage (Smashing): Level 20 For this character, I didn't invest many slots in several early power picks in order to have them for use as shown. I mention this only because I'm 50/50 on each character on going thick or thin on Epic/patron slotting. With these extra attacks (plus what I was doing with the primary/secondary AoEs and debuffs) I found that I could clear +0x8 maps in a reasonable amount of time.

Neither the T1 nor T2 is a 100% chance to (try to) spread. IIRC each is under 50%. The accuracy on the pet that does the spreading is 1.8 IIRC, so it also has to make a ToHit roll after both the T1/T2 attack (ceiling 95%) and the chance to spawn. What I typically observe at range (with a standard x1 spawn) is that targeting one spawn with Disintegration will typically start that spawn moving (away from nearby allies). By the time Lancer Shot actually goes off, the spawn is often more than 15' away from any allies... and then the hyper-speed Stun takes over, which makes the placement of that (now Stunned critter) completely unpredictable... the smallish Sentinel AoEs do not help here. These powers all have non-zero cast times. I don't think we should count on the T9 attack being up for every spawn when considering set balance. This is less noticeable if I change the spawn size (after the late-30s I was typically running the Sentinel at +0x3) OR the critters in a spawn stay at range. The latter should be obvious (spawn normally doesn't move, so it stays put... modulo Stun behavior) and with larger spawn sizes I simply worried less about opening with a Disintegration unless there was some sort of target I wanted 'softened up'. Larger spawns typically have more pockets of closely grouped enemies; the standard +0x1 3-critter spawn almost always has two critters within 15' of each other and the 3rd standing apart. It was this standard spawn size where I was noticing the clunkiness of Beam Rifle's Disintegration (compared to Defender), because the Sentinel (a) has fewer attacks that could even spread try to spread Disintegration and (b) the AoE attacks basically end up being used against single-targets... at least for 'default' spawn sizes. The Disintegration effect is often (casually) mentioned as needing to be factored into 'DPS calculations' for the Beam Rifle set... but in the case of Sentinels it really feels like this barely moves the needle (without upping spawn sizes) because of the fewer available attacks to possibly spread Disintegration. I'm ok with Refractor Beam as is (i.e. NOT a chain) for a couple of reasons: AFAIK, chain powers work via (pseudo)pets. If so, the accuracy of the pet would end up being 'fixed'. This could result in unintended consequences. as a 'Standard' ranged AoE power, it has better %damage options than it would as a straightforward ranged attack... also I think %procs would only really work against the initial target. While the effect would look cooler, I think it would make choices for slotting the power a lot less interesting. This sort of change feels like it might break more than it fixes. I'd just update the power description!

I really don't remember the guy in question. I have three sorta-memories of Live PvP: My first HEAT in Bloody Bay.... I can't quite recall what level it was, but I took advantage of a respec to shuffle slots such that both the non-human forms had decent slotting. Just shifting to Dwarf form when things got brutal wasn't OP, but it was frustrating for opponents. Teleport Foe wasn't really a thing IIRC in Bloody Bay. I recall at least one time when someone tried to mess with me during a meteor run, but that was a basic 1v1 stalemate. I dueled in Warburg, and I remember getting missiles to launch, but no solid memories. We can assume I probably lost some characters to PVP and may have scored a couple. Similarly, I think my (must have been) Level 50 Invuln/Energy Tanker was doing some time in Recluse's Victory and got "jumped" by a Villain Team of 6?. They were trying the Teleport Foe trick... but I also had that power, plus a LOT of stun potential. No one was defeated from that long and brutal encounter, but 1vMany was something to see. I'll admit, I teleported myself away a couple of times! I want to say this was before Energy Melee changes, but the timeline is cloudy in my memory. I sort of remember Energy Melee stalkers being a thing before the changes... I simply felt good that my slow-to-defeat-critters Tanker was actually able to semi-frighten PVPers with Stun. I definitely had one 2-person team punk one of my characters is Siren's Call using Teleport Foe and Controls. From memory: that team did some camping in Siren's Call as I ended up dodging them many times when I was in that zone. I do remember chat jibber-jabber about shenanigans in PVP zones, and some of the forum brouhaha, but otherwise PVP wasn't my thing.

After derping my Sentinel around with large spawns... I grok this.

I did exactly this on my FF/Beam Defender; the attacks were part of the theme of the character! On the Sentinel... not so much.

One playstyle change I am experimenting with (I still don't have a level 50 build, but I have more Global recharge) is to open with this attack chain (especially against enemies resistant to Energy): Disintegrate -> Refractor Beam. After this, I usually have the coordinated attention of most of a spawn... which often means they are clustered (or I am in their faces) I can either followup with Lancer Shot against the original target or switch targets and adjust strategy on the fly. This feels somewhat sloppy, but it is slightly less frustrating then missing either Disintegrate or Lancer Shot, and even if the original target critter scampers away from any buddies that might be hit from the AoE, it feels less like a core strategy has been flummoxed. I was noodling over what else is different for Sentinels in Beam Rifle. I suppose what is foremost on my mind ATM is that the other sets get a T7 Snipe (that can spread Disintegration) whereas the Sentinels get the smallish AoE (that cannot spread).... I came to the Beam Rifle Sentinel partially because I liked how the Disintegration was spreading via the Defender's ST attacks.

It is getting there (via slotting and globals), but keep in mind one the single-shot attacks is Disintegrate (which doesn't "spread" Disintegration). Discounting that power, the other 7 Sentinel attacks are split 4-3 in favor of AoE (with no possible 'spread') while the other Beam Rifle ATs are split 4-3 in favor of single-target attacks. For all AT, two of them are the T1/T2 attacks... and I think we can all recognize that taking both T1/T2 attacks is generally a sub-optimal choice. The only 100% chance for spread is on Slow Snipes (which really shouldn't occur anyway, for reasons explained above) or Lancer Shot. Even fast Snipes have a better than 50% chance, and those aren't available for Sentinels. I'll add: I don't know that sets are supposed to be balanced around anything but IOs (for better or worse), so considerations of Global recharge bonuses should be set aside. I have been adjusting my Sentinel playstyle to open with Disintegrate -> Refractor Beam, just to get as many critter's attention as possible and then start thinking about (maybe) spreading Disintegration, should they cluster. With large enough spawn sizes, there is almost always a couple of targets still worth doing this.

The combos I have run (on Tankers) are: Invulnerability / Energy Melee: Originally from Live day 1, this was "stands in place, takes hits, hits back". I felt the power effects went together. It wasn't long before changes to both the primary and secondary made the original concept obsolete (although for a brief time, this was the one character I had that could laugh off PVP zone griefers... and Stun them for their trouble. I still miss the original Energy Melee, but I am ok with the current Homecoming version. Upon reflection, my immediate thoughts about this character is that I've still got him built for one-on-one, even though I now leverage %damage in Whirling Hands to clean away scrubs at a better pace. I feel like the simplicity of Energy Melee lets me monitor more of what is happening on teams (and combat attributes). This guy is pretty much the only one of the three I have that I don't care if he's got the attention of an entire room (with or without actually having aggro) or if he's standing toe-to-toe with an AV. Maybe I care if he's got an entire cave of Rularuu targeting him.... but that's what Dull Pain is for! Shield / Battle Axe: This was my spin on a "low fantasy fighter"... who jumps all over the place, tossing enemies hither-and-yon. Fully-kitted this feels like a scrapper. This is the only character for which I have used either Shield or Battle Axe... I do have a War Mace Scrapper but he feels clumsy to play, even with hefty Recharge. Dark / Electric: Originally I was going to make this a character that uses as many possible "BAMFing" attacks/options, and even though it does still have a couple of the ones I intended to use, I grew to love too many of the powers in both the Primary and Secondary to stick with my original plan. In particular, I like the AoE Lightning Clap (slotted with KB->KD) and only Stun pieces. This attack provides a little bit of PBAoE Control (on top of the Dark Toggles) on critters I may soon be BAMFing away from, and it the knockdown makes it easy to see which enemies are still alive... in case I shouldn't be BAMFing away. The AoE Stun lives up to the promise of what I always wanted from the original Energy Melee Stuns. I've played Bio, SR and WP defense sets on other characters which leaves: Electric, Fire, Ice, Rad and Stone to try. A have a slight bias against Fire and Rad (defenses) because of my perceptions from the original days of live: Fire as "easy mode" (versus Devouring Earth Swarms, among others); Rad jealously because by itself it seemed to do what I wanted to do with Inv/EM! I felt like Stone would end up a little bit too much like Invulnerability, but if I had a concept that I liked I'd give it a try. These all have been waiting for some concept.