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I take this to mean, I should twink or go home, but I don't think you mean that. I think you mean I asked the wrong question. That point isn't without merit. My response ADMITTED that there is ambiguity in the question itself. Hardest hitting means something different to someone with 1 billion influence than it does to someone who got to lvl 50 competently slotted. While I get your point about my question being "high end" my thought was still about the powerset itself, not the twinked out IO sets that are available that modify (exaggerate) some quirk of the math in the set out of all proportion. You see, if the slots are more significant than the powers, then the real question is "what crazy IOs do you need to hit ridiculously hard." Because the IOs, in the end, will play a greater multiplicative roll in the end than the set itself does. I didn't mean to cause offense, I didn't even think that was possible. But I see why my additional commentary afterwards could be poorly received. There is an argument for the IO building being more important than the powerset anyway. I can see a legitimate game design choice saying, "broadsword well slotted should be able to cripple DM less-well slotted"... after all the time and effort to learn the game and earn the influence to buy the IOs and develop one's toon is a significant investment. At the end of the day slotting is standard and the way to get the most out of the dps is pretty darn simple. The goal is to use your highest Damage per activation powers as many times as possible. There is one common theme recharge and endurance management. That is where IO's really take the it to the next level if you are going strictly SO's your best slotting is 2 acc 3 damage and 1 end (imo) if you do not hit more than you miss you are in trouble and attacks burn more endurance than people realize. Then the easiest attack chain with just SO's is probably Martial Arts because 2 attacks have the same DPA and are attacks you want to use so you have 4 attacks and need less recharge so if you are going strictly SO's I would see MA is the easiest way to get a really good attack chain without a lot of recharge and there are a lot of cheap IO's sets where you can IO all 4 attacks for under 20 Million or less (The biggest cost is the orange salvage why I say less because ae tickets are the cheapest way to get orange salvage) The 4 ST attacks for MA Storm Kick Cobra Strike Crane Kick Crippling Axe Kick MA is a nice set and a lot of high end scrapper have play it just because it is all around solid and fun to play

From a guy who had two level 50 Dark Armor scrappers dm/da and spines/da and one I started in i2 when armors did not stack. Also note Dark Armor has no knockback protection so your either need to take acrobatics or two KB protection IO's and yes you want Two. It can be endurance hog but not as bad as it was pre ED. DA is utility set but like everyone stated a lot more care and feeding vs the set and forget WillPower. This may or may not matter to you but WP also has a taunt aura and Dark Armor does not so with running spines harder to pull the bad guys in but ?DA does have COF or OG for the minions

That is incredible work and I applaud him doing it, but I can't think of anything more useless and it goes exactly to what I've always struggled with when it came to CoH's "tension" between casual and hard core players. Balancing always seems to be about what the twinked out power players with unlimited time and budget can possibly obtain. That's why things like Tar Patch are up less than half the time even ED-max slotted with SOs at lvl 50. There's no point in calling DM or Fire the winner if they are only a winner when all the power cycles pull the hardest hitting attack chain far outside the range of 98% of the player base. I don't blame the previous dev team or the current folks. In a sense this problem isn't solvable. I'm merely lobbying for things to be bent more towards that end of the base. I'm perfectly aware that doing that might mean that under just the right set of 1 billion IOs a Regen scrapper might again be immortal. I don't care, and like "farming" I really don't understand why anyone would care. Besides, think about it. If there really is some hero who has worked thousands of hours and honed their knowledge of the game to such an extent to become as powerful as Statesman, maybe it is OK that they are as powerful as Statesman. We are supposed to be their successors after all, right? Tension, sorry but this game unlike others has little tension between the high end user and the ones that just run SO's. Generally if you are coming to the forums you are looking for that type of information. Sorry I take offense to your post; I know this forum some of us go way back on the scrapper forums to the old days if you come and ask for general advice we give it if you ask high end questions we give it and if I come off like an arse so be it but every game there is always a subset that will maximize everything. The scrapper forum has always been a place for this type of discussion if you do not like it that is on you but do not us.

I did know that but in truth incarnates make everything broken

EA can do that as while as you see shield with a top IO build has the recharge the proof is in the results

Here we go the old rikiti pylon test yea lets see https://web.archive.org/web/20120906192335/http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=130754&page=14 I only include the 200 or above 289 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - _Mojo_ 283 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - BrokenPrey 276 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Iggy Kamakaze 267 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - Igor The Mad 262 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Machine Man X 262 Dual Blades/Electric Armor - Shadowsylph 259 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Norse 255 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - Besserwisser 249 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - SkylineGTR 247 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Enots 243 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Primal Dark 242 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - MrLiberty 241 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - Powerforge 241 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - DR EVIL NA 239 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Effy On Malibu 236 Broad Sword/Shield Defense - Chaos String 232 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - Hejtmane 228 Claws/Super Reflexes - Iggy Kamakaze 227 Fiery Melee/Shield Defense - doyler 223 Dual Blades/Super Reflexes - Shred Monkey 219 Katana/Super Reflexes - Laevateinn 210 Katana/Regeneration - Iggy Kamakaze 209 Dark Melee/Shield Defense - pyrite 208 Dark Melee/Super Reflexes - DR EVIL NA 205 Claws/Super Reflexes - Powerforge Dark or fire and shield for the win

Follow up just keep flying then you have enough recharge to do most everything more a nice to have but you would 3 slot it you did. I may need to look at it further in the future since I put it together fairly quickly so may need some fine tuning. Now on your two issues; I can explain both the reason your paboe misses is accuracy slotting you should have two yellows in the attack; Don't worry about the set I put in there the acc is fine but that is generally the issue most players under slot accuracy. In fact the kismet is a great one to get earlier giving you a 6% buff to accuracy is big in early game or side kicking down. The reason you agro when stealth is your taunt aura. The Entropic Aura taunts your opponents much like shields Against All Odds does.; so you use Energy Cloak for a slight defensive boost when needed or turn of your aura to stealth buy without agro giving you some flexibility.

You are way over slotted in all the wrong things, under slotted and even with all that you are skipping the best IO's you should be looking at now the one I an posting will take some work to gather. I removed Repulsing Torrent it is flat terrible for scrappers you want stuff close not being thrown away from you. If you drop fly and can live with Super Jump you could add hasten into the build. Overload is more or less useless since it drains all your endurance when it crashes. Better to softcap as much of your positional defense I even left you a slot to play with and put in the paboe attak over repulsing. Took energy cloak at 50 encase you want to stealth but you can take something else. I would look at something like this subject to tweaks http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1437&c=671&a=1342&f=HEX&dc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Thank You and to help out I still have an old excel spreadsheet from the scrapper form days and here is rads ST attack break down by dpa (damage per activation) this is raw numbers no IO's or any other buff may help you with your high end attack change planning if you start chasing AV's Contaminated 64.70 Rad Smash 70.16 siphon 64.60 dev blow 89.57

Been so long I think the cloud stays even when attacking and obscures everything still to some degree

Did not exist when the game closed down it was on the radar (it was hidden in the code/data base and activated by the original score team) so none of us old timers unless they where on the private server have any experience with rad on scrappers

Shield built out correctly is lit and if you IO it to the gills you can do some stupid stuff fun. I ran a Fire/sd toon and ran my solo missions on +4/x8 I soloed AV's on a regular bases. Now that we started over I made my shield into a dm/sd the reason/ The only reason I did not when shield intially came out was I already came already had two dm/ scrappers so i went fire. Siphon Life for the win

I had a DM/SR and a Katana/SR (perma-elude before ED and IO's) but after playing Shield and having a taunt aura on my scrapper I now get frustrated with non-taunt aura scrappers. I prefer EA over /sr because the time buff aura taunts. Yea /sr is probably the easiest and cheapest scrapper to build to solo and AV; I am so jealous of /sr brutes so want their taunt aura on scrapper

Ok not counting Incarnate stuff back in the day pre-incarnate we ran an all scrapper stf the person that ended up tanking recluse while we worked on the towers was a broadsword/shield they where softcapped and then added parry to stack probably want aid self if you go that route. The other option imo while rad is good I still think katana/wp is the other way to go stack DA and note Iggy soloed the itf with a katana/wp per-incarnate. Now the second scrapper you want dps and pre-incarnate if you look at the top dps build for st on the tower test the top slot was dm/sd I made the top 10 with fire/sd the nice part about dm/sd you have a heal built into your attack chain and with spring attack now you have an aoe to mix in with your st prowess . With DM you can leverage the repairman as fodder for soul drain buff along with shield charge /spring attack. Just my two cents from the past

Here's the issue better to have them in AE farms you want to know why portals only give xp when you destroy them and mobs coming from portals do not they nerfed it because of mission farming back in the old days. After that a lot of the higher missions with timers on it nerfed because we use to mission farm. If it is not AE it will be farming missions that give the best xp etc etc. Hell I use to solo farmed Posi back in the day to farm merits.

This is why optimizing the I24 code is so important to get it cheaper to play and host more people on a cheaper server foot print. Wish they had a way we could donate to to help add servers

Did it really fail I mean it had at peak 180k subs kept over 100k for a long time. It never lost money and it was more an NCSoft issue than anything else

Right around the corner from Ms Liberty

I rather Jack Emmert err I mean Statesman stay dead

Cheap is good for me I had farming the Positron task force down to an art I would use 3 other accounts log in start it log off then solo the entire thing log back the accounts in the end part get rewards.

Yes I was looking for the total real numbers and I found it if anyone wants it //window_show combatnumbers it was like I12 when they put in if I remember correctly been to long You can get stuff like this then

anyone remember the command to show all the real numbers in detial

That is why I use names from obscure history military leaders and things like that for a lot of my toon names over the years like my current handle I been using since DAOC days (but not my UO days) anyways it was a title bestowed on Jan Ziska he was Hussite general.

Started and Pinnacle in I2 and ended on Pinnacle