Force Redux

If I can help with questions, just poke me 🙂

Feel free to check out my guide at the top of this forum.

Beam/Devices love here

I'm gonna necro this Necro thread to chime in for... Dark Miasma!!! 😁😁😁💀💀

You aren't wrong, this is IMO one of the best combos for a Kinetics character, totally plays to Beasts' strengths. Just have good pet control and liberal use of GoTo command, those pets on SB are faaaaast!!

With the new changes to group, my MMs perform even better than ever, and it's no longer quite so much a niche travel power. Took my pets (Bots and Demons) out for a spin, none of them dropped from the air like season 8 Game of Thrones ratings, no matter how far I flew. Pretty fast, as well. Also, cleaning up the erroneous -Accuracy text is helpful. Haters take a back seat, me and my flying pets are on our way to a group near you! Anyone else happy with the changes? Anyone else considering taking group fly where before you would have just passed it on by? 🙂👍😁😎

Okay, a quick build that focuses on capping Energy/Neg Energy and Ranged Defense. Damage is low until you hit your epic pool and you can open up your extra damage powers. AoE is Good between Roots, Repulsion Bomb and Torrent (and improves more with Carrion Creepers). Single Target is 'meh' but that's typical IMO for all Controllers other than Gravity. Your heal is Spirit Tree. Its perma at 87 seconds recharge or better with Hasten up, so double trees about a third of the time. That's about 500% regen. Between that, solid S/L resists and great Defense, plus status protection, you should be good. I didn't slot out Carrion Creepers, way too many methods to get that done, with or without procs. Recharge is a strong focus, you want it up as much as possible. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Plant FF Controller: Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Plant Control Secondary Power Set: Force Field Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Entangle (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: Personal Force Field (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 2: Strangler (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (11) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (13) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (13) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (15) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold (15) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 4: Roots (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (17) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (17) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (19) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (19) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (21) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 6: Deflection Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 8: Seeds of Confusion (A) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Recharge (25) Malaise's Illusions - Endurance/Confused (27) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Endurance (37) Malaise's Illusions - Confused/Range (46) Malaise's Illusions - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge Level 10: Insulation Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 12: Spirit Tree (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (23) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge (25) Miracle - Heal/Recharge Level 14: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (27) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 16: Fly (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 18: Vines (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (29) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (29) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (31) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (31) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold Level 20: Dispersion Bubble (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (33) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (33) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (33) Red Fortune - Defense (34) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 22: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (34) Recharge Reduction IO Level 24: Super Speed (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 26: Carrion Creepers (A) Empty (34) Empty (36) Empty (36) Empty (36) Empty Level 28: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 30: Tactics (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge (50) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff Level 32: Fly Trap (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (43) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance (43) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 35: Power Blast (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (37) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (39) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (39) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (40) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Force Bubble (A) Endurance Reduction IO (39) Endurance Reduction IO Level 41: Temp Invulnerability (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (42) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance (42) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (42) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance Level 44: Energy Torrent (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (45) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (45) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (45) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (46) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 47: Repulsion Bomb (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (48) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (48) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (48) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (50) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 49: Power Boost (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1461;665;1330;HEX;| |78DA65944B6F125114C7EFC04C29AF02027D5128505ADAF256979A465B69624A42A| |2714B2630A5934C810026BAF42BB871E1DB0F60A2C6D7D2B5D19546177E05B55275| |E1064FE7FC5B486612E63773CEF99F7BEEB967A8DCD8F23CDDBEB52124FFA6A1F67| |AB5CD76ABDF6D1B86D6552A6A53AF0BBA8255436DF5E3E5727CE475907DECF55897| |37438FDF22630117AFEFEEE6CBED6E5DAB9575CD680877B54DF165436FEEF55DE6F| |3958EA6357CE6E38EA636B46E6F4FEF7839EC284A6F35E72F75F47ABEDAD5F755A3| |6666EBD52A6AAFAF756FCE5245CBF47B26095C4345DC27946431F1007CC89C7C043| |E66BA9E30CF8DB4428425D3F69C20219FF4C9264494E2BF323D5FC0CFCCA97F3653| |33B5CFDA17043BB476BB62DAFC32A8304F4D800E666892799EB40A6B2505B58442C| |C970407FB64C7806DB387CCF9DFCCD41F66EE2F7383E0443E27F24D23DF2B829B7D| |36F755F82AC8BB4D4CCBC2490B7A25D67BA19FFFC6FB7593CF87BEF92276D3F69A4| |202A831807E2DA07F0BE85B0C7D8BA16F174813E43594A08BD788B999710FE805A7| |98091F33493584B1BF7086CF33012E916F86F38A1927AFF586DEE750DFDC902E913| |0EF4B967B80D411EC3C829DA7FCCC20F9A258357A8F32076551BACB7C4B218B5861| |F180574D0F98EB87E02FF01D6BDE53F392989824A63785E95DC1F4AE607AD398DE3| |4A6774BE22FE0A896E50462C10F947795F7605F3DCD27B456008F5A43A7B036CD1C| |7884C8A0860CA6368BA9CD626AB398DA1CA63687A9DDA4147968F3D016A02D405B8| |0B6046D09DA8F544E115354C4C92DC8635FA4791AD19165B86EF1162D9692C572C6| |62396BB1EC582C55F9E47F4048A6C5E93FF9BA87DF5DE495C6BD3F47169B748DA74| |54E70C7E5CBFC4DFDB0A80EC65571EE81ED36CF88ED0EF33FD8E0FAFA| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

I can put one together this weekend, as I see no one has yet responded

Demons/Dark is my go-to 👍🏻🙂

@Jayhawk I'm very pleased to hear that you are really enjoying the build! If you make any tweaks or have future feedback post them here 🙂

Demons/Dark: control and debuff things into mewling kittens, heal when necessary, do evil laugh emotes!

Just going to add that my DP/Nin is one of e favorite characters. Style is solid and performance is reasonable.

Love this... Also, happy birthday @ToxinFox

Nothing to add, some great answers above 🙂👍🏻

One is my favorite sets....☺️

@HachiMan2015 hi Hachi, here's how I would build Beast/Dark. I like two attacks since it helps build up Pack Mentality faster. With Fortify Pack you have an extra 23% global defense with 5 stacks, which easily soft caps pets. I put the KD IO into Lionesses since Wolves have their own in their inherent attacks. Dire Wolf gets %BuildUp. Plenty of room to customize it. All six special Pet IOs and pets are close to or capped on their Attack/Damage, with extra EndRedux for Lionesses and Dire Wolf, since they like to chew their blue bar. Have fun! Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Beast Mastery Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Summon Wolves -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(7), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SvrRgh-PetResDam(9), EdcoftheM-PetDef(21), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(31) Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-Heal(A), TchoftheN-%Dam(9), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(11), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(11), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(13), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13) Level 2: Tar Patch -- PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), TmpRdn-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(15) Level 4: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(15), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(17) Level 6: Train Beasts -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(19), Ksm-ToHit+(19) Level 10: Howling Twilight -- PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), TmpRdn-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(21) Level 12: Summon Lions -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(23), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(25), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(25), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(27) Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(29), ImpArm-ResDam(29), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31) Level 18: Fortify Pack -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(36) Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(34), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(34), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), GlmoftheA-Dam%(46), CldSns-%Dam(50) Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36) Level 24: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(36) Level 26: Summon Dire Wolf -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(33), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(37), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(37), SlbAll-Build%(39) Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46) Level 30: Afterburner -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Tame Beasts -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(39), GldArm-3defTpProc(39) Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(40), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(40), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(40), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), CldSns-%Dam(42) Level 41: Call Hawk -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(43), Empty(43), Empty(43), Empty(45) Level 44: Petrifying Gaze -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(45), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(45), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(46) Level 47: Call Ravens -- Empty(A), Empty(48), Empty(48), Empty(48), Empty(50), Empty(50) Level 49: Oppressive Gloom -- Acc-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run 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Hi Hachi, my weekend proved a little busy, but your request is not forgotten. Bear with me a couple days.

I'll review and comment later this weekend 🙂

Hi! I'm glad you found the post useful 🙂! The attacks are good for building stacks of pack mentality, I recommend at least one of them. You can fit in all six unique IOs into the three pet summoning powers with creative slotting, but concentrate on the Defense ones first. I can try to post a build later this weekend if you like.

White it's not a competitive set, any MM set is playable through all content. One of my first CoV characters (Crimson Commando, an Arachnos special forces) was a Mercs/Traps, long before IOs. I took it to 50 and had a good time. If you enjoy it, play it. People swear by Fire/Kin Controllers so I tried it again, got to Incarnate Alpha, and let it go. I just didn't click with the sets. What you enjoy is what you will play. Not always what is the meta. Try it, see for yourself. Coyote's suggestion for traps is my pick too.

This in a nutshell.

This. Gets to be a habit after a while.

Not gonna lie, even now this brings a tear to my eyes...

I'd recommend Mu Mastery as well: Both +Def IOs slotted. Maneuvers Hover/Cbt Jumping Stealth Farsight Go for Ranged Defense IO set bonuses. Things in melee get debuffed from Time's Juncture so don't have to cap Melee.. Capped Ranged, + solid resists vs most common damage (S/L/E) + heals + regen + debuffs (ToHit, slows) + Ember Demon aura = one tough cookie. If you have the room you could go Fighting Pool but I think that's overkill for most builds.

Very nice. And agreed, always great to see builds visually.