Apparition Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 So, what would Shazam! be? Elec/Elec Brute, SS/Elec Brute, Elec/Elec Corruptor?
Omega Force Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 Not too familiar with Shazam's powers, the wizard never did much. Maybe an Elec/Storm/Mu Controller? Captain Marvel would be an Inv/SS Tanker. I've heard modern depictions increase the focus on electricity, to differentiate him from similar bricks. In that case, Elec/Elec Tanker would work as well. 1
Haijinx Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 Guess Captain Marvel could be Inv/SS/Mu for the electrical goodies. 1
Redlynne Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Omega Force said: Captain Marvel would be an Inv/SS Tanker. Actually, she's a FISS. Quote FISS (Flight, Invulnerability, Strength, Speed) is the most common meta powerset in the PS238 universe. The combination is common enough on Earth that FISSes are numbered. There is at least one in each of the top 50 super-teams. They make up 25% of the superhero population. FISSes are often discriminated against in the superhero business, and earn only 80% on average of what their coworkers do. As a result, the Infinite Vanguard was born, a superteam that seeks to better the lot of FISS supers by emphasizing capability over marketability. The organization was created using 84 as a figurehead, but is under the formal leadership of Forak, as the identity Zero. Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer.
JJDrakken Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 Shazam would be Flight, SS, Invuln, & Epic pool of Lightning. 1
Hyperstrike Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Redlynne said: Actually, she's a FISS. No, Captain Marvel. The original one. Now going by the name Shazam. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Hyperstrike Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 SHAZAM! Spoiler Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Captain Marvel - DC: Level 50 Technology TankerPrimary Power Set: InvulnerabilitySecondary Power Set: Super StrengthPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctArm-ResDam:40(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(3), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(3), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(5), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(7)Level 1: Jab -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg:50(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%:50(11)Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(15)Level 4: Haymaker -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg:50(19), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(21), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(21), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb:50(23)Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg:50(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg:50(25)Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam:40(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(25), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(27), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(27)Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%:50(A)Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31)Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam:40(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(31), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(33)Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(A)Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(33), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(33), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), Rct-ResDam%:50(34)Level 20: Knockout Blow -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(36), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(36), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(37)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(39)Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(39), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(42)Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(43)Level 32: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow:50(A)Level 35: Electrifying Fences -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg:50(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech:50(43), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End:50(45), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech:50(45), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(45)Level 38: Foot Stomp -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(46), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(48)Level 41: Mu Lightning -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(50), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(50), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(50)Level 44: Fly -- Flight-I:50(A)Level 47: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth:50(A)Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:50(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(17), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(17)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(19)Level 50: Agility Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1497;705;1410;HEX;| |78DA6594594F135114C7EFB483D805D92C050AA52D50BAC04091771341084813921| 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The Big Red Cheese. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Apparition Posted May 30, 2020 Author Posted May 30, 2020 Yeah. By Shazam, I mean the original Captain Marvel who was renamed to Shazam nine years ago.
oldskool Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 The original big red cheese was largely a Superman clone without the heat vision or frost breath. His ability of strength, durability, stamina, speed, and flight were basically the same. He also had superior intelligence and wisdom. The original Captain Marvel/Captain Thunder, did not hurl lightning bolts as the Mu epics would suggest. The newer version, post New-52, can as the new incarnation of the wizard Shazam. The original call to Zeus, through the shout of Shazam, had the lightning bolt directed at Billy/Captain Marvels current location. This was later changed by writers into an offensive maneuver where Billy could dodge the bolt and allow the mystic blast to hit someone else. Captain Marvel used this against Superman more than once.
Redlynne Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, oldskool said: His ability of strength, durability, stamina, speed, and flight were basically the same. So ... Flight, Invulnerability, Speed and Strength. In other words ... FISS. Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer.
Haijinx Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 There were Captain Marvels for DC and Marvel for a long time. Which was fine even without a rename. This thread isn't about the one that used to be Ms. Marvel. The old TV show was Shazam also. 1
Haijinx Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Redlynne said: So ... Flight, Invulnerability, Speed and Strength. In other words ... FISS. He is supposed to have all the powers of various Greek Gods The Strength of Heracles, the Speed of Hermes, The Wisdom of Athena Etc, Etc. But yes. So many Expies of Superman exist its become the most common super type. 1
Strawberry Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 SS/Elec Brute makes the most sense if you are trying to recreate the character and play him thematically in game throughout all levels, but I actually think SS/Invul/Mu brute is truer to the character. He generally saved his command over lightning for special moments in battle, and tended to rely most on his enhanced strength, defenses, and flight throughout the majority of his fights. 1 50 Kinetic Melee / Regen Scrapper 🐊 50 Pain Domination / Fire Defender 🍰
Zepp Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 The name has been Shazam since 1972 (when the character became part of DC), so chill it with the Captain Marvel chatter intent on sowing confusion. For powers, the question would be which storyline to follow. But SS/(Inv or Elec)/Mu brute is probably the best fit for the more common versions. Archetype Concept Compilation -- Powerset Concept Compilations: Assault Melee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Great Archetype Concept Battle: Final Round -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archetype Proposal Amalgamation
Hyperstrike Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Redlynne said: So ... Flight, Invulnerability, Speed and Strength. In other words ... FISS. Yes, but you used the word "she". The Big Red Cheese identifies as male and his preferred pronouns are he/him/his... 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Hyperstrike Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Zepp said: The name has been Shazam since 1972 (when the character became part of DC), so chill it with the Captain Marvel chatter intent on sowing confusion. For powers, the question would be which storyline to follow. But SS/(Inv or Elec)/Mu brute is probably the best fit for the more common versions. Uhm. Telling someone what to do on the internet... If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Omega Force Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Zepp said: The name has been Shazam since 1972 (when the character became part of DC) The book was called Shazam, but the character has been Captain Marvel since the beginning. D.C. trying to change that is not the first or last thing they've done that I ignore. For the M.C.U.'s Captain Marvel* I'd say Humanform Peacebringer. "FISS" plus photon blasts with everything. Teaming up with scrubs buffs her resistance; with powerhouses, her damage. *Clearly leaning toward her Binary power level. Warbird was good, but not "punch out space battleships" good. 1
tidge Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 9:07 AM, Apparition said: So, what would Shazam! be? Elec/Elec Brute, SS/Elec Brute, Elec/Elec Corruptor? Billy Batson, a.k.a Shazam a.k.a. Captain Marvel a.k.a The Big Red Cheese be like: /macro_image "CarnivalOfLight_IncandescentBurst" "S" "SHAZAM!!!$$e ultimatepower" 1
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