Let's talk about melee cones, because I suck at them

[Yomo Kimyata]

24 minutes ago, arcane said:

I just made my 15th tanker on Friday and it just so happens to be Dark Melee. And between having that 180 arc Shadow Maul, better radii, 6 damage procs in Touch of Fear and 5 in Shadow Maul, it’s not bad at AoE at all 😄

 

10 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Grrrrrrr

 

I heard a rumor that in the next patch they are going to expand the arc on Shadow Maul to 720 degrees.  

[KaizenSoze]

1 hour ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

 

 

I heard a rumor that in the next patch they are going to expand the arc on Shadow Maul to 720 degrees.  

Yes,  but only on tankers.

[Doomguide2005]

5 hours ago, KaizenSoze said:

Yes,  but only on tankers.

So everyone else is 540 degrees!

 

Even Blasters?

 

[UltraAlt]

On 5/7/2022 at 3:55 PM, Yomo Kimyata said:

Sweeping Cross in particular bothers me since it is a right hook so I always assume it's going to hit mobs on my right first and in fact frequently misses them since they are not within 25 degrees of center.

 

Is sweeping cross the one where you actually hit more targets if you target enemies that are behind the ones directly in front of you?

[Marshal_General]

All cones should be at least 90°.

[cranebump]

2 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

 

Is sweeping cross the one where you actually hit more targets if you target enemies that are behind the ones directly in front of you?

I..**think** so. Trying to recall. 

 

I know there's times when I have clicked a melee cone on a joust move, and somehow smacked a ton of baddies, whereas, other times, I walk up, target, shift, move, and I'm still somehow hitting just one.

 

Unrelated, but can we make Flurry a cone? It'd be nice to apply that minor (and not always successful) Disorient to more than one foe. 

[cranebump]

I have one toon where I just went, screw it, and have Shadow Maul, Sands of Mu, and Flurry. I cannot recall if he also has Cross Punch, but if not...someone's getting a Respec. 🙂

[Uun]

I have more difficulty with the radius than the arc. I can handle a narrow arc, but I much prefer the melee cones with an 8-10 foot radius than those with a 7 foot radius. 

[tidge]

On 5/8/2022 at 11:23 AM, Yomo Kimyata said:

I heard a rumor that in the next patch they are going to expand the arc on Shadow Maul to 720 degrees.  

 

Why.... that's like 4π!

 

[Shred Monkey]

I naturally start stepping back just a 1/2 step or so inbetween being rooted in activation... badguys tend to follow you, and things behind you end up moving around in front of you, so they end up in the cone, or closer to it.  I may also step sideways a bit, or not depending on the situation.  But I don't waste time lining things up.  Any adjustment is secondary to keeping damage output going.

[Troo]

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Any melee cone with less than 90 degrees arc, I assume that most of the times I use it, it will hit only a single target. And thus I treat that power as a single-target attack when deciding whether its DPA is high enough to be worth using in my attack chain. 

I don't use any special techniques to maximize the number of targets for the narrow-cone attacks. As I only expect to hit one target, anything more than that is gravy.

 

Attacks with cones of 90 degrees or wider, I assume 2-3 targets per attack when deciding whether its DPA is high enough to be worth using. 

For these cones I target the second-closest opponent, hoping to get the closer opponent within the cone that way. But as others have said, repositioning is only worth it if it can be done within a very short time, otherwise the setting-up time is basically a prolonged activation time.