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4 hours ago, Bionic_Flea said:

Looks good, EXCEPT, you choose no inspirations but forgot no temps on both runs.  It didn't seem like you used any, except its hard to tell with changeling and you have one grey icon on your power bar that I'm not sure what it is.

 

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I'll manually review for you.

Edit: Runs checkout, grey icon in question is Kheldian's Grace, it applies a buff on you the same way Scrapper's Strikes does.
 

 

4 hours ago, Laucianna said:


That might be a better picture to show in the rules as I didn't see that other bit XD But yeah no temps were used but if you want me to re-record I can do that ❤️


A good point, ill update both posts tonight to highlight the necessary areas.

Edit: Updated

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@Koopak

 

Run Type: RWZ Pylon

Division: 1
Archetype: Peacebringer
Primary Powerset: Luminous Blast
Secondary Powerset: Luminous Aura
Time in seconds: 23s

Burst: Burst
Hybrid: Assault Doublehit
Build is usable for General Purpose: Nope.
Number of Runs Averaged Together: First attempt.
Version: 1.0
Video Link: Don't have one. But see below for pic evidence.
Notes: Temps used:
-P2W Offense Amplifier, Survival Amplifier, Defense Amplifier

-Lord Recluse Signature Summon

-Red Wisp Prestige Pet
Build: Attached to the bottom of the post. Here's the mids:
 

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And here's the picture proof:

 

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12 hours ago, Bionic_Flea said:

I challenge any and all not just to run a no temps, no inspiration pylon, but to either add to the bounty or set your own bounty with your rules!

 

I especially challenge:

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Same build as above, but with no temps/insps turned on. 

Time = 47s.

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Posted (edited)

I think that time AA posted is fake, would love to see a video.

 

First run, no fotg, doesn't play pb to my knowledge, very low global recharge and no ffb. Even with geas and recluse I'm not seeing it.

 

We know the upper limits of changeling, and someone who doesn't play kheld running a bad build breaking the record (24s) on the first try, even with cheese, is extremely sus.

 

Who's to say you didn't beta blast the pylon when you got the time you wanted? I could do that right now and nobody could definitively prove that I did it.

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10 hours ago, Americas Angel said:

@Koopak

 

Run Type: RWZ Pylon

Division: 1
Archetype: Peacebringer
Primary Powerset: Luminous Blast
Secondary Powerset: Luminous Aura
Time in seconds: 23s

Burst: Burst
Hybrid: Assault Doublehit
Build is usable for General Purpose: Nope.
Number of Runs Averaged Together: First attempt.
Version: 1.0
Video Link: Don't have one. But see below for pic evidence.
Notes: Temps used:
-P2W Offense Amplifier, Survival Amplifier, Defense Amplifier

-Lord Recluse Signature Summon

-Red Wisp Prestige Pet
Build: Attached to the bottom of the post. Here's the mids:
 

image.thumb.png.edd62f9da404e3e09fd07661346f6226.png

 

And here's the picture proof:

 

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Same build as above, but with no temps/insps turned on. 

Time = 47s.

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I don't suppose you'd be interested in uploading a video of how you got that first time?  I would prefer to see footage of how you play rather than just that picture...

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5 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

Your honor, I'd like to submit Exhibit A: Statement from the Defendant indicating their motive to cheese. 

This entire thread is cheese, that's just outright cheating, lol.

 

Video is king for this reason.

 

Anyway brb, gotta submit my first try petless ninja/empathy getting a 5s pylon kill.

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10 hours ago, Koopak said:

It getting spicy in here, AA takes the lead.

If no video is allowed then brb with 5 second pylon time 

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I've never actually managed to knock down a pylon solo.  Nor have I ever been able to take down an archvillain solo.  I do have several characters that can solo +4/8 content pretty reliably without dying most of the time.

 

I totally get the feeling of accomplishment one would get by successfully doing the first two things (this is the sole reason that I've attempted it myself.  Can I do it?  Let's find out!  The answer is no.  Ha, ha).  But I do wonder, once you have a character that has achieved that level of power, is there even any point to running +4/8 content any more?  I guess you just move up to doing all 5 star stuff at that point, and then that's the new benchmark, and the old content just becomes boring?

 

But skill-wise, I consider myself a mid-tier player, at best (and that is merely with regard to PVE content, as I don't PVP on any games that I play), so there are probably elements I'm missing here.

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Look at some of the builds with the fastest times killing pylons.  They are built solely for that purpose all based on +damage, procs, -res, and recharge.  Zero defense and resistance.

 

So don't worry about it.  Your +4/*8 character is surviving AND killing.

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2 hours ago, ScarySai said:

I think that time AA posted is fake, would love to see a video.

I suppose it's true that she could have started with a tester power.  But look at the times in chat and timers on the power trays.  Forty or Forty five seconds on hasten, which matches clicking that first and then taking 23 or 47 seconds to kill.

 

On her 47 seconds on Flea Cup is close to Luacianna's 50 seconds.  Laucianna just runs her regular build, which doesn't have enflame or unrelenting and does slot for survival and sustain.

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2 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

I suppose it's true that she could have started with a tester power.  But look at the times in chat and timers on the power trays.  Forty or Forty five seconds on hasten, which matches clicking that first and then taking 23 or 47 seconds to kill.

 

On her 47 seconds on Flea Cup is close to Luacianna's 50 seconds.  Laucianna just runs her regular build, which doesn't have enflame or unrelenting and does slot for survival and sustain.

     It's honestly cute that you're so trusting, but there's about a hundred other ways to cheat a Pylon time when the only proof required is that picture at the end if video evidence isn't part of it, including any level of assistance from another character up-to-and-including something else doing the Pylon test and you just standing close enough: then them leaving the FoV and you claiming the time as your own with that chat tab that only shows Broadcast chat.  There's not even a screenshot of the combat log (combat tab should be open during the video, and this should be the minimum standard for proof).  Nobody had blatantly tried to cheat yet so it wasn't brought up: and most of the previous winners all posted a full video.

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10 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

I suppose it's true that she could have started with a tester power.  But look at the times in chat and timers on the power trays.  Forty or Forty five seconds on hasten, which matches clicking that first and then taking 23 or 47 seconds to kill.

 

On her 47 seconds on Flea Cup is close to Luacianna's 50 seconds.  Laucianna just runs her regular build, which doesn't have enflame or unrelenting and does slot for survival and sustain.


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4 minutes ago, Laucianna said:

Can that be the official name @Koopak? The "Flea Cup" XD

 

You get a tiny dollhouse tea cup with your name on it, but you can't see the letters.

 

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41 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

On her 47 seconds on Flea Cup is close to Luacianna's 50 seconds.  Laucianna just runs her regular build, which doesn't have enflame or unrelenting and does slot for survival and sustain.

 

Even that is sus with all things in consideration, but with all the procs, geas and unrelenting? I could at least buy that.

 

Tons of red flags with the other time. Her saying it was her first attempt being one of the biggest, lol.

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6 minutes ago, ScarySai said:

 

Even that is sus with all things in consideration, but with all the procs, geas and unrelenting? I could at least buy that.

 

Tons of red flags with the other time. Her saying it was her first attempt being one of the biggest, lol.


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Oh okay, so if I post a screenshot of my time and it's a minute slower than anyone else's, I'm okay. But if I post a screenshot and it's faster than anyone else's time, it's not good enough? How do I record a video on my screen? I want to keep a record of my run. What is the standard?

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wonder if i can beat angels time.. not surprising someone who can fightclub ripped the best time yet on first try tbh.. angel's been pylon testing builds every day for 4 years

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9 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

Oh okay, so if I post a screenshot of my time and it's a minute slower than anyone else's, I'm okay.

 

Well . . . yeah.  No one is going to accuse you of cheating if you get a C-.  When you get A++ without showing your work, people get suspicious.  I am satisfied that AA's time is legit, but I can certainly understand the doubt on just a screenshot.

 

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Oh! and I found my Mids Build.  It's on an older version of Mids, so the link and chunk may not work, but I also posted the text breakdown here:

 

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45 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

Oh okay, so if I post a screenshot of my time and it's a minute slower than anyone else's, I'm okay. But if I post a screenshot and it's faster than anyone else's time, it's not good enough? How do I record a video on my screen? I want to keep a record of my run. What is the standard?

 

One is highly suspicious based on the context, the other isn't.

 

For your actual question, use whatever. OBS, shadowplay, and I guess fraps if you're a dinosaur.

 

@Bionic_Flea 

 

If I was going to cheat a pylon, I don't think I'd leave my big damage cds off cooldown to make it as obvious as humanly possible.

 

Then again, I wouldn't have said I did it first try on an archetype I don't play with a horrible build, either.

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Yeah… I did pylon testing back when it meant testing the S/T DPS *of your PvE build*. Zero interest in whatever nonsense is being done with builds like AA’s.

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